Nydus too good? - Page 3

On March 09 2010 13:14 jaybrundage wrote:
I really think people are overthinking this its just like a protoss recall but slower and with zerg units. Can't the same strats apply O.o

On March 09 2010 11:56 zealing wrote:
not much to add cause the other posts already cover it but lol at everyone making creep before putting it down shows how logical it would be to have it that way

On March 09 2010 14:12 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
I don't see how it requiring creep is "natural". Granted, I had no idea that it didn't need creep until yesterday, but it does make sense that it can emerge anywhere seeing how it's a hole dug through the ground and out onto the surface. Why does creep need to be involved for that?

On March 09 2010 13:29 MeruFM wrote:

Recall is from the arbitor which is expensive as fuck, can be easily killed, and is at the way tippy point of the tech tree.

On March 09 2010 13:45 Raz0r wrote:
it is a different case for drops, because drops are airborne so as long as you have map control you'll have more chances to anticipate it, but nydus worm can be rigged in the sense that the opposing player has to always constantly check his base, even progamers have a hard time doing this, as you sometimes see dts kill drones mercilessly, with no alerts.

On March 09 2010 14:26 BladeRunner wrote:


I'm confused by this, if you have enough map control to anticipate/counter a drop how come you can't anticipate the unit flying in to spot for the nydus worm? Can you please elaborate?

By the way I really love the new nydus system, I thought it was a good start in the original SC, although I would be open to some tweaks- I think requiring creep is reasonable since you have overlords to drop creep by then anyway, but I would hope the build time would be reduced because of how squishy overlords are.

On March 09 2010 14:37 Kiante wrote:
maybe have a fleet of 3-4 vikings that you initially use for harass, ad late game you use for shutting down nydus's so your army can stay out in the field

On March 09 2010 14:47 GG.Win wrote:



For example, you don't even need an overlord, you can use burrowed roach to spawn the nydus. Another trick is to use a nydus and "queue up" builds (SHIFT + Click). This allows you to build nydus in locations where you don't have vision (you just need initial vision). When the queue comes up, it'll build the nydus regardless of you still having vision of the target location.

These are just possibilities that I came up with in 15 seconds, and I don't even play Zerg. Just wait until someone truly creative comes up with something. It'll be nasty.

On March 09 2010 14:50 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
it's just the new arbiter ffs...

(im terran)

On March 09 2010 14:12 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
I don't see how it requiring creep is "natural". Granted, I had no idea that it didn't need creep until yesterday, but it does make sense that it can emerge anywhere seeing how it's a hole dug through the ground and out onto the surface. Why does creep need to be involved for that?

I think uping the time just a little bit can solve the problem. It's not like it's impossible to counter.

On March 09 2010 14:26 BladeRunner wrote:


I'm confused by this, if you have enough map control to anticipate/counter a drop how come you can't anticipate the unit flying in to spot for the nydus worm? Can you please elaborate?

By the way I really love the new nydus system, I thought it was a good start in the original SC, although I would be open to some tweaks- I think requiring creep is reasonable since you have overlords to drop creep by then anyway, but I would hope the build time would be reduced because of how squishy overlords are.