On April 28 2010 18:16 dimfish wrote:
Anyone seeing the placement of starting locations have this buggy effect where it should snap to the grid like buildings, but they appear to be a few units off? Specifically I see the start locations snap into place, but a few units to the south. I think it is causing me two problems.

If anyone can confirm stuff like this I'll go post it on the beta forums, but I'm hoping someone can see whether I'm just screwing it up for myself. So,

1. (Major Problem) A starting location that's well-placed next to resources (minus the slightly-off effect) can cause the actual CC/nexus/hatch to spawn much further away:

Notice the slightly off-to-the-south placement of the start location:
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And in-game the Nexus spawns way off to the right. My best guess is the game decided the slightly-off start location was illegally placed next to minerals and moved it off to a position that no longer conflicts:
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2. (Minor Problem) Conflicting start locations (like the one above) won't render in map image exports.

Since start locations are off-to-the-south-slightly for me, on a symmetric map with a top and bottom start location, one will be slightly further from its resources (notice the small green gap on top of the start location):
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The other start location, with minerals on the southern side, slightly overlaps the resource restriction zone:
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And when I export the map image the slightly ok location appears and the slightly conflicting location has evaporated:
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Ugh. I searched pretty thoroughly but haven't come across anyone else mentioning these problems.

I have no such problem, but I may know a quick fix to this for you. Try to adjust your start locations manually. Select each of them, press enter key, and edit position X and Y so it ends with ".5"

Also try to check if the problem persists in the newly created map. If it doesn't then you messed something up with the map you are making.

Ok, so when I check the properties like you suggested, the X, Y positions already end in ".5" so I guess it's fine. Yeah, I really don't know what's up here.

So far I'm testing the relation to minerals by placing a command center at the location I want the starting point later. It prohibits ressources to be moved closer to the command center than it would be possible ingame. So first I place the minerals, then a command center
that covers the starting location and then I move the ressources so they fit well.

Archerofaiur

United States4101 Posts

April 28 2010 16:46 GMT

#544

I remember the collosus bomb idea from way back when.

InRaged

1047 Posts

April 28 2010 16:56 GMT

#545

On April 29 2010 01:46 Archerofaiur wrote:
I remember the collosus bomb idea from way back when.

My mind hadn't changed since then, I still think it's much cooler =)
And you can't imagine how revealing it was when I finally made it playable haha New Data editor is a huuuuge mess at the moment

Tossi83

Poland24 Posts

April 28 2010 17:14 GMT

#546

On April 29 2010 01:09 dimfish wrote:

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On April 28 2010 19:07 Tossi83 wrote:

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The other start location, with minerals on the southern side, slightly overlaps the resource restriction zone:
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And when I export the map image the slightly ok location appears and the slightly conflicting location has evaporated:
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Ugh. I searched pretty thoroughly but haven't come across anyone else mentioning these problems.

Ok, so when I check the properties like you suggested, the X, Y positions already end in ".5" so I guess it's fine. Yeah, I really don't know what's up here.

Does the problem exists in newly created maps too?

Try to rotate the camera (Ctrl + hold Right Mouse Button). Does it look like the start location move into different position(Is it in the air maybe)? If for some strange reason it ended up in the air try to use "Main menu bar -> Data -> Modify Height Field..." tool. Maybe it will fix the problem.

Also if it will not help try to put map on some server so maybe if I can download it and mess around with it I will be able to locate the problem better.

On April 29 2010 01:20 peckham33 wrote:
that .5 means it is shifted, change them to a solid value and you will be fine

You are wrong, .5 is proper end of coordinate number for properly placed start location. Dont spread missinformation. Check something before you state it as truth, please.

saltygrapes

181 Posts

April 28 2010 19:30 GMT

#547

WIP from my laser tag map ^_^

w1llie

United States7 Posts

April 28 2010 21:14 GMT

#548

Has anyone got building morphing to work? Been trying the last few days and I still can't get it to work. I got the models and everything to show up correctly but the new unit has no abilities or weapons. If I place the new unit with the editor it works fine, though.

Jokey665

United States138 Posts

April 28 2010 21:24 GMT

#549

How do you play these maps in multi? I know you can't do it officially, but I heard there's a workaround. What is it?

InRaged

1047 Posts

April 28 2010 21:31 GMT

#550

Jokey665, both of the players should replace one of the official maps with it and play custom game on it.

Koffiegast

Netherlands346 Posts

April 29 2010 01:02 GMT

#551

Hey guys I got two questions that I'm not really able to find, the first one is probably easiest:
Is it possible to make a pretty generic unit that can be upgraded that heavily uses triggers/scripting? The idea is to have two upgrades that counter each other, for example 'if upgrade 1 is taken, the unit gets a speedbuff but its size is also increased' and the other upgrade the complete opposite of that.

The other question whether it is possible to deform the terrain? To make a hill or valley by an ability? I'm sure blizz would add this as it would be weird if they didnt.. well imo

Thanks

SC2Phoenix

Canada2814 Posts

April 29 2010 02:07 GMT

#552

The other question whether it is possible to deform the terrain? To make a hill or valley by an ability? I'm sure blizz would add this as it would be weird if they didnt.. well imo

This isnt in the editor atm but it will be in at the launch i would imagine

Whyx

United States73 Posts

April 29 2010 05:42 GMT

#553

I told a friend of mine to give me an idea for an UMS. He said to make a platformer...anyone think this is possible with the right triggers?

HyBReD

United States21 Posts

April 29 2010 09:02 GMT

#554

Someone already posted version 1 of my Tech Demo a few pages back. Here's version 2 which has been getting much more praise. :p

dyren

United States260 Posts

April 29 2010 09:16 GMT

#555

Wow... I don't even know what to say that is so amazing.

Orly

Belgium28 Posts

April 29 2010 12:07 GMT

#556

On April 29 2010 18:02 HyBReD wrote:
Someone already posted version 1 of my Tech Demo a few pages back. Here's version 2 which has been getting much more praise. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygjkn1HIoPg&feature=channel

Haha, very awesome stuff!

Is that a render to texture channel for the inventory model? I can't for the life of me figure out how to bind a camera to a RTT channel

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

April 29 2010 12:18 GMT

#557

Can someone help me with my map, it's 64x64 blood bath remake but for some reason it won't let me place minerals outside of this green area (only able to see it from the pathing grid on).

here is the map
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and here is me using the legacy converter on the BW map, which placed minerals outside the green area

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Problem is though, that the BW map doesn't really convert well into an sc2 map design so I had to modify it a bit and the minerals are all off. Not to mention the gasses need to be doubled.

So how do i place outside the green box?

Koffiegast

Netherlands346 Posts

April 29 2010 12:20 GMT

#558

Probably map boundaries

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

April 29 2010 12:23 GMT

#559

On April 25 2010 06:00 Pape wrote:
Blood Bath anyone? :D It had to be done! I added a Xal Naga Tower in the middle that reveals about 1/3 of every base, just to ensure constant action in the middle of the map.

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that's not a 64x64 map and it's not very true to the original

upload to mediafire.com plz

Qikz

United Kingdom12042 Posts

April 29 2010 12:30 GMT

#560

Still looks fun though.

Which you know is what a map is supposed to be.

This is going to sound stupid but how do you actually get to the editor? I can't work out how to open the thing. -.-