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StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 21:34:07
July 28 2010 21:18 GMT
#1
Thought people might like to know that Blizzard have their automated tournament application process up. After going through the process of applying to host a tournament for two weeks today I got an email saying

Please fill out our newly released Tournament Submission Form here: http://us.battle.net/en/tournament/

This will guide you through the licensing process, as long as you meet all of the requirements with that form you will receive an automated license to run your event(s).


For those who are interested the licence conditions to operate a Tournament are:

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BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT ONLINE TOURNAMENT AGREEMENT

Last Revised July 27th 2010

1. Grant of Tournament License.

With regards to your request to host a tournament on the Battle.net® service that features Blizzard’s StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ software (the “Game”), Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., a Delaware corporation (“Blizzard”), hereby grants, to you the a non-exclusive, royalty free, non-transferable, license and right to use and display the Game for an online tournament subject to Your adherence to the following terms and conditions:
* (a) The Tournament must be free to enter;
* (b) You may not charge any fees of any kind to watch the Tournament;
* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;
* (c) The Tournament must be limited to 500 players or less;
* (d) You shall not alter or modify any part of the Game for any reason;
* (e) You may hold the Tournament in any country other than the Republic of Korea;
* and (f) it must be a requirement for your tournament that all entrants in the Tournament must be adults in their country of residence, or minors over the age of 13 with written permission from their parents to participate in the Tournament.

You understand and agree that You will responsible for all aspects of the Tournament, including without limitation:
* (a) drafting of all rules, policies, and procedures which will govern the Tournament (the “Rules”);
* (b) ensuring that all entrants are fully informed of the Rules;
* (c) awarding all prizes to the winners of the Tournament;
* (d) securing the receipt all applicable government approvals, licenses and permits necessary to organize the Tournament and exercise any and all of the rights granted to You by Blizzard hereunder;
* and (e) avoiding any deceptive, misleading or unethical trade practices.

2. Use of Blizzard’s Trademarks.

Additionally, Blizzard hereby grants, and You hereby accept, a limited, royalty free, non-exclusive license to utilize the Blizzard’s trademarks, logos, and copyrighted content associated with the Game in advertisements, posters, flyers, and websites related to the Tournament, subject to Your adherence to Blizzard’s Trademark and Copyrighted Content Acceptable Use Guidelines, available at http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html. Note that you may not issue a press release using Blizzard’s name, trademarks or referencing the Game without Blizzard prior approval. Should you wish to have Blizzard review your proposed press release, you may email your request to pr@blizzard.com.

3. Ownership.

Blizzard Entertainment owns and shall retain all proprietary rights in the Game and the Blizzard Intellectual Property, and You agree that it will not at any time during or after this Agreement assert or claim any interest in or do anything that may adversely affect the validity or enforceability of Blizzard Entertainment’s rights in Game and/or the Blizzard Intellectual Property (including, without limitation, any act, or assistance to any act, which may infringe or lead to the infringement of any copyright in the Game). Blizzard Entertainment shall own all proprietary rights in all Marketing Materials that contain Blizzard Intellectual Property.

4. Representations, Warranties, and Indemnity.

You hereby represent and warrant that:
* (i) You have the full right and power to enter into this Agreement;
* (ii) You have the necessary rights to host the Tournament;
* and (iii) You will comply with all laws related to its performance hereunder.

You agree that you shall defend, indemnify and hold harmless Blizzard, and its affiliated companies (including, without limitation, Blizzard) and their respective employees, directors and officers from and against any and all expenses, judgments, awards, fines, and fees (including reasonable attorneys’ fees) solely with respect to any third party claims or actions brought against them which claims or actions arise out of the Tournament or any breach or alleged breach of any of Your representations, warranties or obligations hereunder. The obligations described in this section shall survive the termination or expiration of this Agreement.

5. Term.

This Agreement shall commence on the date that the license is sent to you at your email address and thereafter shall remain in effect (unless and until earlier terminated as set forth in this Section) for one (1) year (the “Term”). Blizzard may terminate this Agreement immediately in the event that You:
* (a) commit a material breach any of representation, warranty or obligation made by You hereunder;
* (b) make or attempt any unauthorized assignment for the benefit of creditors, file any petition for reorganization, readjustment or rearrangement of Your business or affairs under the laws of any jurisdiction relating to relief of debtors, bankruptcy or insolvency;
* (c) suffer a receiver or trustee to be appointed for its business or property, or (c) discontinue Your business, or be adjudicated bankrupt or insolvent.

In such an event, all rights granted under this Agreement to You shall immediately and automatically expire, and You shall cease all exercise of any rights granted under this Agreement, including without limitation the Tournaments and use of materials that use Blizzard’s trademarks or copyrighted content.

6. Miscellaneous.

All costs, stamp duties, taxes and other similar levies arising from or in connection with the conclusion of this Agreement shall be borne by You. Neither party shall be liable for any delay in the performance of its duties or responsibilities contained herein that result from any cause beyond its reasonable control or caused by acts of God, acts of civil or military authorities, fires, strikes, floods, epidemics, governmental rules or regulations, terrorism, war, riot, delays in transportation or shortages. Blizzard’s relationship with You during the term of this Agreement will be that of an independent contractor. Failure to enforce any rights hereunder shall not constitute a waiver of those rights in the future or any other rights. If any provisions of this Agreement are invalid under any applicable statute or rule of law, they are, to that extent, deemed omitted, and the balance of this Agreement will be enforceable in accordance with its terms. This Agreement may not be modified or changed except by an instrument in writing executed by both parties. In the event of litigation between the parties hereto, the prevailing party shall be entitled to recover reasonable attorney’s fees in addition to other relief as the court may award. This Agreement shall be construed and enforced in accordance with the law of the State of California, except for its conflict of laws provision, and all legal actions related to this Agreement shall be filed in Federal or State court in Los Angeles, California. This Agreement contains the entire understanding between the parties with respect to the subject of this Agreement supersedes all previous written or oral negotiations, commitments and undertakings related thereto. Sections 3, 4, and 6 shall survive any expiration or termination of this Agreement.


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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 28 2010 21:22 GMT
#2
* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;


What? Am I reading this right? You can't make sponsorship $ off hosting a tourney?
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Jantix
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
July 28 2010 21:22 GMT
#3

* (a) The Tournament must be free to enter;
* (b) You may not charge any fees of any kind to watch the Tournament;
* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;


While that doesn't affect many tournaments, it still sucks pretty badly.

Makes it very hard to get a serious tournament/league going.
Cider
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
July 28 2010 21:24 GMT
#4
That's really disappointing, but not surprising I guess. I wonder how hard they'll work to enforce it. I wonder why they're limiting the prize pools..
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 28 2010 21:24 GMT
#5
Damn that site. I glanced at the first page and thought it said tourney date on the first page. So I am now locked out for being to young. Sort of surprising the system didn't pick up I may have made a mistake when I put I was born in the future
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 21:33:45
July 28 2010 21:31 GMT
#6
Those are conditions for automated licenses, I'd imagine Blizzard will handle larger tournaments on a case-by-case basis.

Also I read the age requirement as "if an angry parent sues us we will point our fingers at you"
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
July 28 2010 21:32 GMT
#7
You agree that you shall defend, indemnify and hold harmless Blizzard, and its affiliated companies (including, without limitation, Blizzard) and their respective employees, directors and officers from and against any and all expenses, judgments, awards, fines, and fees (including reasonable attorneys’ fees) solely with respect to any third party claims or actions brought against them which claims or actions arise out of the Tournament or any breach or alleged breach of any of Your representations, warranties or obligations hereunder. The obligations described in this section shall survive the termination or expiration of this Agreement.


This means that if someone sues Blizzard for causes arising from your tournament you get to pay the legal bills, settlement (if any), fines imposed by the judge, etc...
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TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
July 28 2010 21:33 GMT
#8
On July 29 2010 06:22 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;


What? Am I reading this right? You can't make sponsorship $ off hosting a tourney?


You're limited to $5000 of total sponsorship money. Note that these terms are only applicable to online tournaments not "LANs".
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 28 2010 21:34 GMT
#9
On July 29 2010 06:31 Fields wrote:
Those are conditions for automated licenses, I'd imagine Blizzard will handle larger tournaments on a case-by-case basis.

Also I read the age requirement as "if an angry parent sues us we will point our fingers at you"

Exactly.
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 21:43:36
July 28 2010 21:36 GMT
#10
one of the conditions you have to fill out in the application is online vs lan and atm every tournament is online even if it is held at a lan because you have to play via battle.net

I read the age requirements as Blizzards flow-on of COPPA requirements

The confusing thing is that although I think I complied with everything in the conditions in the way I filled the form out at the end I got a response saying they would review the application and get back to me in 1 to 2 weeks

@diamond - clear your cookies from the site and you can do the age bit again

edit: actually the question is about whether or not it is an 'onsite' event which is where people come together to play but still using battle.net
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
Profile Joined June 2010
United States346 Posts
July 28 2010 21:37 GMT
#11
Do you have to do this for all and ANY tournament hosted? such as the ones here on the team liquid starcraft tournaments in the forums? also what if there is no money involved or sponsors just like one for fun?
chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France473 Posts
July 28 2010 22:07 GMT
#12
Why 500 and not 512 ? Do they need 12 byes in case they want to join ?
Also what about a brand organizing tourneys like Zotac or Gdata, is it considered sponsorship or advertisement ?
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 28 2010 22:11 GMT
#13
On July 29 2010 06:37 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
Do you have to do this for all and ANY tournament hosted? such as the ones here on the team liquid starcraft tournaments in the forums? also what if there is no money involved or sponsors just like one for fun?


I would think these conditions apply to many of the tournaments that have been listed here on TL (but not all). The TOU specify who needs approval to run a tournament

The clause in that licence about not modifying the game would put an end to the ideas that people had about altering in-game graphics to show sponsors as well unless u get specific approval
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 28 2010 22:13 GMT
#14
What does registering the tournament through Blizzard do? What's stopping people from just organizing their own private tournaments?
EppE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States221 Posts
July 28 2010 22:16 GMT
#15
On July 29 2010 07:13 Saracen wrote:
What does registering the tournament through Blizzard do? What's stopping people from just organizing their own private tournaments?


I would assume fear of lawsuits? Little tournaments wont have to worry but think about the HDH that brought in 30k ustream viewers last time.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 28 2010 22:17 GMT
#16
Just a question. Why can't you host a tourney in Korea? Is it because of the whole Blizzard v. KESPA thing?
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
July 28 2010 22:50 GMT
#17
* (e) You may hold the Tournament in any country other than the Republic of Korea;

now that sucks
Aiyeeeee
zeeQue
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
July 28 2010 22:59 GMT
#18
BAhahaha I laughed at these, just pathetic from Blizzard really, controlling everything the player base does, they wanna know where you are with their game.

Lets fly out to Korea and host a tourney up :D
MyLife
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
179 Posts
July 28 2010 22:59 GMT
#19
On July 29 2010 07:16 EppE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 07:13 Saracen wrote:
What does registering the tournament through Blizzard do? What's stopping people from just organizing their own private tournaments?


I would assume fear of lawsuits? Little tournaments wont have to worry but think about the HDH that brought in 30k ustream viewers last time.



The HDH didnt bring in 30k ustream viewers... lol Most i ever saw it hit was like 14k =/ dont exxagerate.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 28 2010 23:04 GMT
#20
On July 29 2010 07:16 EppE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 07:13 Saracen wrote:
What does registering the tournament through Blizzard do? What's stopping people from just organizing their own private tournaments?


I would assume fear of lawsuits? Little tournaments wont have to worry but think about the HDH that brought in 30k ustream viewers last time.

In other words, Blizzard is monopolizing the non-SK tournament scene?
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
July 28 2010 23:04 GMT
#21
On July 29 2010 06:24 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Damn that site. I glanced at the first page and thought it said tourney date on the first page. So I am now locked out for being to young. Sort of surprising the system didn't pick up I may have made a mistake when I put I was born in the future


LOL me too, clear cookies from an hour ago (if using FF)
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ExileStrife
Profile Joined February 2009
United States170 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 23:29:34
July 28 2010 23:23 GMT
#22
On July 29 2010 07:59 MyLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 07:16 EppE wrote:
On July 29 2010 07:13 Saracen wrote:
What does registering the tournament through Blizzard do? What's stopping people from just organizing their own private tournaments?


I would assume fear of lawsuits? Little tournaments wont have to worry but think about the HDH that brought in 30k ustream viewers last time.



The HDH didnt bring in 30k ustream viewers... lol Most i ever saw it hit was like 14k =/ dont exxagerate.


It did get up to 30k. It was pretty amazing. There was a blissful moment where all advertising sources (like reddit, SA, digg, 4chan, etc.) all converged and the stream got a ton of short-term traffic.

-- And that's 30k simultaneous viewers. Tons of these streams are hitting tons more unique viewers.
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
July 28 2010 23:29 GMT
#23
This is awful. The venue can't take a cut of the tournament? You can't have a pay to enter tournament, that is flat out stupid. I am very disappointed.

Doesn't Blizzard want these events to be run and generate hype?
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 28 2010 23:32 GMT
#24
On July 29 2010 08:29 SpicyCrab wrote:
This is awful. The venue can't take a cut of the tournament? You can't have a pay to enter tournament, that is flat out stupid. I am very disappointed.

Doesn't Blizzard want these events to be run and generate hype?


isnt this only for these automated tournaments.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
July 28 2010 23:32 GMT
#25
Doubtless you can't host a tourney in Korea because that goes through GOM/Gretech.

No paid entry? What about Jinro's sit-n-go idea.
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Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
July 28 2010 23:43 GMT
#26
Hopefully they work out other ways to do automated tournaments. This seems more suitable to small community competitions rather than serious high level tournaments.
What does it matter how I loose it?
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 23:51:20
July 28 2010 23:49 GMT
#27
On July 29 2010 08:32 oBlade wrote:
Doubtless you can't host a tourney in Korea because that goes through GOM/Gretech.

No paid entry? What about Jinro's sit-n-go idea.


This.
I think they should make it legal to organize a tournament with a 5$ pay in or something as prize.

Also.. 500 limit..lol

* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;

So.. what does the bold mean?
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
July 28 2010 23:51 GMT
#28
My interpretation is that you CAN break the rules. It's just that in that case it will be reviewed by a human instead of their automated system.
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 29 2010 01:39 GMT
#29
when you fill out the form there is a question about whether the total value of sponsorship is > $5,000 - this standard approval licence limits you to no more than $5,000 in value (cash or in-kind) of sponsorship/prizes for the tournament. I would hope that if you are puttig your own money in it as the tournament organiser it doesn't count as part of the sponsorship but they may argue it is the total prize pool irrespective of where it comes from
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StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 29 2010 01:41 GMT
#30
On July 29 2010 08:51 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
My interpretation is that you CAN break the rules. It's just that in that case it will be reviewed by a human instead of their automated system.


As part of the application you have to accept those terms although some of the options you fill out may indicate you breach them it's not clear what happens then - they would have to grant you a special license rather than that proforma one
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 29 2010 16:47 GMT
#31
I don't know, all these terms are completly stupid imo. Why should Blizz preventing the organizers form making money? They are helping promote thier product, why should they have to do all that work for free. It's not like organizing a tournament is easy or takes little time...

Now being TL is like the smartest collective community in the world, is this even enforcable? We have seen before that EULA's are not enforcable, and this seems to fall in the same category.

I mean I get the Korea part being GOM has exclusive rights but for the US this makes no sense.

Blizz has said they want to make this a global e-sport but seem to be using every chance they get to stifile the foriegn scene....
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 29 2010 16:50 GMT
#32
On July 29 2010 06:22 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;


What? Am I reading this right? You can't make sponsorship $ off hosting a tourney?


There are legal reasons for that. There are a shit ton of laws regarding contests and tournaments in the US (and I'm sure other places.)
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
July 29 2010 16:52 GMT
#33
Blizzard is trash, rate Starcraft 2 a '1' on Amazon

User was temp banned for this post.
EppE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States221 Posts
July 29 2010 16:54 GMT
#34
On July 30 2010 01:47 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
I don't know, all these terms are completly stupid imo. Why should Blizz preventing the organizers form making money? They are helping promote thier product, why should they have to do all that work for free. It's not like organizing a tournament is easy or takes little time...

Now being TL is like the smartest collective community in the world, is this even enforcable? We have seen before that EULA's are not enforcable, and this seems to fall in the same category.

I mean I get the Korea part being GOM has exclusive rights but for the US this makes no sense.

Blizz has said they want to make this a global e-sport but seem to be using every chance they get to stifile the foriegn scene....


If I were you I would just email Blizzard at this point. My take on it though is that they don't want people profiting off their game without their approval and perhaps paying them royalities.
Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
July 29 2010 17:33 GMT
#35

* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;


I'm a finance guy, this is so easy to bypass...

Check out my map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192306
CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
July 29 2010 17:46 GMT
#36
On July 30 2010 01:52 Xyik wrote:
Blizzard is trash, rate Starcraft 2 a '1' on Amazon

Heh, Blizzard is probably wishing they never made BW right about now.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
July 29 2010 17:56 GMT
#37
All these terms seem perfectly fine to me. Free to enter, Free to watch, No ads. Limited sponsorship money I'm not sure about, but seems alright to keep it from being too commercialized.

Most of the rest of it is fairly standard legal jargon that I've read 100 times before. They're are just reasonable things, like if someone sues because of something at your tournament, Blizzard is not responsible. I'm sure the 500 person limit is also just a Automated Online Tournament issue to keep from overloading anything.

There will likely be some revision to this in the future, and I'm sure Blizzard will have a special policy for larger case-by-case tournaments, and there is the supposed Pro package of SC2 for LAN style tournaments. Hopefully the tournament system gets fleshed out soon, but this agreement seems totally fine to me for now.
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BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 18:01:36
July 29 2010 17:57 GMT
#38
* (c) You may not accept advertising revenue of any kind in association with your hosting of the Tournament, nor can you accept funds or prizing from sponsors of the Tournament in excess of $5,000.00 USD in the aggregate for all Tournament sponsors;

I have a couple of questions about that. First of all, what's the difference between advertising and sponsors? Couldn't you just say that your advertising your sponsors?

Also, it says that you can't accept funds from sponsors in EXCESS of $5,000. So does that mean all the online tournaments like the HDH and KOTB are IN THE CLEAR??

Also did the HDH and KOTB have to get this license to host these tournaments, or did they just kind of break the rules by not getting one first?

Lastly, is EVERY tournament considered "online" since there are no LAN capabilities?

EDIT: One more question. Can you work around the "free to enter" clause? For example, I am hosting a "LAN" tournament where we are charging everyone $10 to enter to go towards a prize pool and food/drinks. Could we just say we are charging $10 for like rent of the space instead of actually entering the tournament? Similarly, if you were hosting a tournament online, could you charge $10 for "using the website" as opposed to for the tournament?
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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
July 29 2010 18:01 GMT
#39
Tbh the only thing that seems silly is the money cap on the tournament. But I think someone posted you are asked if the tournament will have more than that in prizes, not sure what they do if you happen to put that much money in it.

I'm sure there's 1000 holes in that like giving away hardware etc regardless.
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
July 29 2010 18:09 GMT
#40
I'm kinda dissapointed in the rules- why would sponsors pay if you can't advertise? Free to play... i guess thats ok... but not really. Free to watch- well until there start being PPV sc2 games...

I feel... sad.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 29 2010 18:14 GMT
#41
On July 30 2010 03:09 Zoltan wrote:
I'm kinda dissapointed in the rules- why would sponsors pay if you can't advertise? Free to play... i guess thats ok... but not really. Free to watch- well until there start being PPV sc2 games...

I feel... sad.


I feel you there.

They seem to say u can have sponsors but they can't pay you any moeny which is just outright stupid.

Free to play: I'm all for this. I'm 100% down on that note!

No PPV SC2: Good for now I guess. But this could stifle a premium oppurtunity with SC2. It would allow for more players to make a career of SC2.

Again is this really enforcable?
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RoboFerret
Profile Joined March 2010
United States70 Posts
July 29 2010 18:16 GMT
#42
I believe they're saying you can advertise your sponsrs, but you personally can't receive money for it.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
July 29 2010 18:41 GMT
#43
Though, if you actually go through the automated system it asks a lot of questions directly against what they is saying. Which gives me the impression that you are free to run a tournament under those regulations without Blizzards' need to intervene or talk with you at all about your tournament. Now say you had a $10 entrance fee for something like a Team Liquid ladder, you would have to go over all the aspects with Blizzard personally outside of their form.
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EppE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States221 Posts
July 29 2010 18:44 GMT
#44
On July 30 2010 03:41 DreamScaR wrote:
Though, if you actually go through the automated system it asks a lot of questions directly against what they is saying. Which gives me the impression that you are free to run a tournament under those regulations without Blizzards' need to intervene or talk with you at all about your tournament. Now say you had a $10 entrance fee for something like a Team Liquid ladder, you would have to go over all the aspects with Blizzard personally outside of their form.



Which doesn't really bother me. I think Blizzard is sort of doing a CYA right now.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
July 29 2010 18:52 GMT
#45
I asked them on their feedback forum what I posted above, so if I get a response I'll let everyone know.
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 29 2010 18:57 GMT
#46
Would love to see the reasons behind some of the rules. Anyway, going to read through them again so I understand'em completely.
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TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
September 17 2010 16:09 GMT
#47
sorry for re-open this thread, but i was looking this to make question about it.

to all the tournaments organizers running now or finished, i want to now if everyone send this form to blizzard and if you receive an accepted decision.

i want to make a tourney in the good way, and i want to now this part
if you forget the link to the form is http://us.battle.net/en/tournament/form

and about some question i read above, the clauses are automated as you have filled the form.
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
September 17 2010 21:43 GMT
#48
so noone knows about this?
: ( or plz give me the correct thread to talk about this
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
September 17 2010 21:47 GMT
#49
I'm 99% sure that KOTB and HDH both got permission to run their tournaments, I've heard HD mention it on his youtube channel before and also Day9 on his stream.
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