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EiNiS
Sweden72 Posts
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fatduck
United States148 Posts
On July 07 2010 21:06 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: you know.. people had contact with old friends and family members before facebook... might sound crazy to the younger generation but people used to meet or call eachother and actually talk! or even use other online services to communicate which dont expose evrything to the whole freakin world. Yea, and people got around before planes, trains, and automobiles, too. Just because something's new doesn't mean it's bad. Just because some people are idiots on Facebook doesn't mean everyone is. Plenty of people use Facebook to connect with friends and family and don't put a ton of private information on there... | ||
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
funneh. Although i think sc2's ladder system makes up for everything crossed out on that list. | ||
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citricsquid
United Kingdom15 Posts
On July 08 2010 05:34 Ikkath wrote: My facebook email isn't the same as my battle.net email - yet people added me just fine after I had logged in once and thus had the "battle.net service" application authorised on my facebook profile. The presence of this app is what determines if the user is flagged up as a potential RealID friend - not a reverse lookup of the email address. Again, not true at all. I made sure to test this and it's 100% not connected to any application. For one after changing settings as I instruct in the blog post my friend no longer showed up on my list, that confirms (for me at least) that it's this setting that matters. Secondly to disprove your app theory: go to the app and tell me if it says any of your friends are using it, for me it says they aren't yet two of my friends come up in game when I search for them... if they're not using the application and your theory is true how can that be so? | ||
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richard_keats
United States54 Posts
I don't really see why people are complaining about this, FB integration is a really useful feature. | ||
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Ikkath
United Kingdom54 Posts
On July 08 2010 06:21 Kironide wrote: OH NO some of my friends might find me through the SC2 Facebook integration I mean it's not like I want to play games with them or anything right I don't really see why people are complaining about this, FB integration is a really useful feature. Agreed. On July 08 2010 06:20 citricsquid wrote: Again, not true at all. I made sure to test this and it's 100% not connected to any application. For one after changing settings as I instruct in the blog post my friend no longer showed up on my list, that confirms (for me at least) that it's this setting that matters. Secondly to disprove your app theory: go to the app and tell me if it says any of your friends are using it, for me it says they aren't yet two of my friends come up in game when I search for them... if they're not using the application and your theory is true how can that be so? What are you talking about? My facebook email address is DIFFERENT to my battle.net account - so the app is definitely being used to indicate that this account is active. It is the same thing with the xbox live integration (again another different email address for my live account). The email address is not the key - hell just to push my point even further I already had my email privacy settings set to not give it to anyone, yet I can still be found on battle.net. If you are "100% convinced" then how can this work? If I go into the battle.net service app I see the other people that I had added before are still using the app. Honestly I don't think you know what the hell you are talking about here. Read the API and come and try again (since I don't want to believe apriori that Blizzard have a special deal with facebook that just lets them come and grab anything using undocumented API calls). | ||
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PGHammer
United States132 Posts
On July 07 2010 19:30 citricsquid wrote: I feel the same way, for me it's a none issue but there were quite a few people I've seen that stated this was make or break for them, they couldn't risk their boss and/or family finding them, which to me sounds a bit silly but eh, some people have strange lives! Thanks for rules link, I'll check them out  Actually (since unlike a lot of the complainers, I didn't hang out in the original BattleNet), I find the integration with Facebook useful. (Besides, SC2 isn't the first game to have some integration with the social-network portal; it's not by a long shot.) | ||
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PGHammer
United States132 Posts
On July 08 2010 06:25 Ikkath wrote: Agreed. What are you talking about? My facebook email address is DIFFERENT to my battle.net account - so the app is definitely being used to indicate that this account is active. It is the same thing with the xbox live integration (again another different email address for my live account). The email address is not the key - hell just to push my point even further I already had my email privacy settings set to not give it to anyone, yet I can still be found on battle.net. If you are "100% convinced" then how can this work? If I go into the battle.net service app I see the other people that I had added before are still using the app. Honestly I don't think you know what the hell you are talking about here. Read the API and come and try again (since I don't want to believe apriori that Blizzard have a special deal with facebook that just lets them come and grab anything using undocumented API calls). The API calls are not undocumented; it's just that some folks don't read *all* the documentation for those calls. Also, generally if you have multiple e-mail addresses, some how, and in some way, they can be cross-indexed. For example, I have five (not four) e-mail addresses; however, only four are ever used for e-mail (and only three are used regularly; the fourth is dedicated to being a bulk e-mail catcher). They are also all completely different. (My Windows Live ID is also used for XBOX Live; however, it is *not* used for e-mail at all. My four addresses that *are* used for email - ISP, GMail, Yahoo, and Hotmail, are all used for different purposes; GMail is used for bulk e-mail catching, for example.) My Yahoo ID is also used for e-mail (and is my Facebook ID); however, it's not linked directly to anything else. (No, my BNet account is *not* linked to either Yahoo or Facebook; however, if it were linked to one, it would be linked to both.) I've had a Yahoo ID/e-mail address the longest of my five e-mail addresses (in fact, it dates back to my days playing the original BattleChest (now Anthology)). If I *had* played on BNet, I would therefore likely be chased for "remember when" matches from locals that I knew that played on BNet (which could still happen; several of them knew my Yahoo ID, which has remained unchanged). | ||
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Bio
Canada185 Posts
DO IT! | ||
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Ikkath
United Kingdom54 Posts
On July 08 2010 09:00 PGHammer wrote: The API calls are not undocumented; it's just that some folks don't read *all* the documentation for those calls. Also, generally if you have multiple e-mail addresses, some how, and in some way, they can be cross-indexed. For example, I have five (not four) e-mail addresses; however, only four are ever used for e-mail (and only three are used regularly; the fourth is dedicated to being a bulk e-mail catcher). They are also all completely different. (My Windows Live ID is also used for XBOX Live; however, it is *not* used for e-mail at all. My four addresses that *are* used for email - ISP, GMail, Yahoo, and Hotmail, are all used for different purposes; GMail is used for bulk e-mail catching, for example.) My Yahoo ID is also used for e-mail (and is my Facebook ID); however, it's not linked directly to anything else. (No, my BNet account is *not* linked to either Yahoo or Facebook; however, if it were linked to one, it would be linked to both.) I've had a Yahoo ID/e-mail address the longest of my five e-mail addresses (in fact, it dates back to my days playing the original BattleChest (now Anthology)). If I *had* played on BNet, I would therefore likely be chased for "remember when" matches from locals that I knew that played on BNet (which could still happen; several of them knew my Yahoo ID, which has remained unchanged). Ummmm what are you trying to say? That I didn't read all of the API calls - I can assure you that I read all of the ones that focused around the REST and FQL queries. Not so much about the graph API, but it doesn't look like in the area of users it gives anything more than the other API's do. My assertion is that the facebook API only allows "proxy email" addresses that are: a) NOT your actual email address but created uniquely for the application (in this case the battle.net service facebook app) and user pair. They only allow for the developers to send email to friends - the proxy address masks the actual address which is forwarded on by facebook. b) Kept private regardless as it's against the terms and conditions of the facebook platform. If this situation is indeed correct then it is in fact impossible for Blizzard to be looking up people via email matching as some people are supposing. This only leaves the documented and secure way of doing the matching with the "battle.net service" app and related friends.getAppUsers API calls. I am not 100% certain that it isn't happening (though my own evidence suggests you need to have had the application linked to your facebook profile first) as like I say Blizzard may be privvy to different calls other than the documented API. Feel free to go nuts: http://developers.facebook.com/docs/ I am out of this conversation. Facebook integration is a positive thing and I can't be arsed to discuss how it could be implemented with people seemingly ill equipped for such a discussion. It takes too much energy. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On July 08 2010 01:41 DanielD wrote: However it would incredibly naive to think that your profile is only visible to your "friends." I don't want video games to be the first hobby of mine a potential employer sees when they're trying to look up info about me.If you are such a loser that you (think you) need to hide your hobbies from your 'friends' in order for them to like you, find some new friends or grow a pair. Otherwise I don't see why this matters at all. Thank you very much OP. I found this incredibly useful. | ||
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sotmh
United States41 Posts
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sMi.NewB
United States127 Posts
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Playguuu
United States926 Posts
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citricsquid
United Kingdom15 Posts
On July 08 2010 09:48 sotmh wrote: I don't really want to sound alarmist, but if Blizzard is reading my email address when my friends use the battle.net integration, what's to keep them from reading anything else on my profile that my friends can see? Nothing is "stopping" them, but you'd have to ask why they'd want that information. | ||
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[HB]Mess
Denmark37 Posts
I think someone is trying hard to find something to rage about.  | ||
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Akipics
United States45 Posts
This is kind of no brainer. you are the one share your e-mail to people at the first place. | ||
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Inkarnate
Canada840 Posts
If you use the facebook to look for friends, you will stayed 'logged in' to your facebook and other people can find you. Click here to log out and you will not be found. Haven't tested this so hopefully it solves some problems. Cheers | ||
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AbyssV3
United States172 Posts
I believe they have some super secret extra API power to pull a list of emails. Not hard for a large company like Blizzard if they go and talk to Facebook about what they want to do. If not - all they have to do is emulate a web browser, pull up a list of your friends, and scan every single one of their email addresses off their profile. If you give Battle.net your Facebook login information, even if it's not easy for them - they can see EVERYTHING you can see. Add in the ability to check for the application on any friends - solution found - Email + Application based, the best way to make sure they see any and all of their friends that play SC2. I love the feature. I wouldn't mind if they put in an option to hide the ability to be seen though. [] Don't let other's Facebook see my account. | ||
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Noev
United States1105 Posts
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