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ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
April 17 2010 08:58 GMT
#261
On April 17 2010 17:54 TheAntZ wrote:
lol at the retards trying to rationalize nominating themselves


>:[
Bring back 2v2s!
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
April 17 2010 08:59 GMT
#262
On April 17 2010 17:55 jhNz wrote:
wait, the list contains the people who have ONLY ONE nomination - the one by themselves?

because i nominated myself too but got a few others too...


On April 17 2010 16:58 Kau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 16:44 Scorch wrote:
To be quite frank, things would probably be more fair if everyone with <50 posts was auto-crossed off the list. There's certainly lots of them who won't even read this until Monday, and they don't have this sense of solidarity towards TL which would make them regret it if noone got a key. Also, there was already a wave of keys given to deserving new posters.


I believe the list that Hot_Bid is using is from this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119965&currentpage=2

Now, this list does not contain everyone who self-nominated. Kennigit did specify that self-nominations were completely legit, if you thought you were deserving. So it ticked me off that all these undeserving people (mainly "everyone with <50 posts", as you say) self nominated. Of course you could have more posts and still be undeserving, so I tried to include those people too. The problem, however, is that I don't know everyone and what they've done, where they've helped out, stuff like that, so that's why I added that blurb at the top of my post. Anyways, I think it's completely fair that everyone with <50 posts remain on that list, because that's what that list is about. Again, I apologize for any self-nominees that were caught in my line of fire.

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nate_river
Profile Joined April 2010
40 Posts
April 17 2010 09:02 GMT
#263
Stupid contest that humiliates people targeting them as selfish bastards.How the hell someone who is new here can be nominated, why is bad to nominate yourself?





i think in the end the keys will go to the people that cross out themselfs
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
April 17 2010 09:03 GMT
#264
On April 17 2010 17:56 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
It's not their job to find people better suited for the key, because they got the key either by chance, from a friend, etc. They got a key, they should have fun, play the game, and use it well. TL gets 50 keys to distribute to the community, and needs to make sure that those keys get to the people who will use them well, so that is where the decision arises. The old-timers have contributed, and are probably the most reliable bunch when it comes down to using the keys well and contributing in the future.

And it's not the member's job to point out who's the most deserving. Many will act just like most TL members acted when they got their key, by being selfish. Why ridicule those who nominated themselves when they're just doing what most people did -- the equivalent of getting a key from blizzard and not giving it to someone more deserving?

When TL gives the community the task of nominating deserving people for beta beys, then it does become the member's job to nominate. If nobody nominated deserving people, there would be no candidates!

In order to be able to Opt-in for a SC2 key through Blizzard, you must be part of the community, and contribute to Blizzard by buying a game.

Should the same not apply for TL? Why should someone who has not contributed anything or participated in the community get a key from TL?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
April 17 2010 09:04 GMT
#265
Holy shit, late to the party and just saw this... I love TL.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
April 17 2010 09:07 GMT
#266
On April 17 2010 17:59 Kau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 17:55 jhNz wrote:
wait, the list contains the people who have ONLY ONE nomination - the one by themselves?

because i nominated myself too but got a few others too...


Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 16:58 Kau wrote:
On April 17 2010 16:44 Scorch wrote:
To be quite frank, things would probably be more fair if everyone with <50 posts was auto-crossed off the list. There's certainly lots of them who won't even read this until Monday, and they don't have this sense of solidarity towards TL which would make them regret it if noone got a key. Also, there was already a wave of keys given to deserving new posters.


I believe the list that Hot_Bid is using is from this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119965&currentpage=2

Now, this list does not contain everyone who self-nominated. Kennigit did specify that self-nominations were completely legit, if you thought you were deserving. So it ticked me off that all these undeserving people (mainly "everyone with <50 posts", as you say) self nominated. Of course you could have more posts and still be undeserving, so I tried to include those people too. The problem, however, is that I don't know everyone and what they've done, where they've helped out, stuff like that, so that's why I added that blurb at the top of my post. Anyways, I think it's completely fair that everyone with <50 posts remain on that list, because that's what that list is about. Again, I apologize for any self-nominees that were caught in my line of fire.



thanks for that information Kau, didn't see the thread since it was already closed when i came to tl today.
http://twitter.com/jhNz
nglt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States187 Posts
April 17 2010 09:08 GMT
#267
i would have nominated myself, but i knew this was gonna happen. so even though im not among the list , i shall withdraw anyway :p
Cheree
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:12:03
April 17 2010 09:09 GMT
#268
On April 17 2010 18:03 FragKrag wrote:
When TL gives the community the task of nominating deserving people for beta beys, then it does become the member's job to nominate. If nobody nominated deserving people, there would be no candidates!

In order to be able to Opt-in for a SC2 key through Blizzard, you must be part of the community, and contribute to Blizzard by buying a game.

Should the same not apply for TL? Why should someone who has not contributed anything or participated in the community get a key from TL?

Going back to the original example. Let's say Blizzard (or TL) had given out keys to select opt-inners (nominees) and then asked them to keep the keys if they think they're deserving or give them to people who are. You think they would honor that task? Would you? There's no difference. Opting in is like nominating yourself. Whether or not the task of selecting someone deserving is mentioned is irrelevent as few would obey it, at least if there's no public name calling -- there is here though.

And I never said someone who never contributed anything should get a key from TL, I said they shouldn't be ridiculed.
*wants beta*
GaliKo
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada207 Posts
April 17 2010 09:09 GMT
#269
I wasn't one to say I was most deserving and probably due to being tired was compelled to still opt-in saying I could put a key to great use.

So if it help get someone a beta key by all means put a line through my name.

And return to watching Jangbi fail.. horribly.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
April 17 2010 09:12 GMT
#270
On April 17 2010 18:02 nate_river wrote:
Stupid contest that humiliates people targeting them as selfish bastards.How the hell someone who is new here can be nominated, why is bad to nominate yourself?





i think in the end the keys will go to the people that cross out themselfs


*shakes head in confusion*

Now honestly guys, I know their are users from other countries, but honestly, who didn't laugh when reading this post. Honestly. Ah, nothing like a little selfish, indignant rage. The cute spelling mistakes and sentence structure add to the charm. Keep posting Nate!
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
April 17 2010 09:19 GMT
#271
do it people!
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
April 17 2010 09:21 GMT
#272
I think the best way to settle this would be to throw everyone in a pit with a couple broken pool cues. Last man standing gets a key. Day[9] + Diggity commentating.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
April 17 2010 09:22 GMT
#273
I don't want to get a key, delete me
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
April 17 2010 09:23 GMT
#274
On April 17 2010 18:12 Wedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 18:02 nate_river wrote:
Stupid contest that humiliates people targeting them as selfish bastards.How the hell someone who is new here can be nominated, why is bad to nominate yourself?





i think in the end the keys will go to the people that cross out themselfs


*shakes head in confusion*

Now honestly guys, I know their are users from other countries, but honestly, who didn't laugh when reading this post. Honestly. Ah, nothing like a little selfish, indignant rage. The cute spelling mistakes and sentence structure add to the charm. Keep posting Nate!

THERE

that is all.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
April 17 2010 09:24 GMT
#275
On April 17 2010 18:23 integral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 18:12 Wedge wrote:
On April 17 2010 18:02 nate_river wrote:
Stupid contest that humiliates people targeting them as selfish bastards.How the hell someone who is new here can be nominated, why is bad to nominate yourself?





i think in the end the keys will go to the people that cross out themselfs


*shakes head in confusion*

Now honestly guys, I know their are users from other countries, but honestly, who didn't laugh when reading this post. Honestly. Ah, nothing like a little selfish, indignant rage. The cute spelling mistakes and sentence structure add to the charm. Keep posting Nate!

THERE

that is all.



*shakes fist*

Damn you..
vanVidd
Profile Joined December 2008
Norway38 Posts
April 17 2010 09:25 GMT
#276
lol, such an awesome idea. go Hot_Bid! :D
BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:30:40
April 17 2010 09:27 GMT
#277
Wow. Now I wish I had nominated myself just to cross out my name. No-one is getting keys anyway so there is no downside, just to show what a great unselfish guy I am
+ Show Spoiler +
(I am selfish though, it's just beneficial when others think you are not. Machiavelli thing)
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:30:43
April 17 2010 09:30 GMT
#278
If I was on the list I would pull out ASAP becuase its never going to get small enough so that those left all get a key. However there's a good chance this is actually a competition were the real winners are those that selflessly pull out, and they get the keys.
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
April 17 2010 09:34 GMT
#279
Now you guys have ruined it because people won't pull out because they are unselfish anymore, but rather to chance that being the correct assumption. Great job guys you ruined TL's big beta giveaway.
ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
April 17 2010 09:35 GMT
#280
HB already confirmed that there isn't some kind of super-sneaky reverse psychology thing going.
Bring back 2v2s!
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