Patch 9 Discussion - Page 38

On April 23 2010 05:57 ComradeDover wrote:

Then you have some kind of other unique weird issue. I don't know. Nobody else is complaining about visual studio just in time stuff.

On April 23 2010 05:22 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Feedback has more range than EMP already,

On April 23 2010 05:20 AmstAff wrote:


right now the ghost is more effective than HTs and you get them way faster out than P HTs and you dont need any upgrades to use them.

i would like it if feedback would have at least more range than EMP. its way easier to EMP than feedback and T isnt really microing anything during the fight. EMP+STIM and lets see. P needs to feeback Ghosts (gl to feeback 4 ghost between 80Marauders and some medivacs) drop HTs out of Prism, Guardian shields and starting to FF and then PSI and if you didnt splitted your army or have some keyunits on the same place you are dead anyway.

the only way to win PvT seems to be early aggression or hidden Colossus, because a T can mass vikings so fast its ridiculous and 1 Colossus gets sniped so fast by Marauders that it doesnt make any sense to attack with 1 Colossus (unless you went for some 1 Base Timingattack).

I dont know how to explain but i think its way easier to win TvP if both are equal bad/decent skilled players and the P will have it easier if both are equal good skilled players.

the only thing that doesnt make any sense for me is that T builds 2 Units and i need 4 to have an equal chance to win and same goes for PvZ. all i face is hydra/roach and if the game is longer than 15min or something they just press the Broodlord aka i win button.

imo the biggest problems are marauders and roaches just change HP/Attack of these units. immortals are fine imo i dont build them and if i build them, i build them just to counter roaches/marauders. P has other units that are more effective against anything else, expect these 2, massable, OP units.

For T mech i would like to see first Tanks for 150/75 or 150/100.
For Z i would like to see that spawn larva would just produce 3 Larvas.
For P i would like to see a Cooldown for FF, like HTs have, so that you can just throw 10 FF down at once, if you have 10 sentrys.

On April 23 2010 06:01 Integra wrote:
Next patch they should increase the build time of the immortal by another 5 to 10 seonds. The I'll finally will have a good win-lose ratio against Protoss since they no longer can do their patented "INSTANT 5 IMMORTALS THAT KILLS EVERYTHING LOL."

On April 23 2010 05:29 avilo wrote:
I love how many protoss kids are going haywire over the immortal build time increase. You all knew it was coming, you all abused it to no end with warpgate all-ins into expo -> macro.

Now it is not so easy rofl. And yes, as FA said, even though immortals are of course strong vs mech, no good player just goes only mech, they ghostmech, but siege tanks for 3 supply and 125 gas? Lol?

Blizzard purposely did that because they did not want the tank to be such a central unit like it was in SC1. which is mind boggling, as right now the marauder has pretty much taken that role.

What do people really expect Terrans to make in TvP? Name some viable options other than the marauder. I doubt many P here can name any, because there are very few that are standard/viable in the match-up.

Patch 8, you had to get a lot of marauders early game to survive all of these protoss immortal/warpgate all-ins. Even a 4warpgate sentry all-in with speedlots was stronger than marauders. The concussive change was good, but tanks are still 25 gas and 1 supply too expensive.

oh, and wow, now you guys can't do similar all ins vs Zerg in PvZ. lol.

edit: and btw, stalkers with blink are extremely sexy and mobile omg. I lost to a guy yesterday who went straight stalker blink on kulas and abused being mobile between all 3 starting mineral bases

some people in the beta have trouble realizing that this is a beta, and if something is too powerful and the end-all be all, it is going to be nerfed. Marauder's were nerfed, roaches were nerfed, and now immortals have been nerfed, because all of them were too powerful. You can still use them, it is just not as easy is the key thing.

On April 23 2010 06:08 FrozenArbiter wrote:

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On April 23 2010 06:01 Integra wrote:
Next patch they should increase the build time of the immortal by another 5 to 10 seonds. The I'll finally will have a good win-lose ratio against Protoss since they no longer can do their patented "INSTANT 5 IMMORTALS THAT KILLS EVERYTHING LOL."