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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 21:51:57
May 29 2010 21:50 GMT
#1321
On May 30 2010 06:49 love.less wrote:
i think a lot of people are overeacting to a few quotes from a guy who is defo never going to be in charge of any kind of PR for blizzard =]


We are reacting to years of neglect on critical game infrastructure decisions that were very poorly made.

BTW were almost at 3000 voters.

Poll: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

Yes (6508)
 
83%

No (1331)
 
17%

7839 total votes

Your vote: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
May 29 2010 21:53 GMT
#1322
On May 30 2010 06:42 Archerofaiur wrote:They promised semi lan a while back. Now, nope.


Care to post a link to that promise?
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 21:59:00
May 29 2010 21:54 GMT
#1323
On May 30 2010 06:53 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:42 Archerofaiur wrote:They promised semi lan a while back. Now, nope.


Care to post a link to that promise?


Sure.

Battle.net developer Greg Canessa says that Blizzard is actively working on a LAN-like solution to include for Battle.net play in StarCraft II.

"We are working on solutions with regard to things we can do to maintain connectivity to Battle.net in some way, but also provide a great quality connection between players," said Canessa.

Blizzard recently announced that traditional LAN play would not be included in the game, with offline play only being allowed in the singleplayer campaign.

I asked Canessa whether the solution his team is working on might include a pseudo-LAN connection, where the game would only check in with Battle.net to authenticate before reverting to typical LAN behavior.

"Something like that," he replied. "Maintaining a connection with Battle.net, I don't know if it's once or periodically, but then also having a peer-to-peer connection between players to facilitate a very low-ping, high-bandwidth connection.. those are the things that we're working on."

Diablo III lead designer Jay Wilson also confirmed that Diablo III will treat LAN in the same way that StarCraft II does, meaning that while traditional offline LAN will not be included in that game, it should support any Battle.net solution developed for the RTS.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60156


Wonder if they will work as hard on the clan chat channels and cross realm projects.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
May 29 2010 21:55 GMT
#1324
thats far from a promise for lan id say
ReDTerraN
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden88 Posts
May 29 2010 21:58 GMT
#1325
competitve gamming? MY ASS ITS NOT!! T.T
I support the emperor! not false GODS!
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:00:43
May 29 2010 21:59 GMT
#1326
On May 30 2010 06:54 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
]
On May 30 2010 06:53 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:42 Archerofaiur wrote:They promised semi lan a while back. Now, nope.


Care to post a link to that promise?


Sure.


"Something like that," he replied. "Maintaining a connection with Battle.net, I don't know if it's once or periodically, but then also having a peer-to-peer connection between players to facilitate a very low-ping, high-bandwidth connection.. those are the things that we're working on."
-Greg Canessa

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60156


Wonder if they will work as hard on the clan chat channels and cross realm projects.


How on earth do you read that as a promise?
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 29 2010 22:02 GMT
#1327
On May 30 2010 06:59 Longshank wrote:
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On May 30 2010 06:54 Archerofaiur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
]
On May 30 2010 06:53 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:42 Archerofaiur wrote:They promised semi lan a while back. Now, nope.


Care to post a link to that promise?


Sure.


"Something like that," he replied. "Maintaining a connection with Battle.net, I don't know if it's once or periodically, but then also having a peer-to-peer connection between players to facilitate a very low-ping, high-bandwidth connection.. those are the things that we're working on."
-Greg Canessa

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60156


Wonder if they will work as hard on the clan chat channels and cross realm projects.


How on earth do you read that as a promise?



Same way you would interprete what youve heard as a promise that the "Groups" feature will be exactly what you want.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
May 29 2010 22:04 GMT
#1328
this thread started to get to predictible i think its to much fuss over nothing and that response "Same way you would interprete what youve heard as a promise that the "Groups" feature will be exactly what you want." is like.. i know you are, but what am i
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
May 29 2010 22:04 GMT
#1329
On May 30 2010 07:02 Archerofaiur wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 30 2010 06:59 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:54 Archerofaiur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
]
On May 30 2010 06:53 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:42 Archerofaiur wrote:They promised semi lan a while back. Now, nope.


Care to post a link to that promise?


Sure.


"Something like that," he replied. "Maintaining a connection with Battle.net, I don't know if it's once or periodically, but then also having a peer-to-peer connection between players to facilitate a very low-ping, high-bandwidth connection.. those are the things that we're working on."
-Greg Canessa

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60156


Wonder if they will work as hard on the clan chat channels and cross realm projects.


How on earth do you read that as a promise?



Same way you would interprete what youve heard as a promise that the "Groups" feature will be exactly what you want.


No, just no. Saying "there will be..." is a promise. Saying "we're working on..." is not.
fevax
Profile Joined February 2010
Turkey143 Posts
May 29 2010 22:08 GMT
#1330
I think blizzard is taking a very wrong direction with battle net 2.0(0.5 ?) at this point. The biggest being the lack of chatrooms. This takes away the community aspect of the b.net a lot. And I think blizzard is not realizing how important chat rooms are for people to get together and interact with each other.

Another step which I think to be wrong is about custom games. There are a lot of nice steps taken in this direction. But the system at the moment lacks game names, which I think is very important. Here is a suggestion to implement game names easily while not having to alter the current system. When a player clicks join game, he sees available maps. These maps are not necessarily being hosted at that moment. So when a player chooses a map, he either automatically hosts a game or joines a hosted game. My suggested improvement is making a dropdown menu for each map. When a user clicks the dropdown menu button, they see the hosted games of that map but each of those hosted maps has a different name the hosting player chose. Also a password system can also be implemented which is another importan point. I understand that you solve this problem with the friends system, but on special occasions, the friends system might lack. If I should give an example, it would be concerning the "SC2 Beta Key give aways" at Team Liquid. In one of the give aways, TL asked users a question about starcraft. And the answer to that question was the password of a FFA game hosted on brood war. The users who answered the question right qualified to join the game. Aside from this there may be many other occasions a password is required. And in time, the friends list of players might grow too big and they might not want to add aditional people just to be in a custom game with them.

There are many other problems as other people here stated, and I agree with most of them. I hope blizzard realizes all the little drops of water form an ocean and listen more to the community. Adding the disputes with kespa to the direction b.ner is taking, I have doubts seeing blizzard as a company who listens to players but more of a stubborn, lazy and greedy company. I hope you prove me wrong! Thanks for the great games you are producing.
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
May 29 2010 22:09 GMT
#1331
Poll: Are you REALLY going to cancel your preorder?

Yes, until release date when ill purchase from the store (27)
 
60%

No, im not an emo (18)
 
40%

45 total votes

Your vote: Are you REALLY going to cancel your preorder?

(Vote): Yes, until release date when ill purchase from the store
(Vote): No, im not an emo

iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
May 29 2010 22:10 GMT
#1332
Not doing it because I never preordered in the first place, and definitely not buying it either.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:12:39
May 29 2010 22:11 GMT
#1333
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2010 07:09 love.less wrote:
Poll: Are you REALLY going to cancel your preorder?

Yes, until release date when ill purchase from the store (27)
 
60%

No, im not an emo (18)
 
40%

45 total votes

Your vote: Are you REALLY going to cancel your preorder?

(Vote): Yes, until release date when ill purchase from the store
(Vote): No, im not an emo



-_-....
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:14:34
May 29 2010 22:14 GMT
#1334
On May 30 2010 07:04 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 07:02 Archerofaiur wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 30 2010 06:59 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:54 Archerofaiur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
]
On May 30 2010 06:53 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:42 Archerofaiur wrote:They promised semi lan a while back. Now, nope.


Care to post a link to that promise?


Sure.


"Something like that," he replied. "Maintaining a connection with Battle.net, I don't know if it's once or periodically, but then also having a peer-to-peer connection between players to facilitate a very low-ping, high-bandwidth connection.. those are the things that we're working on."
-Greg Canessa

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60156


Wonder if they will work as hard on the clan chat channels and cross realm projects.


How on earth do you read that as a promise?



Same way you would interprete what youve heard as a promise that the "Groups" feature will be exactly what you want.


No, just no. Saying "there will be..." is a promise. Saying "we're working on..." is not.


Dont be naive. Show me a blizzard quote that you think is promised and ill show how they can get out of it.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:15:55
May 29 2010 22:15 GMT
#1335
On May 30 2010 07:09 love.less wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Are you REALLY going to cancel your preorder?

Yes, until release date when ill purchase from the store (27)
 
60%

No, im not an emo (18)
 
40%

45 total votes

Your vote: Are you REALLY going to cancel your preorder?

(Vote): Yes, until release date when ill purchase from the store
(Vote): No, im not an emo


Loaded question. Blizzard Scum
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 29 2010 22:18 GMT
#1336
On May 29 2010 23:40 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 23:32 Zato-1 wrote:
On May 29 2010 23:01 Archerofaiur wrote:
Almost at 2000

Poll: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

Yes (6508)
 
83%

No (1331)
 
17%

7839 total votes

Your vote: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


I can't believe you're going out of your way to kick the developers of this game in the nuts just because one employee made a PR blunder. I just lost a whole lot of respect for you.



"kick the developers in the nuts"????

yah sure man. Far be it for me and so many others of the community to voice our displeasure with the current version of battlenet which is what rating systems are for. I love starcraft not frank pearce, not facebook, not activision blizzard. And I will do everything I can to ensure that Starcraft 2 is the best game possible. Including finding ways for the community to voice to Blizzard our frustration since for some god knows reason they missed it so far.


To be perfectly honest your position kinda reminds me of
+ Show Spoiler +



"LEAVE BLIZZARD ALONE!"

You think I'm fine with what they've done? I'm fucking mad because BNet 2.0 is shaping up to be a POS service I'll have to put up with in order to play SC2. I wish it were different, but if you think you're going to beat Blizzard at a game of chicken and get them to go back on their design plans and implement all these features for BNet 2.0, you're sorely mistaken. All you're going to accomplish by boycotting SC2's Amazon reviews is do a disservice to the kind of person who reads amazon reviews before deciding whether to buy this game or not- read, not us. Read, not the kind of people who care the most about these issues.

You're just dragging a bunch of innocent people into this issue because you're throwing a tantrum and you want to let Blizzard know you're mad. Trust me, I'm mad at them too for making BNet 2.0 such a bad service. But here's the thing: Blizzard's game, Blizzard's rules. They get all the options, all the choices, all the power. You only have one fundamental choice: To buy or not to buy their product. If you hate it so much, don't buy it; maybe even convince others not to buy it. But don't do so on the shitty premise that because BNet 2.0 is terrible, SC2 is a 1-star game.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:24:16
May 29 2010 22:21 GMT
#1337
On May 30 2010 07:14 Archerofaiur wrote:
Dont be naive. Show me a blizzard quote that you think is promised and ill show how they can get out of it.


I don't know why I got into this with you but what you ask is irrelevant. Saying "we're working on pseudo-lan" is not a promise that pseudo-lan will be added no matter how you read it so it's no need for them to get out of it.

But sure just for a laugh, how about "there will be no chat rooms"

edit: this is very OT so I'll let this sillyness be.
StimD
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Norway738 Posts
May 29 2010 22:22 GMT
#1338
man this is so bad. Really have to reconsider purchasing sc2 now..
Hartigan
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
May 29 2010 22:29 GMT
#1339
On May 30 2010 07:22 StimD wrote:
man this is so bad. Really have to reconsider purchasing sc2 now..


yeah I've already pretty much decided on holding off my purchase till some of this changes.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:35:23
May 29 2010 22:33 GMT
#1340
On May 30 2010 07:18 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 23:40 Archerofaiur wrote:
On May 29 2010 23:32 Zato-1 wrote:
On May 29 2010 23:01 Archerofaiur wrote:
Almost at 2000

Poll: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

Yes (6508)
 
83%

No (1331)
 
17%

7839 total votes

Your vote: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


I can't believe you're going out of your way to kick the developers of this game in the nuts just because one employee made a PR blunder. I just lost a whole lot of respect for you.



"kick the developers in the nuts"????

yah sure man. Far be it for me and so many others of the community to voice our displeasure with the current version of battlenet which is what rating systems are for. I love starcraft not frank pearce, not facebook, not activision blizzard. And I will do everything I can to ensure that Starcraft 2 is the best game possible. Including finding ways for the community to voice to Blizzard our frustration since for some god knows reason they missed it so far.


To be perfectly honest your position kinda reminds me of
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


"LEAVE BLIZZARD ALONE!"

You think I'm fine with what they've done? I'm fucking mad because BNet 2.0 is shaping up to be a POS service I'll have to put up with in order to play SC2. I wish it were different, but if you think you're going to beat Blizzard at a game of chicken and get them to go back on their design plans and implement all these features for BNet 2.0, you're sorely mistaken. All you're going to accomplish by boycotting SC2's Amazon reviews is do a disservice to the kind of person who reads amazon reviews before deciding whether to buy this game or not- read, not us. Read, not the kind of people who care the most about these issues.

You're just dragging a bunch of innocent people into this issue because you're throwing a tantrum and you want to let Blizzard know you're mad. Trust me, I'm mad at them too for making BNet 2.0 such a bad service. But here's the thing: Blizzard's game, Blizzard's rules. They get all the options, all the choices, all the power. You only have one fundamental choice: To buy or not to buy their product. If you hate it so much, don't buy it; maybe even convince others not to buy it. But don't do so on the shitty premise that because BNet 2.0 is terrible, SC2 is a 1-star game.



Couple things
-I never promised anything about whether this would get blizzard to do anything
-I never forced anyone to do this ("innocent people" lol)
-Some one looking at the amazon reviews has every right to know what game they are buying.
-They can decide for themselves when they read what we tell them about BNET 2.0
-You can call it immature all you want. This is a issue people feel passionate about and want to do something about.
-If you dont think it will work thats fine thats your conclusion. You dont have to participate.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
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