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I wanna know what you guys think about the hellion model and the thor in SC2. First off we have the hellion, a flame-shooting dune buggy with an aoe attack. I simply think this unit does not fit in with the rest of the Terran army. This might be slightly biased because I thought the vulture model was so terrific...
Thors are, imo, unnecessary. Their slow, they have a ridiculous turning speed for some reason, and they just don't look visually appealing to me at all. I think marines with medivacs are better at countering air than a thor -_-. I have seen very few top notch terran players actually get a thor. If they need anti air they simply go marines and vikings. Overall, I think thors just flat out need to be replaced.
Poll: Should the hellion model be changed? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Poll: Do you like the thor? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
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The Thor needs to be smaller.
It's slow turning speed is it's weakness. The fact that having any more than Two Thors cause them to spazz out when trying to move anywhere is frustrating as fuck, also you have to pull of jeesus simcity to stop them getting stuck in your base
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tank should be more powerful thor should be cheaper and smaller
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I've NEVER liked the Hellion. It looks like a little kids RC car. Just totally plain and uncreative.
As far as the Thor goes, this unit HAD merit when it was more of a super unit, but since then has become tacky and its large size is of no merit.
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On March 08 2010 23:06 iko wrote: The Thor needs to be smaller.
It's slow turning speed is it's weakness. The fact that having any more than Two Thors cause them to spazz out when trying to move anywhere is frustrating as fuck, also you have to pull of jeesus simcity to stop them getting stuck in your base slow turning speed? They turn just as fast as anything else, the movement is slow though. I agree about them getting stuck easily though. In fact tanks get stuck easily too, lot of shit walls when it doesn't seem like it's walling for terran (bunkers/turrets etc).
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Which doesn't make sense to me at all. I mean, I understand that it's a game and none of this has to be purely based in the world of physics, but how could such a large slow unit turn so quickly? lol, just being a little picky, but the thor has many many flaws and I believe that terrans just deserve better antiair.
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I refuse to build Thors. They're a bad joke. Ugly shit.
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I've never liked the idea of the thor. I feel they step on toes with tanks and there is just better anti-air. Either make them more like the goliath (which i dont particularly like) or remove them.
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People (who are in the beta) should comment on Blizzards forum, those two units could use a serious make-over. Also the Collossus looks weird as shit when theres so many of them standing next to each other, or when they're standing over the rest of your army.
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I think a lot of the units could use a tune up or a whole makeover, but I think the thor and hellion deserve special focus right now.
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Whoops, i voted no instead of yes on thors Thors are cool as hell, moving meatshields that can deal the punishment!
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My biggest problem with the Thor is, why does a unit with a name based on Norse mythology speak in a german accent? ;(
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Hellion rapes workers. Thor is a good 'easy button' when you're way ahead.
I see no reason to change this.
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I WANT MY GOLIATH!!!!!! D: Damnit goliath, you were so good in starcraft 1, everyone loved you but you just let yourself go.... and now look at you. All you're good for is reminding us in socal we still have arnold as a governor.
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To me the highlight Thor ability that I haven't seen much of is the 250 mm strike cannons.
The fact is the thor can counter any ground unit 1v1 with that special ability. Immortals...no problems. Ultras....can almost kill one in a single barrage. Collossus...toasted.
The fact that it attacks air is great, but to me this ability is what makes it useful. I would never build an army of thors, they are a support unit, not a mainstay.
As for the hellion, people are finding uses for them, but I'm still not that fan of the concept. But hey, I still remember the days of early SC1 where the vulture was considered a newb unit...no "good" player would dare touch them.
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Blizzard added too many Marine models in the increasing power scale. What I mean is: Marine < Marauder < Viking < Thor
Thor isn't unique at all, unit just feels like a forced attempt to add another "semi-boss" unit, like mothership or new monstrous ultralisk..
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The Thor is fine -_- And it's a fine mainstay unit too.
The Hellion model doesn't bother me, though I wouldn't mind it getting some kind of ability/upgrade.
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But where do thors fit into the terran army? Need anti-air? Why not go marines and medivacs or vikings, they have more mobility and they are easily replaced. Need to defend the ground? Go tanks with hellions or tanks with MMM. Where does the thor fit in?
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On March 08 2010 23:32 Kaniol wrote:Whoops, i voted no instead of yes on thors  Thors are cool as hell, moving meatshields that can deal the punishment!
me too. OP is evil
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Yeah Thors are way to big. Blizzard should smoller them. Helion model is OK with me
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