EPTIncreasing your APM - Page 4
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Bennaya13
United States13 Posts
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GumThief
Canada284 Posts
And spam , yeah. Be thinking ahead-- checking on the status of upgrades, buildings, units etc. Get a good rhythm with your hotkeys.. And you're set | ||
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Stopdroproll
United States101 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 29 2010 07:20 CowGoMoo wrote: Take a FRAPS of yourself playing a normal game. View the FRAPS and identify points where your play is the slowest. Figure out why your being slow at these points and resolve the issues. (Watching a battle? Misclick small units? Panic? Busy thinking not executing? Lack of muscle memory when doing a specific set of actions you do almost every game?) e.g. When you jump into a fight, it should be ingrained in your soul to do something like "1A2E3T5SS6AAAAAtabDDDBSBS11" which would have your army attack moving with Stim + EMP, and then doing a ton of basic macro. You shouldn't really need to think much or at all about this sort of thing. If you have to think about mechanics, your going to have a much lower APM than you could have. I bet if u memorize a string of characters and actions like the one above, you could prob do it with a 300+ APM burst. You can literally practice most of this stuff with an air-keyboard. Also, at some point you will have trouble parsing the information quickly enough, so get used to quickly moving the camera a ton using ctrl groups so your brain gets used to only seeing images for a fraction of a second. (If you play with very low APM, watch an FPVOD of Bisu or Nada and you probably won't be able to follow the game at all because of this) This post literally beats the shit of my post read this please. Everything here is 100% correct. I am too lazy too fraps though I rely on memory to find out when I'm not doing too much. =P | ||
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ChimpyNuts
United Kingdom50 Posts
I just did a practise match where I spammed on purpose and hit 106 on average, I felt I played much better because I was just keeping myself aware, I am gonna try little things like against a Protoss comp they will hav a zealot so I will spawn a Stalker and see how long I can keep running and killing them and managing my base, I managed to kill two before I lost my stalker :p Also other things such as just having my army dance around , just keep moving them and macroing my base, so I get used to just having my army on the move and managing evething! I am going to try and practise just a bit each day , and then see how I do in normal games, and I will let you guys know! | ||
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sup3rchan
Canada127 Posts
My BW apm was around 210, while my SC2 apm is about 150, Protoss high Gold/low Plat player. In BW, I have used several different analysis programs to study my play, and one program considered consistently about 40% of my actions to be "spam", but at the end of the day, I played mechanically better with spamming as a part of my game. Just my two cents. | ||
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Windblade
United States161 Posts
I've played games where my APM went down to 0 and i still won, why? Well because i had plans and was thinking, etc. (im not saying that should happen) point is, just get better and managing your base that's where most of the apm comes from imho - macro. be building probes, expanding, pylons, units, research. honestly my APM would be higher if i would be better at quickly setting up research and unit production. Im not a pro or anything, but this is the advice i have gotten to get better at the game in general. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
the better you get at macro and multitasking the higher your apm will get. apm is a biproduct of skill. | ||
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Marksman
Malaysia523 Posts
On April 29 2010 07:11 Piy wrote: You need to spam. If you want high actions you MUST spam. You MUST spam. It's not a bad thing. Don't feel bad about. APM is not pointless, it does make you a better player if you're faster. Not directly, but trust me, it helps. This is coming from someone that jumped from 200 to 370 apm in BW with 210 eapm. And my skill level skyrocketed in the month where I did that. You should spam. It helps, so much. I only just got my key (yay btw) so I'll use BW as an example. Being able to macro 10 rax SK terran TvZ without needing to try to hard is awesome. Being able to follow 2 groups of vultures + dropships + macro and continue your build is so important. You just have to make fewer concessions if you're fast, since you're capable of doing so much more. imo anyways..... True. spamming generates training for maximum potential APM and stamina. After that you need to focus on techniques in order to reduce time taken to perform an action. Then the benefit is acquired even better You need to ingrain your build order extremely solid to get a boost (I play the Hotkey trainer UMS and i can get APM of 360 but at a normal game beyond the 3-4 minute mark It would drop to 240 because thats where things become random). Knowing the build and timings exact helps with APM (Since it becomes automatic) Getting some high beat music while playing would also help because APM is also part of the mind. Get your body hyped up and you will be playing faster. Exercising more to get stronger stamina would also help  | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
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TheNomad
United States134 Posts
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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Pablols
Chile517 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
for OP, just practice keeping different units in different hotkeys instead of one big blob of 1a. just moving your army will take a bit of apm, and if you're Z, you should never have a lack of things to do like splitting overlords, spreading creep, and puking larvae. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Btw you cannot compare HoN to sc2 at all. Sc2 needs you to pay attention to a lot of stuff at the same time. The pace can change at any given moment (e.g. harrassing, being dropped, engaging in battle...). Since there are so many factors to which you have to pay attention in sc2 you should set a priorities as long as you are not fast enough to do everything at once. And as I already mentioned, macroing should be your first priority. When your macro becomes better you will see a large increase in your winning rate. From then on you can try to polish your skills further and further. As HickleStine already said: You don't increase APM to get better, getting better increases your APM. | ||
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Exteray
United States1094 Posts
On April 29 2010 06:51 selboN wrote: 60-70 apm for platinum >.< Bring skill back to SC plz! Or they just need to create the Pro League which will be top 10 of the current Platinum leaguers. Then I doubt we'll see 60~70 APMers. On the other hand there are good players with relatively low APMs. (Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lz has around 100?) | ||
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
On April 29 2010 06:51 selboN wrote: 60-70 apm for platinum >.< Bring skill back to SC plz! Seriously... People with ~60 APM should not be able to put up a fight with someone with 100+ | ||
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
On April 29 2010 09:31 Exteray wrote: Or they just need to create the Pro League which will be top 10 of the current Platinum leaguers. Then I doubt we'll see 60~70 APMers. On the other hand there are good players with relatively low APMs. (Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lz has around 100?) He's not the only one. Many pro players still roam around 120. Actually many 200 apm situations only exist because of spaming. It really feels like it's much about tactics few about actions. My apm dropped (comparing WC3 with SC2) from 220 avg 400 infight to 100 avg, dunno about infight but it doesn't exceed 200. On April 29 2010 09:32 TwilightStar wrote: Seriously... People with ~60 APM should not be able to put up a fight with someone with 100+ Well, they are. there isn't so much to micro. How many APM do you need to do reaper or hellion harass and build up at the same time? If people wouldn't spam commands such as movement, maybe 120. Like 60 for controlling 2 units and 60 for macroing at the same time. | ||
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