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StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 10:46:59
July 29 2010 06:44 GMT
#1
edit: 7 Aug 10

This is going to turn into a post about various projects that RTS-Sanctuary is working on that may interest the community so I'll be reformatting things over the next day or two. For now I will just copy and paste some things here.

StarCraft Statistics Launch

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RTS-Sanctuary is pleased to announce that our StarCraft Statistics service has been launched!

As everyone knows Blizzard quarantines our view of league statistics so that you can only see yourself against the 100 people in your Division. In phase 2 of the beta two sites made a start on providing an integrated view of stats across all the Divisions. Neither of these sites have updated their data yet so I have decided to launch my own Sanctuary StarCraft Statistics service. You can find the page by going to SC Stats here.

At the moment there is a simple searchable ladder that covers all divisions of the European, North American and South-East Asian Servers. You can refine your search by player name, server, league and race and results can be ordered by overall ranking, name. win ratio ot total games played.

There are only a couple of thousand names in the database so far as Blizzard made it harder to do automatic searches of the player information by including the player name in your statistics url. You will find an entry form on the statistics page that will allow you to add your details to the database (or anyone else's if you know them). Once added you will be automatically tracked as your rating changes and/or you move through the divisions.

So help us populate the database and go put your player url into the database!! You don't need to be logged into the site to view the dataor add your details so come on over and get your data registered.


StarCraft Statistics V2
Original Thread - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141777
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Keeping the friendly competition going between the 3 of us who are working on stats sites atm, I've just put version two of the Sanctuary StarCraft Statistics live onto the site. There are a bunch of changes including :
- separate sections for ladder, player and division stats viewing and searching
- additional options for filtering ladder searches such as specifying minimum or maximum thresholds for points, games played and win ratio

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- links from ladder listings to summary player profiles
- player profiles include details of all replays fetauring that player that have been posted to the site's replay system and links to information about the the division the player is in

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- listings of divisions by realm and league sortable by a range of player statistics calculated on your choice of the top ranked player, all players, the top 10 or the top 25 players in the division

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- summary statistics view with player listings for each division

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The best way to see the new features is to try it out.

In terms of player coverage the player counts that are displayed are only for players with a 1v1 profile. I am going through a process of vetting all links to new profiles that are gathered from url harvesting and have a backlong that seems to be sitting at around 120K players no matter how many I get through at the moment

Although I have the data I still haven't put direct links to battle.net profiles or character codes in the information displayed on the site. I'm interested in understanding whether people want to be able to be identified easily in game through sites like this before I put that data available. You an add character codes in when searching for someone but the character code isn't shown when you view a player's profile.


Population Profiles

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I've made another addition to the StarCraft Statistics Analysis options - Population Profiles. When you select this option you can choose a region (or all regions) and a league to analyse. Once the analysis is complete you will be presented with 3 charts:
- Race Profile: A breakdown of the races used by players at different point levels within the league.
- Population Profile: A breakdown of the number of players at different point levels within the league
- Cumulative Population Profile: The cumulative proportion of the population at or above the different point levels within the league.

Point bands are currently set at 50 point intervals within the league.

Examples of the charts are shown below:

Race Profile
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Population Profile
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Cumulative Population Profile
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Making Replay Posting Easier

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I've noticed that the people that visit TeamLiquid often like to do so without having to worry about registering or logging in to the site. Soon after I started visiting here I changed the access policies on RTS-Sanctuary to allow guest to access all areas of the site with the exception of posting in the forums or posting replays.

Over the last month or so I've seen that there is quite a demand for somewhere reasonable to be able to upload replays without the hassle of logging in. We've heard the message at RTS-Sanctuary and from today I have modified our replay system to allow you to upload replays in our General Replays forum without logging in.

When you upload a replay at the site it is automatically created as a topic in the General Replays forum.

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All the details are extracted from the file automatically and you just need to check the winner has been determined correctly and add any comment you'd like to go with the replay post. You'll also be asked to enter a name to associate with the post. The game will be displayed in a neat format and there will be a link from the name of each player to be able to view their 1v1 statistics as well as the league they were in and their points at the time the replay was posted.

In the post you will see detail of the link you can use to direct others to your game. We've set up a system that gets around the cumbersome url structure of the forums and your link will be something simple like http://rts-sanctuary.com/replay.php?186687 (which btw is a game of one of our posters against SelecT who was a top Dawn of War player).

After you've posted your game it will be accessible in the forum for people to discuss and it will also appear in the Replay Database

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This gives you access to all SC2 replays posted on the site and can be searched by on a range of conditions including player name, race, map, number of players, game mode, patch version, and league.

We aren't changing things to allow guests to make posts in the forums as that would be a moderation nightmare so you'll still need to register if you want to take part in forum discussions (as you have to here as well) but at least you will have somewhere convenient to post your replays and they will be easier to discuss than if they rae tucked away on a file share somewhere.

To post a game just go to the General Replays Forum and click the New replay button. It is a simple and painless process.

Hope you enjoy


Caster/VoD Database
Original thread - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133427
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Just wanted to put a call out to StarCraft II casters/commentators who might be interested in adding their details to the Caster Database at RTS-Sanctuary.com. The database is for people with live casts and/or video libraries and you can read about it in the thread at http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=SC2&showtopic=184562.

I know there have been a couple of different caster tracking systems posted about recently but most of those have tended to be stand-alone sites rather than being integrated with other community features like forums and replay posting (of course TL has the most comprehensive collection of casters and I'm not trying to compete with that .. I'd just like to have some information together for people when they are on the site). The system lets users add their own details directly into the database, creates a topic with an embedded viewer for their stream and/or VOD library, adds all their VODs into the library and monitors online status. Search functionality for the VOD library will be added soon.

So far I have set up the details for:
/v/craft
ArtosisTV
AskJoshy
bballguard
Big TV
BlizShouter
Brandon TV
Day9TV
DiggitySC
DrewN3O
Forsti
GLHF.it
GLHF.tv
Goatrope
Good2Game
Gretorp
Guilloteen
Hateplow
HDHomerJ
HDStarcraft
HuK
HuskyStarcraft
iCCup.TV
LS Gamers/NostalgiaTag
MakhStarcraft
N3O Gaming
Nevake
OMFG - eSports LIVE!
PainUser
Pigzy-F5
Polygon revue TV
PsyStarcraft
PullSC
SchickySC
SCLegacy
sc2noobschool
Shoutcraft
Shigarex
SirazTV
SpookyCaster
Starcraft: Legacy
Starcraft Pulse
TechnoBoyForce
The Elitists
TheSCChronicles
TL_Grobyc
TrumpSC
vegasraab
Vincere
Wolfcast
(list edited to reflect additions since posting)

If I've already set your stream up and you want to be able to edit the details you can register an account on the site and drop me a PM and I will transfer ownesrhip of the topic to you. If you want to add your own (or a favourite) stream just create an account and enter it into the database.

Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 06:47:38
July 29 2010 06:45 GMT
#2
45th and 143rd, woo. That's right, trial account.

Looks good.

Edit: I'd like to see some replays from that darkshrine character, he's in my league but haven't run into him yet, he's ranked #1 at the moment with a good w/l.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 06:50:46
July 29 2010 06:50 GMT
#3
That reminds me ... the other way you can add a player to the system is upload a replay they are in to our replay system in the Replay Forums ... they will be automatically added to the system and a link to their profile will be included in the replay posting.
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
leviathan20
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom193 Posts
July 29 2010 07:04 GMT
#4
Cool, thanks for doing this.

Yeah I noticed about the character name being added to the url, making brute force data mining of the leagues like was done in beta practically impossible :/

Hopefully a lot of people get on board and support this with submitting and replays so there is a good coverage
"We better get that boy a waffle NOW or he gon' DIE!"
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
July 29 2010 07:22 GMT
#5
Very very cool, and thanks, I can see im in the top 25 overall!
Coaching for 1v1 and Team games at Gosucoaching.com
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
July 29 2010 07:29 GMT
#6
This is great, thank you!
One question though: since names can be repeated in sc2, how will this affect the statistics? I know different profiles have different numbers, but how will it show on the website?
chieftan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States62 Posts
July 29 2010 07:30 GMT
#7
So I'm rank #13 overall on the US server? Something's not right, I'd be amazed if that's legit.
"my mental vagina gets soaked just to think about sending minerals to a computer ally. I'd truly do that all day if i was allowed to. just mine and send without getting a thx." - Comrade
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 29 2010 07:32 GMT
#8
... this is no where near complete yet
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 29 2010 07:44 GMT
#9
On July 29 2010 16:30 chieftan wrote:
So I'm rank #13 overall on the US server? Something's not right, I'd be amazed if that's legit.


the server stats are very 'thin' atm especially for the US .. it's basically impossible to farm the stats so we need people to enter themselves in to get the process rolling

also once you enter yourself yourwhole div and overall ratings won't be updated till the enxt update. I will add in an ability to sort by points as well so you can at least see where you are easily
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
chieftan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States62 Posts
July 29 2010 07:46 GMT
#10
On July 29 2010 16:44 StaR_Robo wrote:
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On July 29 2010 16:30 chieftan wrote:
So I'm rank #13 overall on the US server? Something's not right, I'd be amazed if that's legit.


the server stats are very 'thin' atm especially for the US .. it's basically impossible to farm the stats so we need people to enter themselves in to get the process rolling

also once you enter yourself yourwhole div and overall ratings won't be updated till the enxt update. I will add in an ability to sort by points as well so you can at least see where you are easily


Got it. Should've kept reading your first post. Will there ever be a way to see global rankings?
"my mental vagina gets soaked just to think about sending minerals to a computer ally. I'd truly do that all day if i was allowed to. just mine and send without getting a thx." - Comrade
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 29 2010 07:53 GMT
#11
well hopefully if we get the database populated you'll get a pretty good idea
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
July 29 2010 11:45 GMT
#12
Pity they made it so hard to automatically mine the information, still though good job Robo
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
July 29 2010 11:47 GMT
#13
Asia not working?
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 29 2010 11:56 GMT
#14
We have no asian players posted into the database yet but I have added suport for that server into the system now. I don't post many replays from there to have started off the link process but please feel free to post players from the Asian server into the system.

I think we had about 2.7K players in the database when I launched earlier and we now have about 15.7K so we are making progress !
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
asdd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
228 Posts
July 29 2010 12:05 GMT
#15
Nice work Robo. It says N/A when I look up my league rank and I've posted a replay. Is it because I'm to low ranked or will it rank everyone?
I
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 29 2010 12:15 GMT
#16
No I am doing ranks for every league on all the servers with whatever data I have. I assume you are talking about the playerprofile that you can look at from a replay post? I haven't updated that to pull information from the new player database yet - it's grabbing the data directly from battle.net so that's why it isn't showing the ranking. I only decided to go ahead and do the statistics this morning because it seemed the others hadn't done anything yet and I had most of what I needed from working on my replay system and a new tournament system.

There is also some delay between when you get added to the database and when you will be ranked because I only do a ranking when I run a full update of the divisions and I don't want to do that every time a player gets added. If you see yourself with a ranking of 0 in the ladder just sort by Points rather than rating and you'll get a feel for where you sit until the next ranking update is processed.
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
July 29 2010 12:24 GMT
#17
didn't we already have a site for this? sorry but I think once StarcraftRankings.com is updated no one will care about your site, that one was much simpler since it was the only purpose of the site
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 13:00:28
July 29 2010 12:59 GMT
#18
Thanks for being so positive Gorguts.

Yes there were two sites doing this back in the second phase of beta starcraftrankings.com and sc2.vacau.com. Neither of those sites have updated since the launch and I had been working on the stats side of things for other parts of my site so when I saw people asking if this sort of thing was going to be available again I decided to make what I had public. Because of the way Blizzard have changed the player stats url no site is going to be able to just brute force farm the data for the rankings the way we did it in phase 2 of the beta (I had a full data set back then but I didn't have the time to get it in shape to make public) so you aren't going to find a 'simpler' ay of building the database up.

As for whether people want to use something that is part of a site that has a comprehensive database of casters, a well-maintained replay system and forums for discussion rather than a series of stand-alone sites I guess only time will tell - I do know that we are up to 16000 players in the database now so some people must be finding it useful. By your logic every forum should shut down because we already have TL and every caster should stop because we already have Husky HD and day[9].
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 14:00:05
July 29 2010 13:59 GMT
#19
Innovative idea on how to get this to work. Now we gotta find a way to get people to submit their profile (sticky the thread?). You have 16k? Only about 1,7 million to go... O.O

At least we'll be able to follow how the important players (TL members ) are doing compared to each other.
I have a palm permanently stuck to my face yo.
ZergTurd
Profile Joined June 2010
83 Posts
July 29 2010 14:35 GMT
#20
good stuff, ty.
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