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ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 01:31:01
July 23 2010 10:19 GMT
#1
Download New Green Tea AI version here
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/green-tea-ai/

Download New SC2 AllInOne 10.1.1
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/starcrack-allin1/

Use with these official map phase 2
Maps

Install guide
_ Copy green tea AI to SCAI folder in SCALLInOne
_ In option tab, select custom ai setting
_ Choose Green Tea
_ Playing game


in Game Tab dont forget to Check the Use Custom AI before launche to actually use your selected AI or else Blizzard AI core will be used.
image

_ Expansion now working better. Normal will be 3 expansion, only expand at the 4 mines when the first one almost out of minerals.
_ It's a bit talkative.


Compatible with the difficulty setting of SC2AllInOne.

Very Easy: APM 300
Easy : APM 600
_ Reveal commander name
_ No Micro ( evade storm, hit & run )

* The very easy and easy ai will reveal the commander name at the beginning. So you can practice and build counter for each commander.

Medium: APM 900
Hard : No limit
_ Hide commander name

* These like the standard version of Green Tea, enough all feature, the Medium AI have reduce APM so it can be easier for longterm when there are many units.

Very Hard: Slow bonus harvest rate
Insane : Fast bonus harvest rate

* These are cheating resources like the Green Racer AI, the different is very hard AI have slower cheating race compare to Insane.

Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
July 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#2
Thanks ptanhkhoa for the hard work you put into this fantastic AI.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 23 2010 11:34 GMT
#3
Thanks. Probably going check this out
xal
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada22 Posts
July 23 2010 11:51 GMT
#4
Did we ever find out how to run Green Tea on macs without bootcamp?
what
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 12:21:28
July 23 2010 12:21 GMT
#5
Sorry for my ignorance, but why does SC2AllInOne requires you to shut down antivirus/firewalls and allow admin access for it? I may be too paranoid, but just want to be sure...

Also, does it really replicate a smss.exe process in the system?

Thanks.
No pain, no gain!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
July 23 2010 12:29 GMT
#6
900 apm? lol! awesome
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Konsume
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada466 Posts
July 23 2010 12:49 GMT
#7
I tried to install the new allinone...

and now when I open the game it says that I need to validate blah blah blah....
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
YuMSc2
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland104 Posts
July 23 2010 12:58 GMT
#8
Works perfectly for me! THanks so much!
I think therefore I am
alonestar_ak
Profile Joined June 2010
Afghanistan31 Posts
July 23 2010 13:00 GMT
#9
lol, when i began to attack, the AI say he knows what i am up to. But when i attacking his army , he very pissed and say he is angry. Guess what, i end up losing and he laugh on me. Very funny indeed. Damn, next time I will teach him a lesson.
VdH
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania78 Posts
July 23 2010 13:02 GMT
#10
I've never played against Green Tea AI before... Can anyone tell me what difficulty I should play against if I want to practice close to a platinum/low diamond level?
Konsume
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada466 Posts
July 23 2010 13:07 GMT
#11
On July 23 2010 22:02 VdH wrote:
I've never played against Green Tea AI before... Can anyone tell me what difficulty I should play against if I want to practice close to a platinum/low diamond level?


you should stick to SC2:Verry Hard. It's pretty much close to a 300ish diamond level
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 23 2010 13:08 GMT
#12
@ Konsume: You can read the install instruction in the SCAInOne, In the option, there are the " ... Lastest patch" button and "Restore ".
@VdH, to assume the real build, you should try out the Medium or Hard which is non-cheating, if you don't feel that hard enough, try another difficulty setting. Don't worry about the cheating version, it still keeps the standard build though and won't use the extra money at begining, only use when it actually losing lot of army.
_ Sometimes a medium AI can beat an Insane AI when it use the right composition of army.
VdH
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania78 Posts
July 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#13
thanks ptanhkhoa and Konsume!

The standard blizzard AI is just awful! They implemented good mechanics but the build orders are pretty lame, so you can't practice against it at all... Guess I'll go Green Tea Hard or Very Hard just to exercise some builds.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 13:59:56
July 23 2010 13:17 GMT
#14
On July 23 2010 19:19 ptanhkhoa wrote:
Download New Green Tea AI version here
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/green-tea-ai/

Download New SC2 AllInOne 10.0.0
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/starcrack-allin1/SC2 AIO

Install guide
_ Copy green tea AI to SCAI folder in SCALLInOne
_ In option tab, select custom ai setting
_ Choose Green Tea
_ Playing game


in Game Tab dont forget to Check the Use Custom AI before launche to actually use your selected AI or else Blizzard AI core will be used.
image

_ Expansion now working better. Normal will be 3 expansion, only expand at the 4 mines when the first one almost out of minerals.
_ It's a bit talkative.


Compatible with the difficulty setting of SC2AllInOne.

Very Easy: APM 300
Easy : APM 600
_ Reveal commander name
_ No Micro ( evade storm, hit & run )

* The very easy and easy ai will reveal the commander name at the beginning. So you can practice and build counter for each commander.

Medium: APM 900
Hard : No limit
_ Hide commander name

* These like the standard version of Green Tea, enough all feature, the Medium AI have reduce APM so it can be easier for longterm when there are many units.

Very Hard: Slow bonus harvest rate
Insane : Fast bonus harvest rate

* These are cheating resources like the Green Racer AI, the different is very hard AI have slower cheating race compare to Insane.



ptanhkhoa you are very awesome and a baller.

edit:

wait wat?

I have to give deep respect to ptanhkhoa, his AI coding is off the charts. First game i tried vs. the insane AI just for the lulz a cheese that everyone except high diamond has trouble with.

I float my CC to the gold minerals, start heavy mining with mules and plonk down 5 raxes for mass marines. I push at 20 marines and he had 5 banelings, 30 zerglings, 2 spine crawlers and 1 queen at his expo with PERFECT positioning.

That's the perfect army composition and 90% of human players even get that wrong, im amazed.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
smurfdevil
Profile Joined July 2010
Kosovo38 Posts
July 23 2010 13:19 GMT
#15
funny how the computer wants to humiliate me and then asks where I got this strategy from etc.

lol

the interaction is funny and playing is definitely not that boring as it is with the blizzard ai. good work.
Redx
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
July 23 2010 13:23 GMT
#16
looks nice, gonna try this out when i'm home
We live our truest life when we are in dreams awake
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
July 23 2010 14:27 GMT
#17
I was 300ish diamond terran, and after like 6 tries I finally managed to beat the very hard version. I played Tvp on LT and tried different styles of bio, but it wass insanely hard to play long macro games against it, as it macroes pretty much perfect + I guess cheats ?(by how much?). So I won by making a quick marine/maurder stim push and outmicroed it. But I guess if you want to win by long macro games you proably have to go mech. Bio just requires that you have better mechanics than your opponent.
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 15:33:32
July 23 2010 15:27 GMT
#18
@Hider: the very hard cheat very little. You can see the HR: 1.* in the middle of the screen, that his how much the AI cheat.

You can see at the beginning it like normal 1.0. With the very hard AI, it much be 1.25 after 5 minute ( that mean 6 mineral and 5 gas ). After 10 minute it will be 1.5 ( 7 minerals and 6 gas ). But it won't be abuse the extra minerals to rush people at start.

But the core development is for the non-cheating AI to make it more realistic compare to human.Working on research some function like nuke, thor drop, nydus, warprism to adapt human style play.
Asphyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania12 Posts
July 23 2010 15:48 GMT
#19
I can't get it to work properly. The ai just seems an ordinary blizzard ai not doing anything special. Yes, i checked the "use custom A.I. box" and i selected the Greetea from the left and click save. I just don't know if it's really the GreenTea ai as it's not doing anything special (talking like other ppl said they would).
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 23 2010 16:05 GMT
#20
If it is the Green Tea Ai, it will appear the Welcome screen on the left

Green Tea AI
Version ........
by ptanhkhoa

veryhard/ insane ( difficulty of the AI )

Make sure you following the instruction though. By the ways, inside the green tea Ai folder must be the Trigger Libs folder. Maybe there are still another Green Tea Ai inside when you extract the file rar.

Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
July 23 2010 16:24 GMT
#21
On July 24 2010 00:27 ptanhkhoa wrote:
@Hider: the very hard cheat very little. You can see the HR: 1.* in the middle of the screen, that his how much the AI cheat.

You can see at the beginning it like normal 1.0. With the very hard AI, it much be 1.25 after 5 minute ( that mean 6 mineral and 5 gas ). After 10 minute it will be 1.5 ( 7 minerals and 6 gas ). But it won't be abuse the extra minerals to rush people at start.

But the core development is for the non-cheating AI to make it more realistic compare to human.Working on research some function like nuke, thor drop, nydus, warprism to adapt human style play.


I think cheating with 50% is quite a lot. Having 15 zealots instead of 10 is a huge difference. The AI is quite intelligent as well. But never mind its definately a challenge.
Neuuubeh
Profile Joined July 2010
138 Posts
July 23 2010 16:32 GMT
#22
If it is the Greentea, you will have a small welcome text on the bottom left of the screen right after loading, saying Greentea v x.xx, difficulty, GL HF and all those good stuff
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 16:42:12
July 23 2010 16:40 GMT
#23
@Hider: Yes, but if you assuming it cheating at start, in reality,it only get the 7 minerals on the starting of 10 minutes. So it basic just add 1 or 2 zealot, later game must be tough though, especially when you let the AI live longer.
Celesti
Profile Joined April 2010
69 Posts
July 23 2010 16:59 GMT
#24
I can't select 1v1 mode and also the maps I've downloaded are the official blizzard maps but they don't have gold mineral patches, wtf....
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 23 2010 17:07 GMT
#25
@Celesti : just closed all the other AI slot to make it 1 v 1. The maps you down should be the new beta phase 2 maps. It it download section of SCAIO 10.0
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
July 23 2010 17:07 GMT
#26
Yippee! Thanks, the Blizzard ai was terrible.

Celesti, Get the maps from: http://www.nibbits.com/media/tools/files/20100715200208/Official_Ladder_Maps_Phase2.rar
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
July 23 2010 17:17 GMT
#27
it builds units so fast D: even on easy
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
SkullOne
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
July 23 2010 17:19 GMT
#28
On July 23 2010 21:21 dambros wrote:
Sorry for my ignorance, but why does SC2AllInOne requires you to shut down antivirus/firewalls and allow admin access for it? I may be too paranoid, but just want to be sure...

Also, does it really replicate a smss.exe process in the system?

Thanks.


It only requires Admin access when you first run the installer if you are using Windows Vista or Windows 7 with UAC enabled because it extracts to the Program Files directory.

I have never had to turn off my AV (MSE) or firewall (one in Windows 7) for it to function. I also never run it with admin rights and it never asks as I have UAC maxed out in Windows 7, so if it had to be elevated it would throw the UAC window.

I assume that some 3rd party software firewalls and/or other 3rd party AV programs could have issues with it based on whatever hooks the program uses to launch SC2.

Good to hear Green Tea AI is usable again. Blizzard AI is worthless.
I dont need no stinking quote
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
July 23 2010 17:26 GMT
#29
On July 24 2010 02:19 SkullOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 21:21 dambros wrote:
Sorry for my ignorance, but why does SC2AllInOne requires you to shut down antivirus/firewalls and allow admin access for it? I may be too paranoid, but just want to be sure...

Also, does it really replicate a smss.exe process in the system?

Thanks.


It only requires Admin access when you first run the installer if you are using Windows Vista or Windows 7 with UAC enabled because it extracts to the Program Files directory.

I have never had to turn off my AV (MSE) or firewall (one in Windows 7) for it to function. I also never run it with admin rights and it never asks as I have UAC maxed out in Windows 7, so if it had to be elevated it would throw the UAC window.

I assume that some 3rd party software firewalls and/or other 3rd party AV programs could have issues with it based on whatever hooks the program uses to launch SC2.

Good to hear Green Tea AI is usable again. Blizzard AI is worthless.


Thank you for your answer. It seems it is pretty secure, considering the amount of ppl using the software.
No pain, no gain!
Celesti
Profile Joined April 2010
69 Posts
July 23 2010 17:54 GMT
#30
Thanks for help with the maps guys.
uNtrue_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
July 23 2010 18:18 GMT
#31
Lol. The AI's talking is soooo distracting. Very fun AI map indeed.
smurfdevil
Profile Joined July 2010
Kosovo38 Posts
July 23 2010 19:42 GMT
#32
ok I played a few games on hard.. so the most difficult one without cheating and compared it with blizzard ai. from the difficulty I can't make out any differences for me both are pretty even... I had
already the opinion Green Tea is probably easier...
is very hard cheating on the default ai? I am not sure...

after all I see how this Green Tea AI has whole different build orders.. I see banelings and other funny stuff. It is more authentic, like a real player.
the idea with the talking is the best part of it!

and to the paranoid one, check out the .exe file, open it with your archive-utility and copy the suspicious files, which you have to put in your SC2 folter to another location and scan them :p
alonestar_ak
Profile Joined June 2010
Afghanistan31 Posts
July 23 2010 20:03 GMT
#33
in hard, i feel the zerg ai is not as hard as other 2 races, especially Terran, it give me a lot of trouble.
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 24 2010 01:33 GMT
#34
Zerg race is still under experimental though. Sometimes it seem to build many buildings and not specialize make it lack of resources. will think of different build strategy for zerg.
zealotz55
Profile Joined May 2010
United States229 Posts
July 24 2010 04:48 GMT
#35
does it cheat (ie mineral / gas multiplier?)
My life for Aiur!
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 05:04:15
July 24 2010 05:02 GMT
#36
says there are no maps? do i need to DL those separately?

EDIT: THANKS!
On July 24 2010 02:07 Peekaboo wrote:
Yippee! Thanks, the Blizzard ai was terrible.

Celesti, Get the maps from: http://www.nibbits.com/media/tools/files/20100715200208/Official_Ladder_Maps_Phase2.rar

rkiga
Profile Joined June 2010
United States44 Posts
July 24 2010 05:04 GMT
#37
^ Hard does not cheat, Very hard and Insane do have mineral multiplier that starts at normal and builds up slowly (it's written in big text at the top of the screen)

Yeah, since Z is the race that relies the most on game sense and situational awareness or whatever you want to call it, it's hardest to program an AI for it.

It's very good with burrow, but it sometimes researches it way too early. I just played againt a "very hard" Z and it did 14 pool 16 hatch. I FE myself and then just went to poke with 6 units, I think it already had burrow done but only 1 queen, 4 zerglings, and 0 spine crawlers, with 2 roaches and a maybe 4 more lings popping out a few seconds later and hydras coming just in time to die. =/

I know you're supposed to play more of a macro game against this AI, but I guess you need to let Z get 2 bases running before even trying to pressure?

When it gets integrated into YABOT, it should be really really good. Then hopefully you can practice against specific timing attacks in a real game instead of against an empty base.
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zealotz55
Profile Joined May 2010
United States229 Posts
July 24 2010 05:08 GMT
#38
thx for the cheating info, I cant seem to get it to work with the latest version of SCALLIN1

I have 9.9.0 and there is no option for custom AI
My life for Aiur!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 06:33:21
July 24 2010 06:13 GMT
#39
After I install it, I'm missing the sc2allin1/objects. How do I get it?

This is what I did:

1. Turn off AVGfree
2. Set installer to run as admin
3. Extract
4. Try to run the launcher
5. Get error that says it cannot find sc2allin1/objects
rza
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada384 Posts
July 24 2010 15:55 GMT
#40
On July 24 2010 15:13 Chairman Ray wrote:
After I install it, I'm missing the sc2allin1/objects. How do I get it?

This is what I did:

1. Turn off AVGfree
2. Set installer to run as admin
3. Extract
4. Try to run the launcher
5. Get error that says it cannot find sc2allin1/objects



im gettin an error massage too

i installed Scallin1 in programefiles/sc2beta
when i try to launch scallin1 im getting this error :
application cannot launch correctly
Until my death, my goal's to stay alive.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
July 24 2010 16:03 GMT
#41
On July 24 2010 14:08 zealotz55 wrote:
thx for the cheating info, I cant seem to get it to work with the latest version of SCALLIN1

I have 9.9.0 and there is no option for custom AI


That's not the latest version.

http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/starcrack-allin1/
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 24 2010 17:06 GMT
#42
@rza, chairman : you should find the solution here, make sure to run the tools in administrator and maybe select compatible with service pack 3.
http://sc2.nibbits.com/forums/29/view/416/post-here-issues-bugs-problems-regarding-the-launcher-only?&p=1
Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
July 24 2010 17:29 GMT
#43
im getting an unable to pen map error when i try to launch a map
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 24 2010 18:09 GMT
#44
Please use the maps pack at the first post
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
July 24 2010 19:34 GMT
#45
I tried to play like 10 + macro games against the very hardAI as terran vs protoss. IMO its almost impossible to win in long macro games without abusing the AI. Sure you could try and rush it before, but I want to play macro games, and right now the very hard AI might be cheeting a bit too much, as it can break my combination of hellions/vikings/siege/marines extremely easy as it has like 40/50% more units me. I would love too see some high lvl players beat it, as I as a 300 diamond player have big difficulties.
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:11:12
July 24 2010 20:07 GMT
#46
how can i choose the difficulty ? sry for the noob question, i can't see

Edit: oops forgot to dl the new allinone ima see if it work now

Edit2: ok nvm i was dumb
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Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
July 24 2010 20:24 GMT
#47
im using the maps from the first post, and now the map opens blank
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 24 2010 22:14 GMT
#48
@Omer: You must have 3 things:
_ Lastest beta version (patch 18)
_ Newest SCAIO
_ New map pack

And read the instruction carefully at both tools


By the way, vernam7 is making the new SCAIO with the good watching replay function. Make sure you check it out ^.<



mikehall683
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States159 Posts
July 24 2010 22:23 GMT
#49
idk how i feel about the talking... it's not that bad if you're playing 1v1, but i tried a 2v2 and the screen was filled with pseudo trash talk every five minutes... kind of distracting if you ask me; no one would actually talk that much in a real game

very good ai though. thanks for posting the tut.
GG GG BBY BBY BBY
AioncannonzSC2
Profile Joined May 2010
United States92 Posts
July 24 2010 23:30 GMT
#50
is this AI too hard?

I am not that good but I managed to beat almost every game in bronze league, went from rank 80 to rank 5 over phase 2. But I cant even beat the Very Easy GTAI. It seems to have way too great macro, like it cheats on every difficulty.

of course every setting of the default blizz AI is easily beaten.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
July 24 2010 23:34 GMT
#51
thank you so much for this!
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 25 2010 01:23 GMT
#52
@AioncannonzSC2: the AI only cheat on very hard mod or above. The very easy ai show the commander name so i guess it easy to build counter to the enemy ( the APM is 300 though, so later game you will see Very Easy AI cannot control many unit, let some idle worker ).

@Mikehai 683, in the new version of SC2 AIO, there are the check box with let you enough AI Chat and bonus rate on/off
SC2 AIO 10.1.1

[image loading]

xorpwnz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States185 Posts
July 25 2010 01:32 GMT
#53
Thanks for this amazing AI system! I have now fully integrated it into my map (YABOT). :D
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 25 2010 06:23 GMT
#54
@xorpwnz: Tested some maps on YABOT, it still not complete compatible. Don't train unit, so will look through the code.
titan55
Profile Joined July 2009
United States227 Posts
July 25 2010 07:18 GMT
#55
Hey guys

I'm trying to install it, but all i get from the custom AI selection screen is

Commander
GameData
GreenTeaMain
Triggerlibs

what am i doing wrong?
Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
July 25 2010 07:31 GMT
#56
Nice. It's actually not bad for an A.I.

Gotta say though, Hard is way too easy.
Very hard / Insane cheating is something I suppose, but I don't like the idea of only being able to be beaten if the enemy is cheating. I know it's an A.I and not a player, but still.


I guess making a non-cheating A.I competent enough is very difficult, though.
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 25 2010 09:55 GMT
#57
@Ganches: thanks, the new SC2 AllInOne and a new Green Tea AI is compatible can let you watch replays. So i'm very glad if you could give me some feed back about the error bugs.

Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 17:22:02
July 25 2010 17:21 GMT
#58
I was ranked 2069 in the North American servers with 241 points in the Diamond league, and I just got completely annihilated by Green Tea 0.5 on Hard mode in a PvP. Well done and I look forward to practicing more before the game gets released midnight tomorrow.

241 points in the Diamond league clearly isn't pro, but i'd say i'm better than at least 90% of SC2 beta players.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
July 25 2010 17:22 GMT
#59
On July 25 2010 16:18 titan55 wrote:
Hey guys

I'm trying to install it, but all i get from the custom AI selection screen is

Commander
GameData
GreenTeaMain
Triggerlibs

what am i doing wrong?


Put the GreenTea folder inside the AI folder of SC2AllIn1.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 17:44:48
July 25 2010 17:44 GMT
#60
On July 26 2010 02:21 Dionyseus wrote:
I was ranked 2069 in the North American servers with 241 points in the Diamond league, and I just got completely annihilated by Green Tea 0.5 on Hard mode in a PvP. Well done and I look forward to practicing more before the game gets released midnight tomorrow.

241 points in the Diamond league clearly isn't pro, but i'd say i'm better than at least 90% of SC2 beta players.


Just played my second game and won easily, it fast expoed again with just a bunch of zealots. With micro I was able to kill all the zealots with my stalkers, then I rolled over its base.

I think my mistake in the first game was not scouting well enough, it had fast expoed and I didn't notice it until it was too late.

One thing I noticed is that the replay didn't save all the chat that the Green Tea was doing during the game.

here's the replay of my win:
[url blocked]
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
July 25 2010 18:10 GMT
#61
Possible bug the fast dark templar commander didn't attack once he got dark templars, just sat in one base for a very long time. I did take out the forward pylon so not sure if that affected it.

There was a funny bug in the version before the latest. I had won about ten straight games versus the hard ai and was feeling good. Then the ai starting *crushing* me. After about the fifth game I realized it must have bugged and been on insane even though hard was selected. Downloading the latest versions fixed this.


One suggestion for improvement is the use of forcefields. Mostly they help my terran army against the toss. They block their own ramp when they have me outnumbered and they often cut off their zealots from getting to me, so I back off and pick off the zealots running into and around the forcefields while the stalkers can't reach me.

I suspect never forcefielding a ramp when in a winning position and having forcefields hit the middle of a terran army to split it up would be big improvements. Right now it seems to forcefield in front of my army instead of cutting it in half.
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
pilsken
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany441 Posts
July 25 2010 18:36 GMT
#62
Can you make it shut up? Seriously, i don't need any comments from my AI opponent. Neither him bitching nor him insulting me. The AI is really awesome, but the comments are just entirely unnecessary. At least make them deactivatable...
meCa
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada58 Posts
July 25 2010 18:40 GMT
#63
I had trouble installing this. My SCII Beta folder isn't on my first hard drive, and the extraction process is defaulted to extract at C:\Program Files\Starcraft II Beta\. You can't choose the extraction destination.

I got around this by simply copy/pasting the extracted files into the location that my Beta was installed.
balistix
Profile Joined July 2010
Croatia63 Posts
July 25 2010 19:19 GMT
#64
man i could easily take on insane blizzard's ai but i can't even beat medium here. i play with therran and i can only beat zerg with mech. i don't know what to do against protoss and terran
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
July 25 2010 22:58 GMT
#65

There is a check box to make it shut up if you launch it with SCallin1.


Another suggestion is it seems to make way too many unit producing structures. Like the toss base will have gateways, stargates and a lot of robos that it never made anything out of. My last game there were 3 robos and a stargate that never made anything.

Some leaner more focussed commanders that make us respond to them rather than "adaptive commanders" that try to adapt to us, would be quite strong. Like a 4 gate push commander who only adds robo bays or stargates in mid to late game. Or a gateway only commander who just upgrades the units as time goes by. Same for terran.
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
July 25 2010 23:16 GMT
#66
On July 26 2010 02:44 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 02:21 Dionyseus wrote:
I was ranked 2069 in the North American servers with 241 points in the Diamond league, and I just got completely annihilated by Green Tea 0.5 on Hard mode in a PvP. Well done and I look forward to practicing more before the game gets released midnight tomorrow.

241 points in the Diamond league clearly isn't pro, but i'd say i'm better than at least 90% of SC2 beta players.


Just played my second game and won easily, it fast expoed again with just a bunch of zealots. With micro I was able to kill all the zealots with my stalkers, then I rolled over its base.

I think my mistake in the first game was not scouting well enough, it had fast expoed and I didn't notice it until it was too late.

One thing I noticed is that the replay didn't save all the chat that the Green Tea was doing during the game.

here's the replay of my win:
[url blocked]


It changes build order, on my third PvP game it went one base all-in and destroyed me.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
July 25 2010 23:36 GMT
#67
So i think i know what might be wrong with mine, im actually at build 0.21. that random update some people got on the 26th. could it be why i can't play?
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 26 2010 00:34 GMT
#68
@peeko: thanks for your advice, probably check about dark tempars once. About building structures, probably because it is changing to another commander
@omer: i think it not a major update so it will work fine.
@LSB: download new SCAIOn, there are a check box "Allow AI to chat". You can uncheck to make AI stop chatting
@Dionesyus : Thanks for the replay, there are some commanders the AI build very fast expand, end up to low upgrade, so it can only product Zealot . I think will enough feature to make the Zealot run and waiting for at least 1, 2 ranged support if there are enemy range unit like Roach, Marauder or Stalker.
BigDatez
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada434 Posts
July 26 2010 06:42 GMT
#69
On July 23 2010 22:17 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 19:19 ptanhkhoa wrote:
Download New Green Tea AI version here
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/green-tea-ai/

Download New SC2 AllInOne 10.0.0
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/starcrack-allin1/SC2 AIO

Install guide
_ Copy green tea AI to SCAI folder in SCALLInOne
_ In option tab, select custom ai setting
_ Choose Green Tea
_ Playing game


in Game Tab dont forget to Check the Use Custom AI before launche to actually use your selected AI or else Blizzard AI core will be used.
image

_ Expansion now working better. Normal will be 3 expansion, only expand at the 4 mines when the first one almost out of minerals.
_ It's a bit talkative.


Compatible with the difficulty setting of SC2AllInOne.

Very Easy: APM 300
Easy : APM 600
_ Reveal commander name
_ No Micro ( evade storm, hit & run )

* The very easy and easy ai will reveal the commander name at the beginning. So you can practice and build counter for each commander.

Medium: APM 900
Hard : No limit
_ Hide commander name

* These like the standard version of Green Tea, enough all feature, the Medium AI have reduce APM so it can be easier for longterm when there are many units.

Very Hard: Slow bonus harvest rate
Insane : Fast bonus harvest rate

* These are cheating resources like the Green Racer AI, the different is very hard AI have slower cheating race compare to Insane.



ptanhkhoa you are very awesome and a baller.

edit:

wait wat?

I have to give deep respect to ptanhkhoa, his AI coding is off the charts. First game i tried vs. the insane AI just for the lulz a cheese that everyone except high diamond has trouble with.

I float my CC to the gold minerals, start heavy mining with mules and plonk down 5 raxes for mass marines. I push at 20 marines and he had 5 banelings, 30 zerglings, 2 spine crawlers and 1 queen at his expo with PERFECT positioning.

That's the perfect army composition and 90% of human players even get that wrong, im amazed.



thats because they get SUCH a HUGE resource bonus, that they CAN get all of that stuff out in time.
Video games > sex (Proven fact)
alonestar_ak
Profile Joined June 2010
Afghanistan31 Posts
July 26 2010 08:05 GMT
#70
As I know, it doesn't cheat on Hard mode, even cheat less than Insane AI of Blizzard.
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
July 26 2010 14:19 GMT
#71
The Green Tea AI 0.51:
_ Force field ability modified target.
_ Some fix about changing commander.
_ The HR rate now display to Minerals and Gas, so you can know exactly the mining rate of AI in very hard / insane mode.
Kordox
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 08:09:11
August 04 2010 07:39 GMT
#72
Was this AI made specifically for very skilled players? I don't stand a chance even on Easy. Does it NEED such high APM to function properly?

Edit: Can't even beat very easy. It's not even close. Each difficulty setting feel pretty much the same to me. It does everything very well no matter the setting. It just does it even quicker at higher settings.
YuMSc2
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland104 Posts
August 06 2010 18:56 GMT
#73
I have a few questions and comments concerning this superb program.

Firstly, I cannot open old replays (I get a message saying "Unable to open replay" and get directed to the SC2 main screen). Also, when I try opening a recent replay (one that was automatically created after playing the AI with sc2allinone) i get this error message, "The mod data loaded does not match the mod data used" etc. Can anyone help me?

Secondly, I am a protoss player and I cannot beat terran on hard difficulty while I can beat all other races (I am mid diamond player). Can anybody try beating terran with protoss on hard?? If you manage, please tell me how.

Lastly, I want to thank whoever made this awesome program!!
I think therefore I am
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
August 06 2010 19:52 GMT
#74
Are there any custom maps on battle.net that use this AI? Would be nice to test it with friends online for team games.
What this
ptanhkhoa
Profile Joined June 2010
Vietnam87 Posts
August 26 2010 10:17 GMT
#75
There are some maps that i included the ai script, you can download these maps at this post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143514

The AI version is 0.56 now
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
January 10 2011 10:18 GMT
#76
I tried following your instructions to importing the AI to a map and testing (without publishing), and it just wasn't working for me. How does one play the AI on a mp they want?

Also I am extremely annoyed at 2 things (related):
1. I can't select my commander in-game
2. The commanders often run terrible builds because they don't run builds based off the opponents race, which they should. Making a build to VERSUS a certain race is practically just as important as making any build for the player's race at all.
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