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Opinion
United States236 Posts
2 Ultras vs 8 Marauders. Cost Ultras 600/400 Marauders 800/200 TEST 1: Attack move, no micro, no upgrades Ultras win, 1 Ultra left standing at 10% life. TEST 2: Very simple micro on the marauders Marauders win, no dead Marauders 2 Ultras w/ 1 Infestor vs 10 Stalkers Cost Ultras w/ Infestor 700/550 Stalkers 1250/500 TEST 1: Frenzied, No micro, no upgrades, Attack move Ultras win, both Ultras still standing with low health TEST 2: Basic micro, no blink, no upgrades Stalkers win, no stalker deaths | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On May 22 2010 09:59 Opinion wrote: UNIT TESTER 2 Ultras vs 8 Marauders. Cost Ultras 600/400 Marauders 800/200 TEST 1: Attack move, no micro, no upgrades Ultras win, 1 Ultra left standing at 10% life. TEST 2: Very simple micro on the marauders Marauders win, no dead Marauders 2 Ultras w/ 1 Infestor vs 10 Stalkers Cost Ultras w/ Infestor 700/550 Stalkers 1250/500 TEST 1: Frenzied, No micro, no upgrades, Attack move Ultras win, both Ultras still standing with low health TEST 2: Basic micro, no blink, no upgrades Stalkers win, no stalker deaths Id like to see this with ultra upgrades and speed. Ultras are really only known for their upgrades, they are pretty useless without them. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On May 22 2010 10:01 Disastorm wrote: Id like to see this with ultra upgrades and speed. Ultras are really only known for their upgrades, they are pretty useless without them. Seriously? Those results look about right, ultras suck. Even with upgrades you can still kite them. I don't see how it makes a difference. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On May 22 2010 09:59 Opinion wrote: UNIT TESTER 2 Ultras vs 8 Marauders. Cost Ultras 600/400 Marauders 800/200 TEST 1: Attack move, no micro, no upgrades Ultras win, 1 Ultra left standing at 10% life. TEST 2: Very simple micro on the marauders Marauders win, no dead Marauders 2 Ultras w/ 1 Infestor vs 10 Stalkers Cost Ultras w/ Infestor 700/550 Stalkers 1250/500 TEST 1: Frenzied, No micro, no upgrades, Attack move Ultras win, both Ultras still standing with low health TEST 2: Basic micro, no blink, no upgrades Stalkers win, no stalker deaths This means nothing though. A zerg with ultras is going to have a bunch of lings, which will get in the way of the stalkers and marauders. The just isnt a tank in starcraft 2. Its a glass cannon. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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Bensio
United Kingdom621 Posts
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25026563075&sid=5000 | ||
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Daedie
Belgium160 Posts
And obviously, instead of testing without upgrades you should test with most of the upgrades, you're bound to have them if you're building your strategy around ultra's. | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
On May 22 2010 09:58 KiWiKaKi wrote: your 2 cents is not even worth a penny har har har, glad to hear you're enjoying the new patch mr manner.  (try playing a race that isn't overpowered to death, THX) | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On May 22 2010 10:05 Bensio wrote: update on the forums from non Blue http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25026563075&sid=5000 not blue = more likely troll then true | ||
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Bensio
United Kingdom621 Posts
Try posting on the forums. The fact the person can post alone convinces me | ||
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Papillon
Germany131 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On May 22 2010 10:11 Bensio wrote: Try posting on the forums. The fact the person can post alone convinces me they still have an identifer in thier name, I am not convinced | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On May 22 2010 10:12 jamesr12 wrote: they still have an identifer in thier name, I am not convinced It's maged. Hes one of the community insiders Blizz keeps around, like Sixen. They usually know whats goin down before we do. | ||
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Opinion
United States236 Posts
On May 22 2010 10:01 Disastorm wrote: Id like to see this with ultra upgrades and speed. Ultras are really only known for their upgrades, they are pretty useless without them. Ok, no problem: FULL UPGRADES 2 Ultras w/ 1 Infester vs 8 Marauders TEST 1: Full upgrades, speed, stim, everything, Attack move, no micro, Frenzy Ultras Win, 1 Ultra alive, 25% health TEST 2: Full upgrades, speed, stim, everything, basic micro, stim, Frenzy Marauders win, 2 dead marauders, (limited area to move due to tester) Edit: I tried to FG but due to the speed of the Ultras and the Marauders i couldn't catch up. By the time i cast FG they were against the far end of the tester area anyways and the Ultras were dead. | ||
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poor newb
United States1879 Posts
On May 22 2010 09:57 fffxc2 wrote: Except it wasn't a buff to the ultralisk. As someone poking in the editor just discovered there was also a stealth nerf to the ultra's aoe splash going from 100% to 33%. After running the numbers, in basically all cases this is a dps nerf to the ultra in addition to the hp nerf. The only buff to the ultra this patch is frenzy. lol really? i'll just make broodlords then | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On May 22 2010 10:15 xBillehx wrote: It's maged. Hes one of the community insiders Blizz keeps around, like Sixen. They usually know whats goin down before we do. ok I am now convinced sad but convinced | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
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roark
United States187 Posts
The thread doesn't take into account the doubling of the attack radius, or the damage bonus of frenzy. Also, to the tester: in a real game your marauaders would get fungal'd to stop the kiting. | ||
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Fruscainte
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Acidlineup
123 Posts
Infested terran for 125 energy when it was before 25 ?!?!? And ALL the stats remained the same? Its obvious its some gimmick for singleplayer game which they fanatically trying to keep, but why not then remove the spell completelly from MP and put something interesting and fresh for overseer?? AGAIN Marauder and marine buffs which is allready deadly unit combo for early game for protoss. Marauder early game is a counter for every single one of gateway units and also not even immortal will help couse they are too slow, too expensive and too late to come in for help AND can be kitted easilly by maras now with EVEN faster upgrades. Wheres is the balance in that? Playin protoss and im now really wondering if im gonna ever win the game against matched opponent when bnet comes online. Maybe its time we all switch to terran??!? Worst patch ever... | ||
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