On March 03 2010 15:47 Atrioc wrote:
yeahhhh
rocking #6 in div2
represent writing staff

are there any replay packs of some of these #1 ranked zergs? I'm seriously wondering how they deal with smart, aggressive protoss players at this level

mutas? what do you mean by smart aggressive protoss play

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

March 03 2010 06:51 GMT

#42

so CowGoMoo is the real SC2 bonjwa?

read that he works at Blizzard

edit: ooooo, Idra #2 in CowGoMoo and David Kim's division

flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts

March 03 2010 06:54 GMT

#43

David Kim is just letting everybody get ahead? He's clearly setting a trap!

0neder

United States3733 Posts

March 03 2010 06:56 GMT

#44

Whoa, who the heck is CowGoMoo and where are VODs? I want good terrans! (although Tag, Psyonic, and LZ are pretty good).

Tsagacity

United States2124 Posts

March 03 2010 06:58 GMT

#45

I want some cowgomoo reps >.< I too would love to see some good terran action.

ShadowDrgn

United States2497 Posts

March 03 2010 07:00 GMT

#46

Cowgomoo already posted a rep pack in the replays thread.

anch

United States5457 Posts

March 03 2010 07:01 GMT

#47

how many of those #1 are TLers?

iCE3

Australia6 Posts

March 03 2010 07:02 GMT

#48

is it possible to watch Overskys replays from SC2?

if so how?

0neder

United States3733 Posts

March 03 2010 07:05 GMT

#49

On March 03 2010 16:00 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Cowgomoo already posted a rep pack in the replays thread.

Don't have beta. =(

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 03 2010 07:10 GMT

#50

On March 03 2010 15:36 ShinyGerbil wrote:
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here you go, division 11 rankings.

lol that frose guy disced on me when I wtfpwned his expo on metalopolis

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 03 2010 07:12 GMT

#51

On March 03 2010 16:02 iCE3 wrote:
is it possible to watch Overskys replays from SC2?

if so how?

he posted 100 reps from a 24 hours straight like a week ago, search for it

Atrioc

United States1865 Posts

March 03 2010 07:13 GMT

#52

On March 03 2010 15:51 StorrZerg wrote:

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mutas? what do you mean by smart aggressive protoss play

haha obviously im making mutas basically every game against Protoss
i didnt get this far without knowing that

but when they 2 gate or agressive 1 gate with constant pressure into proxy pylon and warp gate its very hard to match their output while keeping your economy and tech going to the point where you can get a decent # of mutas.

i've also lost to idra when he takes an early expansion (kulas ravine) and masses sentry + 2 colossus + a few assorted zel/stalker. My usual unit combo of ling/baneling/muta is completely useless against that because he can - with good micro - block all the banelings with the mass sentry force field, defeat the mutas with guardian shield, and obviously clean up the lings with the rest.

obviously the answer in both cases is simply to micro and play better but i'm just wondering if better zergs are finding stronger builds than what i've come up with that pressure or scare the protoss into not doing exactly what they want

Dionyseus

United States2068 Posts

March 03 2010 07:14 GMT

#53

Platinum division 15 just got created. add Xaan.jjo to see that division's ladder.

Disarray

United States1164 Posts

March 03 2010 07:14 GMT

#54

div 11 updated as of this post

also, charlie if you'd like to see other ladders, just have someone (ANYONE) from a division on your friends list, and you can look at your friends ladders whenever you want. (if you want div 11 I'm disarray.disarray

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 03 2010 07:25 GMT

#55

On March 03 2010 16:13 Atrioc wrote:

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bling vs toss? Sounds like a bad idea. I mean they are really only good versus probes and sentries right? (maybe HT).

What I've been using against standard aggressive protoss is basically a little bit of everything. It is very challenging to say the least.

Open with roaches to defend any zealot openings, then get speedlings in anticipation of the toss's next move, which is stalker/sentry/immortal. Use the lings to scout as much as possible. If you see his unit/gate numbers low, get a lair, evo chamber, and hydra den.
He's most likely going pheonix, voidray, or DT. Don't forget to upgrade lord speed and get some overseers too. You need recon ASAP in this matchup, and it's very difficult to get some early on.
Try to secure enough gas and econ while doing this so you can switch to mutas.

Ling/Roach with good micro does pretty damn well vs zeal stalker armies.
Basically what you wanna do is hit and run with the roaches on all his zeals (unless he has charge, then you need to pull front to back over and over), until they are really weakened or the numbers have diminished a little. Then send the lings in to wrap them or the stalkers. Roaches aren't that bad versus stalkers in a straight up fight either.