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On May 11 2010 03:54 Ahzz wrote:
If you want to go there to learn a whole lot more about the game, then it's not worth the money it'll probably require.
If you want to go there for 'some of the experience of living in a pro house', hang out and stuff, then go ahead, but I hope you're rich.
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This is just my opinion, but I think that gosucoaching should give tl.net a part of their profits or something, because it's feeding PROFIT from the community of tl.net with their direct advertisements which seems to have little intention of improving the community.
I mean it's direct advertisement for an 'organization' that is meant to make profit, and which isn't really doing anything out of charity. Just because it has 'starcraft' in it's name doesn't mean we should let all the advertisement slide IMO. I'm 100% cool with advertising donations to send a brood war player to WCG or something, I'm cool with advertising tournaments such as ESL, TSL etc but this isn't cool IMO. Now, I don't know how much they're asking for this gosucamp themselves, and how much profit they're planning to make. For all I know it could be a really fair deal, where the hosts make very minimal profit and everyone had a great time, but I seriously doubt that.
Excuse me. But you know we run 2 weekly tourneys and a weekly showmatch that are ALL geared towards the community right?
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Didn't know David "The Maven" Chicostky played sc2.
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Will you pay the flight from Finland to there?
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On May 11 2010 04:05 Welmu wrote:
Will you pay the flight from Finland to there?
..why even ask this? This is a camp you pay to go to, not the other way around.
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the more sc-player populated colleges and universities should just turn their dorms into this imo
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On May 11 2010 04:00 Zealotdriver wrote:
Why did they choose to locate this in Arizona? I can't think of a worse place inside the US.
Edit: Racist law, high ambient temperatures, neither on either coast nor in the midwest.
It's where most (all?) of them live.
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Anyone thinking of taking up this offer, please do not forget to pack your birth certificate if you are of any other race than Caucasian. Thank you Arizona, for setting the world back 45 years.
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i may just be silly but... couldn't find a price for this...
how much is it?
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Gah Arizona is so far away from Ohio, and I have like zero money right now. If anyone wants to pick be up from Cincinnati and take me there, and pay for whatever of the cost I can't earn/win in the next three weeks, I'm in  . I also think you guys should offer followup coaching as part of the deal, assuming the price is high, it wouldn't hurt to give people who came free followup online coaching to help them continue to improve.
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Did that include a night with Machine ?
<3 Machine
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Do any of the coaches play terran?
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On May 11 2010 04:13 RyanRushia wrote:
i may just be silly but... couldn't find a price for this...
how much is it?
Mods need to come down hard for not reading threads, this is a pretty rampant issue.
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Good idea but the timing is, IMO, going to be an issue. The beta could end at anytime and making arrangements to fly to Arizona could be costly to participants if they do not buy cancellation insurance.
I also think you would have more people biting on this opportunity, perhaps 2 or 3 bookings worth of people, if you decided to wait until after official launch. Alot of WoW kiddies are going to be entering the scene looking for an easy way to get the experience and it seems like you could easily capitalize off that customer base. If you think about how much WoW gold gets bought everyday, the money is going to be spent somewhere if SC2 becomes a leading eSport.
As far as not disclosing the cost of such a weekend, I think it is an error. If people have no clue as to the cost, the amount of people becoming interested in the service would be alot lower than if there was at least a ballpark amount known. People have money and want to spend it without the hassle of receiving a "quote", you have to open the avenue for them to spend it on your services.
The last thing is that importing players to your home to play on their SC2 beta key is against the terms of use. A pillar of a good business is following the laws upheld in the country as well as respecting other business's rights to their property.
"1) copy of the Game for your use on one (1) computer which you own or control at your place of residence for the purpose of testing the Game."
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Austin10831 Posts
To be honest, Inc, I think you're inviting more grief than you're avoiding by not disclosing any pricing information. I think by releasing atleast a ball-park figure, you might find that you'll generate more interest instead of less, as those who are unsure about costs will almost certainly assume on the side of a prohibitive number.
I think many people in this thread are looking at this the wrong way. You can't quantify how much something like this will make you "better" at SC2. They're not going to guarantee that you'll be 20% better at micro or 30% faster while macroing. I think the premise of this "camp" is that you'll arrive, get to play SC2 in a unique environment, benefit from the experience of players better than you, and generally have a nice, fun time for a weekend (assuming you have the type of personality that's compatible with the EG guys).
I don't think it is (or atleast, should be) intended as some sort of boot-camp, where they mold you into a super-soldier, but rather more like space camp, where you're not coming out the other end as an astronaut, but just as someone who had an enjoyable experience.
A bunch of you seem to be laughing at the apparent absurdity of the idea, but I'd wager that the vitality of esports could certainly benefit from more people trying some "absurd" ideas.
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Very interesting concept, I really hope you guys can pull this off and make it a regular thing, you seem to be putting a lot of effort into this whole coaching initiative, and seeing it pay off would probably encourage a lot more people to give it a try.
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On May 11 2010 04:25 Rabbet wrote:
Good idea but the timing is, IMO, going to be an issue. The beta could end at anytime and making arrangements to fly to Arizona could be costly to participants if they do not buy cancellation insurance.
I also think you would have more people biting on this opportunity, perhaps 2 or 3 bookings worth of people, if you decided to wait until after official launch. Alot of WoW kiddies are going to be entering the scene looking for an easy way to get the experience and it seems like you could easily capitalize off that customer base. If you think about how much WoW gold gets bought everyday, the money is going to be spent somewhere if SC2 becomes a leading eSport.
As far as not disclosing the cost of such a weekend, I think it is an error. If people have no clue as to the cost, the amount of people becoming interested in the service would be alot lower than if there was at least a ballpark amount known. People have money and want to spend it without the hassle of receiving a "quote", you have to open the avenue for them to spend it on your services.
The last thing is that importing players to your home to play on their SC2 beta key is against the terms of use. A pillar of a good business is following the laws upheld in the country as well as respecting other business's rights to their property.
"1) copy of the Game for your use on one (1) computer which you own or control at your place of residence for the purpose of testing the Game."
About the last point, they are supposed to bring their own PC to the event. I am not sure if this copyright point applies.
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I went to a gas station/convenience store yesterday to buy some cheetos. I asked the store clerk "how much are these cheetos?" He looked at my worn nikes, white hanes shirt with holes in it, and 5 year old blue jeans and stated "50 cents." I thought it was weird that he gave me a look over before stating the price but I chalked it up to me being very attractive and him being a possible homosexual.
I stayed around to look at the magazine section and to possibly entice a date from the store clerk. I always liked pudgy blondes who are bodybuilding hobbyists.
I noticed a well dressed businessman fill up his bmw with premium gas. I remember him because I thought "wow me and him are so different. I'm relaxing and poor and he's hurried and rich. I have no stress and he's loaded with it." He went up to the counter to pay for his gas.
As he was walking out a bag of cheetos caught his eye. It was the same exact kind that I purchased. I thought "wow I guess we have some similarities." The businessman gave the cheetos to the clerk with no care as to price. The clerk immediately said "two fifty please."
Long story short, the clerk was incontrol.
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On May 11 2010 04:33 SeriousGamer wrote:
I went to a gas station/convenience store yesterday to buy some cheetos. I asked the store clerk "how much are these cheetos?" He looked at my worn nikes, white hanes shirt with holes in it, and 5 year old blue jeans and stated "50 cents." I thought it was weird that he gave me a look over before stating the price but I chalked it up to me being very attractive and him being a possible homosexual.
I stayed around to look at the magazine section and to possible entice a date from the store clerk. I always liked pudgy blondes who are bodybuilding hobbyists.
I noticed a well dressed businessman fill up his bmw with premium gas. I remember him because I thought "wow me and him are so different. I'm relaxing and poor and he's hurried and rich. I have no stress and he's loaded with it." He went up to the counter to pay for his gas.
As he was walking out a bag of cheetos caught his eye. It was the same exact kind that I purchased. He gave it to the clerk with no care as to price. The clerk immediately said "two fifty please."
Long story short, the clerk was incontrol.
Borderline offensive but funny nonetheless.
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On May 11 2010 01:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
A couple things that apparently need to be said:
3. Nope we ain't the best. Nobody said we were.
On May 10 2010 17:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
GOSUCAMP
This camp is designed to give individuals the "progamer house" experience. Full immersion training with some of the best RTS gamers in the United States.
Anyhow, besides Incontrol's obligatory self contradiction this actually sounds really neat and if anyone's willing to pay for it I bet it would be a hell of a fun experience.
And go Kwark! Travel the world, living a simple and modest life free of all possessions except pizza and beer while teaching others the way of the Beta.
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