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David Kim vs Liquid`Tyler (aka NonY) - Page 8

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InterWill
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden117 Posts
February 20 2010 13:27 GMT
#141
On February 20 2010 22:25 7mk wrote:
OK I watched KBH's game, interesting, so thats 1/5 :p
I guess pheonixes are REALLY good against banshees, David Kim was afraid to attack one pheonix when he had 4 banshees to do so.
I hope that doesnt mean that mutalisks suck as soon as protoss has a pheonix

Banshees cannot hit air.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 20 2010 13:30 GMT
#142
On February 20 2010 22:25 7mk wrote:
OK I watched KBH's game, interesting, so thats 1/5 :p
I guess pheonixes are REALLY good against banshees, David Kim was afraid to attack one pheonix when he had 4 banshees to do so.
I hope that doesnt mean that mutalisks suck as soon as protoss has a pheonix

Banshees can only attack ground.

everyone has 100 apm
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
February 20 2010 13:33 GMT
#143
On February 20 2010 20:28 niteReloaded wrote:
Is there any BW-like info on David Kim?
his APM?
did he play SC (or ICCup) lately?

Well, the most noticeable should be that he have probably played the most sc2 games in the world by far.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 20 2010 14:12 GMT
#144
On February 20 2010 20:59 KingHillBilly wrote:
Hmm. I have a replay against davyie too.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/196492/khb-Vs-Dayvie-PvT-Steppes-1-SC2Replay.html



Enjoy!

Ow, can someone awesome please put this on youtube so I can watch? :p
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 20 2010 14:16 GMT
#145
Phoenix works just like building a corsair to scout in pvz in sc1. There was a time when it wasn't completely predictable what z would do and you were in a horrible position not knowing if he was going muta or hydra which is why people built a scouting corsair to fly over their base.

It can harass overlords around the map and in your opponents base since he will have extremely limited anti air. Likely only his queen. It should never die as your scout and get in tons of harass.

I don't know if the spell where it lifts something up is given to you or if you have to train it. But if you get it by default it makes it better than a corsair since you can disable something like the queen and get a surround on it with zealots or whatever.

Granted I haven't played the game but it seems like a very functional unit early game
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 20 2010 14:18 GMT
#146
On February 20 2010 23:16 floor exercise wrote:
Phoenix works just like building a corsair to scout in pvz in sc1. There was a time when it wasn't completely predictable what z would do and you were in a horrible position not knowing if he was going muta or hydra which is why people built a scouting corsair to fly over their base.

It can harass overlords around the map and in your opponents base since he will have extremely limited anti air. Likely only his queen. It should never die as your scout and get in tons of harass.

I don't know if the spell where it lifts something up is given to you or if you have to train it. But if you get it by default it makes it better than a corsair since you can disable something like the queen and get a surround on it with zealots or whatever.

Granted I haven't played the game but it seems like a very functional unit early game


Good post
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 14:23:52
February 20 2010 14:22 GMT
#147
Uploading KHB's game to Youtube now.

Should be up within an hour.

http://www.youtube.com/user/welpday
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 20 2010 14:26 GMT
#148
Man that was a nice build there KHB, did well!
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 20 2010 14:31 GMT
#149
On February 20 2010 22:27 InterWill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 22:25 7mk wrote:
OK I watched KBH's game, interesting, so thats 1/5 :p
I guess pheonixes are REALLY good against banshees, David Kim was afraid to attack one pheonix when he had 4 banshees to do so.
I hope that doesnt mean that mutalisks suck as soon as protoss has a pheonix

Banshees cannot hit air.


lol ok that explains that ^^
and phoenixes were anti air only right?
beep boop
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 20 2010 14:36 GMT
#150
On February 20 2010 23:31 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 22:27 InterWill wrote:
On February 20 2010 22:25 7mk wrote:
OK I watched KBH's game, interesting, so thats 1/5 :p
I guess pheonixes are REALLY good against banshees, David Kim was afraid to attack one pheonix when he had 4 banshees to do so.
I hope that doesnt mean that mutalisks suck as soon as protoss has a pheonix

Banshees cannot hit air.


lol ok that explains that ^^
and phoenixes were anti air only right?

Yeah but they are fast light air so they suck against the big boys (BCs, Carriers, Motherships, Corrupters etc...)
They can also lift non-massive ground units up into the air where they can attack them.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 14:42:51
February 20 2010 14:39 GMT
#151
On February 20 2010 23:12 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 20:59 KingHillBilly wrote:
Hmm. I have a replay against davyie too.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/196492/khb-Vs-Dayvie-PvT-Steppes-1-SC2Replay.html



Enjoy!

Ow, can someone awesome please put this on youtube so I can watch? :p


I agree for people who can't watch it, it's a rly good game, good unit selection by both players.


On February 20 2010 23:36 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 23:31 7mk wrote:
On February 20 2010 22:27 InterWill wrote:
On February 20 2010 22:25 7mk wrote:
OK I watched KBH's game, interesting, so thats 1/5 :p
I guess pheonixes are REALLY good against banshees, David Kim was afraid to attack one pheonix when he had 4 banshees to do so.
I hope that doesnt mean that mutalisks suck as soon as protoss has a pheonix

Banshees cannot hit air.


lol ok that explains that ^^
and phoenixes were anti air only right?

Yeah but they are fast light air so they suck against the big boys (BCs, Carriers, Motherships, Corrupters etc...)
They can also lift non-massive ground units up into the air where they can attack them.


T goes mass maura? just go mass phoenix and lift them one by one :D
I wonder if you can lift siege tanks in siege mode, any one knows?
KingHillBilly
Profile Joined November 2007
United States105 Posts
February 20 2010 14:54 GMT
#152
Yeah you can lift siege tanks in siege mode =-)
Simply the Best
lostshard
Profile Joined July 2009
United States95 Posts
February 20 2010 14:56 GMT
#153
On February 20 2010 19:34 SD-Spirit wrote:
after viewing this rep and few others i am starting to worry about the fact that protos has completely NO ANTI AIR. literely nothing


From the game that was played yes it looks like that.

Sentries are great against mutalisks. Sentries have a fast attack that is both air and ground. Not to mention they have 2 base abilities and 1 trained ability.

Currently they are
Force Field - 50 energy - creates artificial walls that occupy a 3v3 space on the field for 15 sec
Guardian Shield - 75 energy - range 4 shield that protects all friendly units in the radius reducing all ranged damage by 2 for 15 sec
Hallucination - 100 energy - not targetted and can create illusions of the protoss units in different amounts depending on unit type

Force field can be used at the start depending on initial choke to totally close it off or create a bottle neck of 1 unit so that 2-3 of your units can attack the bottleneck. Also you can use force field to push things out of the 3v3 area. If units are position correctly you can lock them down for 15 sec by squishing them into a wall or building (not sure if this is currently intended.

Guardian Shield is what helps it be great against mutalisk. Sentries take down mutas fast due to their attack speed as well as protect the rest of your troops with guardian shield.

Hallucination is the scout and diversion creator. Since you can pick all the units (even those you cant currently create) you can pick a phoenix for a quick scout. Or create a Warp Prism to fake out a drop. Or create 4 fake probes to help surround.

Your not going to want to spam these too much as they are not very durable but the utility they provide will help you support your protoss army




The Insane
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
February 20 2010 15:03 GMT
#154
Thx for the replays, keep it coming please
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 15:09:05
February 20 2010 15:08 GMT
#155
KBH gosu ^^
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
February 20 2010 15:10 GMT
#156
Youtube is not done processing the videos but here is (or will be) KHB vs Dayvie in HD.



Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 20 2010 15:23 GMT
#157
How long until HD is ready? quality is quite bad atm
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
February 20 2010 15:30 GMT
#158
It takes about an hour.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 15:36:26
February 20 2010 15:35 GMT
#159
On February 20 2010 09:24 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 09:22 Pufftrees wrote:
Thanks for sharing, watching it now. How long were you 1st place in Gold before they placed you in Platinum Nony?

I got put straight into Platinum after going 10-0 in placement matches. The placement matches were really easy for me. They involved me building a bunch of probes and building any unit I wanted and attacking.

So basically just like your bw games?

It's so great to have a game people can theory craft on and have it actually mean something. Wish I could play.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
February 20 2010 15:47 GMT
#160
Thanks for the replays, I saw your 10 qualifier matches and they were highly entertaining Nony. As was this game. Its very fun seeing awesome gamers flex their skill in a new environment. Can't wait to see you roll nerds once you have had some practice learning what counters what and where.
Good luck in TSL!
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