EPTTT blizzard made sad panda ; (
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1171 Posts
TT blizzard made sad panda ; ( | ||
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
An Immortal Drop + DT warp-in could be a very effective harass to keep a Terran from pushing out with EMP, however I don't know if the timings would necessarily work. | ||
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Daedie
Belgium160 Posts
 ). But does anyone else think that hellions are gonna go from minimal use to pretty much none at all, seeing how fast they'll be shut down by spine crawlers? | ||
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StarcraftMaster
United States84 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:56 c.Deadly wrote: This patch has some interesting implications to the PvT matchup (mostly just through the storm nerf). Do you guys think that Dark Templar might become a more viable tech route in PvT because of this, since HT won't decimate bio armies with 2-3 storms? An Immortal Drop + DT warp-in could be a very effective harass to keep a Terran from pushing out with EMP, however I don't know if the timings would necessarily work. Sensor tower usually solves. But its all hear say anyways, not many terrans besides me have started to use sensor tower in pvt tvz tvt | ||
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lew
Belgium205 Posts
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bendez
Canada283 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 StarBrift wrote: People are saying banshees are a problem in PvT. What the hell? Ever heard of scouting and going for some stalkers? I seriously have never even been close to losing vs banshees as toss. It's an all in build that relies on the toss having either no detection or no anti air. Seeing as how almost any build today include early stalkers AND observers vs terran I don't understand how you can lose ever to banshee. Terran just got a lot stronger vs muta! I'm looking forward to starting to go thors / turrets in my build instead of marines. Marauder / medivac / helion / thor gogogo! >< Viking buff was not enough to make you guys stop bitching about muta, so blizzard throws another bone, rather than working on REAL issues like zerg unit diversity, infestor range/abilities, etc. Yep.. GG. | ||
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Slunk
Germany768 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:55 bendez wrote: I'll shift click your roaches with my overseer, while you try to "micro" burrow. Let's see who wins. Roaches do not deal any damage. They are meatshields. You do not micro meatshields. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:55 asdfTT123 wrote: I simply said competent players can out micro your Stalker/Sentry especially being able to abuse terrain such a cliffs. Did I even imply that you're an incompetent player? Even with Stalkers guarding your mineral lines, it's still very easy to lose workers even if the Stalkers can get a few pot shots off. Phoenix, on the other hand, will drive away the threat completely. Of course Obs are necessary if the T gets cloak and overcommits, but I still find Phoenix to be the best counter when the Banshee numbers grow, especially since you can recycle them to harass the T when the Banshee harass is gone or to lift units in battle. And no need to point fingers regarding who's flaming who and blah blah...I assume you're more mature than the average 2nd grader. Point fingers is certainly not going to get us anywhere, especially online in a forum. teching to phoenix is equally as all in as teching to banshee. you're over committing just to get a unit that cant be attacked by banshees when you could merely macro the army you're going to be getting anyway and use that to defend. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
Nice finaly banshee is no longer a paper plane with powerful attack. I totaly agree with the change about the zerg and about the toss but it's hard to take about the psystorm, more and more this game begin to be boring to watch because blizz nerf everything who is powerful because noob cry about it. It's like the reaver in Sc/Bw whould not do splash dmg because ppl cry about this is too strong | ||
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Koffiegast
Netherlands346 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:34 Irrelevant wrote: Roach upgrade was crazy op(they could literally stand in stacked storm and out heal it), but completely removing the regen is a bit too much Storm didn't stack. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
On March 31 2010 03:54 shindigs wrote: Hopefully we get more diverse zvz play due to the static buff And pvp! Maybe fast forge will actually be a viable build now, stopping 3gate madness. my guess on the banshee buff is to make it still viable to harass along with the static defense buff. Roaches make total sense cause......roaches... | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:58 lew wrote: This shows how egoistic some people are. If you are honest then you agree that storm was OP. I really don't get it why people are crying about it... High Temps need to be powerful or Toss late game will be gimped. But I think the sensible ones here can agree that the AOE it had prior to this patch was OP. | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:42 TerranUp16 wrote: My first thought about the Spine Crawler buff was anti-Hellions although they still die in the same number of hits from it (although it *sounds* like they reduced the cooldown of Spine Crawlers? so that would definitely hurt Hellion harass; only other guess for "attack period" is the time it takes the Spine Crawler to shove its pointy appendage out but 2.2 and 1.6 sound way too long for that and I thought that was treated as more of a missile with a specific animation). Spines take out Hellions in 4 hits instead of 5. And the higher DPS helps. | ||
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:59 Slunk wrote: Roaches do not deal any damage. They are meatshields. You do not micro meatshields. uh, you should! micro's good vs protoss late game, you'll be all suave dodgin storms underground, poppin up, sniping templar, yer! | ||
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FeeL_ThE_RusH
Ireland227 Posts
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:59 mOnion wrote: teching to phoenix is equally as all in as teching to banshee. you're over committing just to get a unit that cant be attacked by banshees when you could merely macro the army you're going to be getting anyway and use that to defend. It's not all in if you make one Stargate for their two Starports + two Tech Labs and cloak research. Also, Phoenix's build fast, especially with chrono boost, making them perfectly adequate each time I've encountered them against a 2 port Banshee user. They're also faster and deal damage quite quickly against them when they're retreating back to their base. You can easily just halt production when they transition out of their harass and use remaining Phoenixes for anything you please later on. | ||
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Antimage
Canada1293 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:58 lew wrote: This shows how egoistic some people are. If you are honest then you agree that storm was OP. I really don't get it why people are crying about it... They are OP in pvt, but useless in pvz, which is a much harder matchup... and now it's even harder! Thanks! | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
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DiTH
Greece116 Posts
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