|
On July 22 2010 09:07 kzn wrote:
25 mans were fucking easy compared to the 40 mans.
Although if you managed to get a good 40 man it was ridiculously fun.
We took 120+ tries on the first encounter in Blackwing Lair ... it was a lot of frustration and really good after we managed it. After that it got a lot easier though. Smaller raids put more pressure on the guild as it wasnt so easy to accomodate all classes (especially after Blizzard decided that the Horde needs Loladins too) when you had to take X of class Y to be able to succeed. Thats part of the reason why I quit two and a half years ago (February 29th, 2008).
Personally I think WoW has a bigger potential for entertainment and reward, because you can share the excitement with a group of friends (not everyone has the luxury of lots of RL friends playing WoW in the same guild though), because it is impossible to describe the emotion of a win / survival of a tough encounter to someone who wasnt there. We had one guy in the guild who tried to describe his awesome PvP exploits in guildchat and on teamspeak ... obviously he failed and was the one guildmember who was on my ignore list.
Starcraft is A LOT lonelier than WoW ever will be, just because of its organization (no chat channels yet for SC2 ...) and even watching a replay wont bring the same excitement you get when you play yourself.
|
same story for me. I have quit WoW (for now) because of starcraft 2. Glad i did. Will save me a lot of money lol
|
seems like me and some friends dont need 2 sacrifice the whole life 2 be "good" at wow srsly..
this blablalb wow kills soooooooo much time is just bullshit. u freaking dont need 2 raid every single night and so on.
if they nerd so much wow they will also nerd so much SCII and "waste time" has nothing 2 do with the game. people that just cant say "no i wont come today" are the "nerds" and they will do it in every game.
i mean "i quit a game 2 play a different game" if he doesnt nerd this new game so freaking much he could easily play both games couldnt he?.
and well lets all wait till the "OMFG SCII ITS NEW AND SHIT OMFG ITS BLIZZARD SO GREAT" hype is over and we can really tell if SCII will be big or not.
also plz dont compare SCII esports 2 Wc3 or SC:BW back in the days its stupid.
|
On July 22 2010 08:50 Two wrote:
Thank you so much
<2
<2 to you too.
|
On July 22 2010 20:20 rasers wrote:
seems like me and some friends dont need 2 sacrifice the whole life 2 be "good" at wow srsly..
this blablalb wow kills soooooooo much time is just bullshit. u freaking dont need 2 raid every single night and so on.
if they nerd so much wow they will also nerd so much SCII and "waste time" has nothing 2 do with the game. people that just cant say "no i wont come today" are the "nerds" and they will do it in every game.
i mean "i quit a game 2 play a different game" if he doesnt nerd this new game so freaking much he could easily play both games couldnt he?.
You're wrong.
Personnaly I stopped playing mid-Burning Crusade, and i was in a high PvE guild. "High rank" in the guild.
I did miss some raid nights, but each time, the day after it felt like you missed something.
Then sometimes, the guild needs you to be there for a special encounter.
Then sometimes, the guild needs you to be there and ready, full buff etc...
It has nothing to do with being "good at wow" as you say, because it doesn't really mean anything. It has to do with a social group which relies to you.
I think WoW has changed a bit since this time, and it's easier to cope with roaster changes, but back in the days, a raid night could be cancelled because one tank was missing.
So anyway, as soon as i stopped WoW, even if it was years ago,i started waiting for SCII for these precise reasons (amongst others), as some others have already told it in this thread...
|
I played a bit of mmorpg called Lineage 2 but there's really no point. More than 50% of combat is due to guear or numbers. I had enough of losing to less skilled players that thought they were the better than me - winning simply because they had better equipment (more time spent farming or botting) and had double the number of players. I'd rather lose because i didn't play good enough, and give kudos to my opponent for playing better. That's why i'll never play mmorpgs again, they're a complete and uter waste of time.
If any player currently addicted to WoW or other mmorpg reads this, quit the game, and play something else where there's no sense of false confidence given by guear or numbers, like FPS or RTS like SC2. Whatever feeling of accomplishment you may get out of the mmorpg can be hugely atributed to things outside of yourself (guear, clan), which gives you a false sense of power. On the other hand, FPS or RTS, you can pick any computer and any account and still be good, and that's much more real and fulfilling.
|
same here for my
but "only" 5years of wow <3
|
+ Show Spoiler +On July 22 2010 08:50 Two wrote:
BEFORE READING:
This is just a little introduction about myself and why I think it is such a good idea to quit WoW for SC2. If you don't have a couple minutes to read then don't bother trolling me or anything, thank you ;D
I don't know where I should be posting this, but this looks like the best place since I am quitting WoW for Starcraft 2. If anyone cares, i'll tell you guys a little bit about my past experiences with the Blizzard games and how much I have enjoyed them.
Starcraft was THE first Blizzard game I played and the first online game I played. Never playing competatively (obviously) at such a young age. I was in love with this awesome game. A couple years later I got into Diablo - Diablo 2 - Diablo exp. Then Warcraft. Finally WoW. I started playing WoW around December 2005 (almost 6 years). I made a Rogue named Two and have played him ever since. After playing a Rogue (and only a Rogue) for almost 6 years, my skill increased due to the stupid amount of hours I put into this game. Arenas were my thing... the competative aspect of WoW. I obtained the "Gladiator" title many seasons.
The day I found out about SC2 release, I pre-ordered the game... then eventually got my beta key. I was terrible at the game and got frustrated how easily I lost. Being a Zerg player didn't make things any easier. I couldn't just block off my base and get tanks and turrets like terran could.
Anyways ~ Here are some good things about quitting WoW for SC2
1) WoW costs $15 a month
2) WoW can be highly addictive (not saying that sc2 isn't addictive)
3) In WoW (if you play competatively) the skill cap isn't NEARLY as high as it is in SC2
#3 is one of the main reasons I quit WoW. Starcraft just has a rediculously high skill cap... If you lose, you know it's because you played it wrong and NOT because your gear wasn't as good, or you were outnumbered.
I just wanted to introduce myself to the TeamLiquid members and tell you guys how much I enjoy the warm community.
Thank you so much
<2
Edit: I have not been playing WoW for exactly 6 years.. But a very long time =P
I unsubscribed to WoW the day I got access to the beta, and haven't looked back. I will admit that I'll probably buy the Cataclysm expansion, just to see all the new content...but 4 80s later, I grew tired of the game. Way too much time to invest to clear all the content. Whoever made the comment on 20 minutes being useless in WoW but being enough time to play a game in SC2 was dead on. From day one, the game annoyed me because it wasn't skill based, it was time based...yet I allowed myself to get sucked into the addiction. Oh well, SC2 will do a good job of filling that role.
|
Should rename this thread to WoWrehab
|
welcome to Starcraft and TL :3 mind you i still play wow but not as obsessively as i used to in the beggining and SC will surely take most of my game time for a while now :D
|
On July 22 2010 15:39 mrkent wrote:
Question to WoW players:
I heard somewhere before that Blizzard is trying to get wow players to transition into SC2. Considering WoW makes more money, that would be a bad business decision. Why do you guys think they'd try to do that? And have you seen blizzard actively trying to get players over?
Only thing I can think of is you guys start playing sc2, and then go back to cataclysm when it comes out. And then buy future sc2 expansions while continuing to play wow.
Well.. i guess their goal is to make us play the two games at the same time.
There is a lot of " down time " in WoW where u are just waiting for new content, starcraft seems to be a great way to pass time during these one.
And because you don't have to pay each month for Starcraft, playing both don't seems sensless.
Oh, and believe it or not, there will be a lot of players that will buy the collector edition just for the Thor mini-pet.
|
I made the switch too.
I've been in desperate need of a game that is skill based. I want to get owned, and I want to get better and learn because of it. I don't like getting rofflestomped, and know my only way to get better is to play... more (or switch classes).
That, and bad community is bad.
|
WoW and Starcraft 2 are two totally different types of games played for (usually) totally different reasons. They cannot possibly occupy the same role. If you enjoy both games, play both games recognizing their differences, and don't act like you're dumping some huge burden off your shoulders by quitting WoW. Because in the end, your life is still under the thumb of Blizzard Entertainment.
|
If WoW is the only game you play, and it certainly was for me, for a good 5 years, you save an absolute shitload of money. Its the equivalent of one video game every 4 months. It cost me about $900 for a subscription for those 5 years and I'm pretty sure I've easily spent that in the last 8 months alone. Let's see here:
Let me see, how much have I spent on video games since I quit in November?
Dragon Age ~$60
Dragon Age: Origins ~$40
Dawn of War 2 ~$50
Left4Dead2 + 2K Games pack (Civilization 4, Bioshock 1 & 2, Borderlands etc.) + Supreme Commander 2 on Steam ~ $120
Assassin's Creed 2 (XBox360) ~ $25
Starcraft 2 ~ $60
= $355 in 8 months, so at this rate, I'll need to play SC2, and old games I've already played, EXCLUSIVELY for the next 3 years, just to break even with what WoW cost me.
I just don't see that happening. WoW is very entertaining and very cheap.
|
this should be a blog
why is it 13 pages long
|
I'm quitting Wow too (account ends August 10) until the release of Cataclysm, and even then, I'm not sure I will subscribe again. My only regret is that I won't progress farther than 11/12HM in 25man ICC, but anyway with the constant boss nerfing and the Hellscream buff, pve has became more or less pointless. No more boss nerfing in Starcraft 2 ! 
|
On July 22 2010 22:54 Snowfield wrote:
Should rename this thread to WoWrehab
Why? I never asked anyone to tell me their life stories about WoW. I was just telling people why I think SC2 is such a better game than WoW and that it has a higher skill cap than WoW will ever have. And on top of that it saves you some money =D
|
On July 23 2010 01:55 Two wrote:Why? I never asked anyone to tell me their life stories about WoW. I was just telling people why I think SC2 is such a better game than WoW and that it has a higher skill cap than WoW will ever have. And on top of that it saves you some money =D
wow's skill cap was back in Vanilla (aka first 2 years, aka, before Burning Crusade) where the combat was based on skill and tactics instead of gear. Ya there were some imbalances that dont exist today, but today it's mostly "I HAVE S8 GEAR, YOU HAVE S7, IMMA WIN 90% OF THE TIME!"
which is stupid because it takes the fun outta pvp, hence the "low skill cap"
remember FoTM pallies at the beginning of WoTLK? ya, THAT was low skill cap.
Starcraft 2 is def. gonna blow WoW outta the water compared to the current version of WoW, but comparing it to the first few years of launch, SC2 is only slightly ahead, but still higher
|
On July 23 2010 01:55 Two wrote:Why? I never asked anyone to tell me their life stories about WoW. I was just telling people why I think SC2 is such a better game than WoW and that it has a higher skill cap than WoW will ever have. And on top of that it saves you some money =D
It's what it has come to 
|
On July 23 2010 02:02 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 01:55 Two wrote:On July 22 2010 22:54 Snowfield wrote:
Should rename this thread to WoWrehab Why? I never asked anyone to tell me their life stories about WoW. I was just telling people why I think SC2 is such a better game than WoW and that it has a higher skill cap than WoW will ever have. And on top of that it saves you some money =D wow's skill cap was back in Vanilla (aka first 2 years, aka, before Burning Crusade) where the combat was based on skill and tactics instead of gear. Ya there were some imbalances that dont exist today, but today it's mostly "I HAVE S8 GEAR, YOU HAVE S7, IMMA WIN 90% OF THE TIME!" which is stupid because it takes the fun outta pvp, hence the "low skill cap" remember FoTM pallies at the beginning of WoTLK? ya, THAT was low skill cap. Starcraft 2 is def. gonna blow WoW outta the water compared to the current version of WoW, but comparing it to the first few years of launch, SC2 is only slightly ahead, but still higher
Keitzer I agree with only half of what you said. I remember back in Vanilla I (as a rogue) could open up with a CS > KS and kill someone. I think that the game was most balanced during s1-s4ish
But to be honest I think that WoW wasn't even really intended to be THAT competative of a game.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
