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hellitsaboutme
Singapore118 Posts
But I think thats because maradeurs are way more cost effective compared to other terran units. Blizzard should've think of that. I've tried new psi storm, it literally sucks. Terran just stims and ran away barely damaged. That skill supposed to counter multiple cheap small units so that opponet didn't mass them. It would force terran to use high level units  | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
With all of their switching of bonus damage to base damage I think they are trying to soften some of the hard counters. Not sure about storm thou. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3140 Posts
Blizzard has so far shown a remarkable ability to respond to feedback and trends fairly quickly. Rest assured, if Protoss is losing too much after this patch, then they will buff Protoss; if HTs aren't used enough, then they will buff HTs; if Roaches aren't used enough, then they will buff Roaches. If anyone can't handle this, then they really shouldn't be in the Beta in the first place. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On March 31 2010 12:54 danl9rm wrote: dude, speedlots are good! they absolutely force terran to get either hellions(and ruin their perfect little mmm force) or more marines(and the more marines terran has, the more vulnerable to coloxen©/storm) There are no speedlots.... | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
chargelots sound stupid | ||
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TFlame
United States25 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
the buff to static defense was much needed tho. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3140 Posts
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
At least increase the total damage to compensate for area reduction. Also if structures were not classified as "armored" they would be more durable. Seems like buildings are way too fragile from the way armies can simply run into expansions and snipe the cc/hatchery/nexus before running back out. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
My suggestion is to keep storm the same, but make the animation smaller. Right now, the storming animation covers a much larger area than it damages and I think that's why people think it's so good. With a smaller area, people don't need to pull back their entire army, they just pull back 4 units. Problem solved. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On March 31 2010 13:17 Plexa wrote: So this stops the fast expand 6-7 rax marauder build TvP how.....? Now marauders need one extra hit to take down photon cannons! YAAAAARRRRRRR | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On March 31 2010 13:14 Chairman Ray wrote: Ok, nerfing storms is the worst thing that they can do. Saying psi storms are overpowered when people deliberately ball up their units is like saying mutas are overpowered when you build nothing but zealots. During a battle when all the units are in a big firing line, storms hits like 4 guys. Now that there are high HP units such as roaches and marauders, I don't see what's the problem in 20 dps for 4 seconds on 4 measly units at the cost of a whopping 150 gas. Let's look at sc1. Storms do 114 damage at a larger radius, and the average unit has less HP. Storms are fair because in competitive play, people don't clump up all their units, or at least try not to. The same thing applies in sc2. My suggestion is to keep storm the same, but make the animation smaller. Right now, the storming animation covers a much larger area than it damages and I think that's why people think it's so good. With a smaller area, people don't need to pull back their entire army, they just pull back 4 units. Problem solved. Please enlighten me on how to not clump all the units? The collision size is so much smaller amongst units accompanied by the fact that most units used are ranged in SC2. Hydras could dodge storm much easier in SC1 and were much cheaper. It's nigh impossible not to attack in a ball, they almost automatically do it, even if you just tell them to run to the enemy. | ||
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
On March 31 2010 13:22 FabledIntegral wrote: Please enlighten me on how to not clump all the units? The collision size is so much smaller amongst units accompanied by the fact that most units used are ranged in SC2. Hydras could dodge storm much easier in SC1 and were much cheaper. It's nigh impossible not to attack in a ball, they almost automatically do it, even if you just tell them to run to the enemy. It's not collision size it's better pathing. SC1 units could potentially clump like SC2 units do, they just don't because the pathing AI makes them scatter or pause a bit. Also the magic box probably had something to do with it. Blizzard really needs to implement some sort of hold-formation+move command and, on a completely unrelated note, bring back F2-F4 screen position hotkeys. | ||
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agorist
United States115 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On March 31 2010 13:31 LunarC wrote: It's not collision size it's better pathing. SC1 units could potentially clump like SC2 units do, they just don't because the pathing AI makes them scatter or pause a bit. Also the magic box probably had something to do with it. Blizzard really needs to implement some sort of hold-formation+move command and, on a completely unrelated note, bring back F2-F4 screen position hotkeys. Units definitely couldn't clump as close in SC1. | ||
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On March 31 2010 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote: Units definitely couldn't clump as close in SC1. It's both really. Collision size and better pathing makes it much harder to split units. Units clump up more due to less collision size, and the removal of the magic box means that units will automatically try to clump up no matter how they are ordered to move. | ||
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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
Banshees pretty much destroy me if i dont fast tech. At the same time they made fast tech mutas vs terran worse, so i m wondering about a good strat atm. | ||
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Yamoth
United States315 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On March 31 2010 13:22 FabledIntegral wrote: Please enlighten me on how to not clump all the units? The collision size is so much smaller amongst units accompanied by the fact that most units used are ranged in SC2. Hydras could dodge storm much easier in SC1 and were much cheaper. It's nigh impossible not to attack in a ball, they almost automatically do it, even if you just tell them to run to the enemy. use multiple control groups? just attack in a couple staggered clumps rather than one giant ball and see what happens, I see top players doing it all the time and it works wonders on both collosi and storm. when you do this your units will naturally make a very nice arc when attacking, which is much harder to storm than the giant ball that you get if you 1a your units in. if you arc correctly, those 150 gas templar can hit... maybe 4 marauders with storm. | ||
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