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Usyless
Profile Joined June 2010
54 Posts
July 11 2010 17:28 GMT
#61
On July 08 2010 23:04 habermas wrote:
What do you mean by "real AI"? They are scripted in the same way as the others.


This isn't well-known, but Blizzard AIs are in fact true artificial intelligences complete with consciousness. They pass the Turing test. A Blizzard task force is investigating the moral implications of killing them as we speak.
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
July 11 2010 18:23 GMT
#62
On July 08 2010 21:30 Dionyseus wrote:Blizzard has said that the AI in SC2 will be better than any AI they ever created, but after winning this game and seeing the posts in this thread I doubt that will happen, its micro and strategy is just awful.


Haha yeah it's pretty awful, even the brood war AI could be pretty deadly, I don't think have outdone themselves at all.
Tresh
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina68 Posts
July 12 2010 16:11 GMT
#63
On July 12 2010 02:28 Usyless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 23:04 habermas wrote:
What do you mean by "real AI"? They are scripted in the same way as the others.


This isn't well-known, but Blizzard AIs are in fact true artificial intelligences complete with consciousness. They pass the Turing test. A Blizzard task force is investigating the moral implications of killing them as we speak.


That's exactly what i thought when he said "real AI". SkyNet, anyone?
Huh?
superman.
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 13 2010 08:36 GMT
#64
ok update my gf beat the "hard" difficulty level now on her like 5th game of starcraft ever.

she is not a gamer, at all, the only game she plays is rockband once a month and super smash bros like once a month. lol.

she sat void rays and zealots as the computer poured broodlords ultras and some corrupters into them, and then sent her whole army a-click to the back of his main. so hilarious.

tldr: my retarded girlfriend who doesnt play video games beat a "hard" level AI player with voidrays
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 13 2010 08:40 GMT
#65
On July 12 2010 03:23 pheus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 21:30 Dionyseus wrote:Blizzard has said that the AI in SC2 will be better than any AI they ever created, but after winning this game and seeing the posts in this thread I doubt that will happen, its micro and strategy is just awful.


Haha yeah it's pretty awful, even the brood war AI could be pretty deadly, I don't think have outdone themselves at all.

it's kinda sad considering how there have been numerous AI micro projects for BW. You would've imagined that Blizzard would take some of those and adapted them into their AI :\
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
July 13 2010 09:13 GMT
#66
It wouldn't surprise me if an AI could only work if it had some kind of way to evaluate its gamestate, based on a hierarchical tree of high-level possibilities to be programmed by the AI maintainers, and based on that decided to take its next action. In any case, key is that someone maintains an AI, since after all it cannot learn on its own while there is continious strategical development among players.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 09:43:54
July 13 2010 09:42 GMT
#67
I tried playing against Very Hard and it is not very hard

It was protoss and built a lot of Archons+gateways units against my roach/hydra
if those archons were HT with storm it would have won.

I do not even remember it using any FF. Very disappointing is the lack of effort by Blizzard.
Great Tea is way more challenging then this.
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
July 13 2010 10:37 GMT
#68
plz roo type out to avoid more humiliation you get.
Give thanks and praise!
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 13 2010 20:21 GMT
#69
Insane AI should be pretty decent for practicing defending against a strong early game push.

Hopefully they will add more build orders and intelligent reactions down the road.

People could also just use the editor or some other program to either improve the existing AI's or create totally new ones.
psychobolt
Profile Joined May 2010
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:23:22
July 14 2010 19:21 GMT
#70
Anyone tried playing as Terran versus Protoss on Very Hard?

Any tips to counter its early rush?
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
July 14 2010 21:34 GMT
#71
On July 15 2010 04:21 psychobolt wrote:
Anyone tried playing as Terran versus Protoss on Very Hard?

Any tips to counter its early rush?


About anything works. Some of the easiest things are walling off with tanks or go marine/ghost.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
SeaSmoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States326 Posts
July 15 2010 00:48 GMT
#72
I'll be honest and say that I'm having trouble as a Zerg against very hard Terran. Easy enough to rush spellings and banelings after a couple tries. But having trouble playing more standard game against them.

Oh well, guess I need to get better.
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 19:59:02
July 15 2010 19:58 GMT
#73
it seems they are compensating the unpolished AI with stuff like greater resources and APM.

hopefully they actually work the AI to be better and better instead of leaving it in this state.

i found insane was pretty difficult..i thought they did an awesome job of programming, but i guess they just took the ez way out to make them harder.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
July 15 2010 21:38 GMT
#74
I can say that Very Hard settings is even easy for a casual player like me. I have a 40-60 APM and it's too easy to defeat the computer. It's very predictable and not at all fun.
Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
July 15 2010 23:26 GMT
#75
I just now beat 2 insane AI on my own... so dissapointing how poor their ai is.

basically just turtled super super hard, and then when I got a strong voidray/ carrier force I won the game... despite the fact the AI new I was going air...

really dissapointing
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