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Beta Key Self-Nominators - Page 13
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
This is like the movie Saw... creepy | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
Hot_bid or many you guys should make it that if these keys doesn't get delivered everyone with their name on the list cannot participate on future contest for beta keys =D This would make it more interesting ^^ | ||
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happy:)
9 Posts
On the otherhand, TL wishes to give away the keys to members who DO contribute more to the community and who were missed out on blizzard's invites, which makes it perfectly legitimate for the community to question every individual who feels they deserve a key. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:36 Cheree wrote: a. TL gets a limited number of keys and are trying to find those who are most deserving. Props to them. b. A random person gets a limited number of keys, typically one, and doesn't try to find someone more deserving than themselves. ? On April 17 2010 17:36 ComradeDover wrote: Blizzard's ability to generate an infinite amount of keys is irrelevant if they don't use those powers. So long as there's someone out there who doesn't get a key, the number of keys are limited. Furthermore, if Teamliquid was truly interested in giving keys only to the deserving, these 50 or so keys in question would be handed out on a case-by-case basis to whomever the powers that be decide is deserving, or through more of those contests that have people jump through hoops to prove their worth. Uh, have you seen how many keys Blizzard throws out everyday? Probably 40-60 everyday on Facebook alone. Yeah, some were handed out on a case-by-case basis, some are given through competitions, and some are given to the TLers to determine who deserves the keys. TL gives us a voice in who should get the keys based on what we think. | ||
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Weedman
United States65 Posts
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:37 Kau wrote: Fixed. Oh wait, that fix is a contradiction. That ban was for keeping a level head? I think your self-evaluation is about on par with your self-nomination. Now if only you could withdraw your evaluation the same way you withdrew your nomination. Somehow it doesn't seem to make a difference. I guess editing other people's quotes is what TL gives out their Quality Posters stars out for, eh? Think what you will. I'm not going to get drawn into some kind of pissing match by someone who clearly has an axe to grind with people who think it would be cool to have a beta key of their own. Obviously you're way more involved in this whole thing than I am since I was like the third guy to withdraw, and you bothered to dig through my entire history here at TL over the offense of asking for a key in a thread that stated it was okay to ask a key for in. Respond as you will. Keep pissing in the wind if you'd like. Just don't ask yourself why you smell like asparagus tomorrow morning. | ||
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dtvu
Australia687 Posts
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:40 FragKrag wrote: ? Uh, have you seen how many keys Blizzard throws out everyday? Probably 40-60 everyday on Facebook alone. Yeah, some were handed out on a case-by-case basis, some are given through competitions, and some are given to the TLers to determine who deserves the keys. TL gives us a voice in who should get the keys based on what we think. Right, but how does that invalidate the opinions of those TL members (new or otherwise) who nominate themselves? I don't understand the mindless hate. | ||
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Cheree
Canada123 Posts
Basically, I'm saying those who nominate themselves are individuals who act no differently than the people in case (b) who, btw, compose many of the people objecting to the same selfish behavior they too have carried out behind closed doors. Did every TL member who got a key ask themselves "Is there someone more deserving I can be giving my key to in this community?" Some may have, but I'm pretty sure the majority took it for themselves. And TL isn't exactly selfless either, they're being pretty self-serving by giving keys out to their old-timers and understandably so. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:47 Cheree wrote: Basically, I'm saying those who nominate themselves are individuals who act no differently than the people in case (b) who, btw, compose many of the people objecting to the same selfish behavior they too have carried out behind closed doors. And TL isn't exactly selfless either, they're being pretty self-serving by giving keys out to their old-timers and understandably so. It's not their job to find people better suited for the key, because they got the key either by chance, from a friend, etc. They got a key, they should have fun, play the game, and use it well. TL gets 50 keys to distribute to the community, and needs to make sure that those keys get to the people who will use them well, so that is where the decision arises. The old-timers have contributed, and are probably the most reliable bunch when it comes down to using the keys well and contributing in the future. | ||
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:43 dtvu wrote: My name is not on the list so I don't want one :-P. Anyway only 4 people have put their hands up so far... Looks like no one is going to get it. This could get ugly though with people starting arguing as to why they deserve the key. A lot more than four have. HB just hasn't updated the OP in a while. I wish he would, though... On April 17 2010 17:47 FragKrag wrote: Because obviously the larger majority of TL disagrees with the people who just put down their own name without actually contributing to TL in any way (1 post users). Then they get less nominations than those truly deserving and they don't get a key. The system works. Why the hate? | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
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happy:)
9 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:45 ComradeDover wrote: Right, but how does that invalidate the opinions of those TL members (new or otherwise) who nominate themselves? I don't understand the mindless hate. It doesn't. The fact that people "hate" on the self nominations does not invalidate them, it just means that they believe that the majority of those who nominated themsevles do not deserve a key. Which is just as valid as the opinion of those who nominated themselves and believe they do deserve a key. The difference is that the people who nominated themselves set themselves apart from the masses and can now be subject to public ridicule  | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:48 ComradeDover wrote: Then they get less nominations than those truly deserving and they don't get a key. The system works. Why the hate? uh, a nomination simply throws your name into a bucket for somebody to pull out. Getting 4 nominations generally puts you in no better position than getting 1. | ||
Kau
Canada3500 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:43 ComradeDover wrote: I guess editing other people's quotes is what TL gives out their Quality Posters stars out for, eh? Think what you will. I'm not going to get drawn into some kind of pissing match by someone who clearly has an axe to grind with people who think it would be cool to have a beta key of their own. Obviously you're way more involved in this whole thing than I am since I was like the third guy to withdraw, and you bothered to dig through my entire history here at TL over the offense of asking for a key in a thread that stated it was okay to ask a key for in. Respond as you will. Keep pissing in the wind if you'd like. Just don't ask yourself why you smell like asparagus tomorrow morning. Oh, okay, I understand now. You are one of the people who "think it would be cool" to have a beta key, not one of those people who "think they deserve" a beta key. I see your reasons for opting yourself out now. Good on you. Also you can't just edit other people's quotes. You have to do it right. Like that part where I bold faced my changes. Also I completely took out the bottom lines. That's definitely not how you get a star. What I should have done was crossed it out | ||
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
On April 17 2010 17:52 FragKrag wrote: uh, a nomination simply throws your name into a bucket for somebody to pull out. Getting 4 nominations generally puts you in no better position than getting 1. Somehow I doubt this, but you could be right. I don't know. If it's as you say, however, then that only works to the self-nominator's favor since it's basically a TL version of Blizzard's opt-in process. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
GOD how I wish, i had nominated myself in the other thread when i first saw it, then i could post a clever GIF or something while opting out  | ||
jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
because i nominated myself too but got a few others too... | ||
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Olorin.SVK
Slovakia136 Posts
(there is no way this will work) | ||
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Cheree
Canada123 Posts
It's not their job to find people better suited for the key, because they got the key either by chance, from a friend, etc. They got a key, they should have fun, play the game, and use it well. TL gets 50 keys to distribute to the community, and needs to make sure that those keys get to the people who will use them well, so that is where the decision arises. The old-timers have contributed, and are probably the most reliable bunch when it comes down to using the keys well and contributing in the future. And it's not the member's job to point out who's the most deserving. Many will act just like most TL members acted when they got their key, by being selfish. Why ridicule those who nominated themselves when they're just doing what most people did -- the equivalent of getting a key from blizzard and not giving it to someone more deserving? | ||
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