Just go to www.livestream.com and create yourself an account. After that, download procaster, select Game on its main page, and begin. Sound goes directly to procaster from your PC, no need for a microphone. Alot of procaster's hotkeys are set to CTRL+# so you may want to alter them a little bit before starting. You can alt+tab out of SCII Beta without fear of the stream stopping, but to your viewers it will appear frozen. So be quick they love to leave when that happens.
After using procaster more often, I have discovered a lot of what I originally posted to be flawed, so just use the above directions, and the below if truly needed.
SC2 Beta picture was copied from another forum thread. I used One Note, and Gimp to do the example photos.
At first I meant for this to be short, but then it turned out to be longer, so maybe this could be a guide/results thread.
On February 24 2010 18:53 pachi wrote: to add a stream to TL, pm sonuvbob and maybe make a stream thread
SADLY, if you don't verify your livestream channel only 50 viewers can watch, and I am always finding 5 out of 5 streams that dont have it. per say.
I know its short, but I have to know, and if it is so... Then the quality on streams for everyone streaming SC2 Beta will increase dramatically. In my previous uses since TL started featuring Live Streams, I went from Pro Caster, to FMLE+Camtasia very fast. But now SC2 Beta is out and it is a 3D game.
In my recent uses, Pro Caster has proved to be amazing for quality and streaming on single player games (Res Evil 5, and Gears of War), WoW, and Warcraft III. Whereas for StarCraft, we would always use the more simple, and obviously better working Live Streaming method. Which was FMLE+Camtasia to stream StarCraft live.
But now SC2 Beta is out and it is also a 3D game, and I do not have it. I am hoping that the current streamers/SC2 beta users will see this. Take it as a Guide/Post Your Results Page. Does Pro Caster work better for SC2, or is FMLE+Camtasia still the best method?
Poll: FMLE+Camtasia, or Pro Caster for SC2 Beta Streaming? (Vote): Pro Caster (Vote): FMLE+Camtasia
I personally believe that if Pro Caster is not a lag problem, that it will take over the FMLE+Camtasia method of streaming for SC2 Beta. The hotkeys are just as simple, there is a HUD that appears bottom left of your screen during the game, that can also be removed. Read these notes, they were added as I was helping people, and discovering new things that were Procaster/SC2 related. None the less however, these notes are quite important. You may just want to Bookmark this guide, and use it as a reference in the future when you encounter new problems.
Note #1: I've noticed some people already using Pro Caster but in windowed mode. I am assuming they are getting the problem that simply won't let them cast with the Game mode that is offered. Because of this, they are stuck using screen mode. This happened to me once or twice, quite a pickle, I never used the screen mode though, I figured it out. I just remember restarting Pro Caster a few times, until I was able to see the HUD that confirms that Pro Caster will run correctly during the game. Such as the HUD in the following pictures.
Note #2: I am watching HuskyTheHusky's and I just heard one of them say they are using Pro Caster to live stream SC2 Beta. So there it is, it does work in Game mode and not only in Screen mode.
Note #3: The game has to be turned on before you will be able to select the Game button. After you have selected it, and if it was successful, then you will see HUD when you go back into the game.
Note #4: When you minimize any 3D game using this method, the streaming program will have to be restarted entirely. Not sure why though. But lets say you lowered SC2 Beta while streaming using the Game setting on Pro Caster. Pro caster would then glitch trying to cast the game while your actually on the desktop, and your Pro Caster will be frozen, and the video will be frozen. So what you must do in order to prevent this from happening, is just Stop the stream while SC2 Beta is still maximized, then you can minimize it. By stopping the stream first, then minimizing the game, you should stop the video from freezing every time you try to alt+tab out of SC2. If you try to minimize the game while streaming. Your stream will freeze. So don't.
[Note #5: In case I have not mentioned it before or in case I don't after this. Procaster needs no alterations. It automatically adjusts itself while streaming live. The only thing thats bad that can happen, is the procaster program sometimes drops and disconnects, because a specific moment was just too much to handle. But that is a 1 out of every 30 stream sessions occurrence. Please note that the HUD will never appear for your viewers, its all completely invisible.
At first the HUD is a view of a green (Stream offline) message that displays features such as: FPS, Show HUD: Ctrl+Alt+N (Default hotkey), Time: 00:00, 2D/3D Mix. Once you've started streaming the HUD color will change to red which means its now online. If you use Show HUD: Ctrl+Alt+N, your HUD will become a semi-chat room where you can see who people are and what they are saying. You cannot speak to people in the chat viewer. However, the HUD can be changed, and lowered. + Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ Minimized HUD] +
But in the Preference-->Game tab, you can remove the display completely. Just select none, then the screen will no longer display the mini-hud in the bottom left. + Show Spoiler [Preferences-->Then select Game] +
Just click the drop-down menu beside Position, and then you can select None to remove the HUD.
I do highly suggest however, that you do a couple of Game setting live streams with the HUD active on Pro Caster. This way you can get used to streaming and turning it on or off. Then you should be fine and able to stream without the HUD.
Just like with FMLE+Camtasia, you will need someone to tell you when it works or not. If you minimize while casting in game mode things get messy. If you don't see the HUD anymore, then you'll have to restart Pro Caster. This way when you maximize SC2 again, the HUD will be on your screen again, indicating it will work as soon as you start the stream. Thing is though, in order to get a friend to help you you will be better off with some type of voice chat, as minimizing SC2 while streaming in Pro Caster using Game mode will be a glitch for Pro Caster Unless you don't mind stopping the stream to minimize & then talk to people in the chat of your live stream channel.
Alright, thanks for listening, hope some BETA gamers at the moment get to see this. Take care, and good luck have fun.
Sorry for not being any help, but I imagine at this particular moment they're all crazy busy streaming. From what I've been watching it looks like mad fun.
Thanks for this. I saw it this morning and my friend is letting me use his beta key, so I am going to try and setup a live cast... I am not a pro player, but if people want to see some features, units, whatever, I am willing (if I get everything setup )
I think I have streaming setup, I have a mic on my headset, but as far as I can tell it is either on or muted. Do you know a way to setup push to talk? Anyways, if someone wants to see something in particular, let me know!
Hey thanks for the guide, wishbones. This really helped me out, I'll be streaming from now on! (Here goes my shameless stream plug) www.livestream.com/jessicajung I hope you enjoy!
On February 19 2010 10:55 sjon03 wrote: Hey thanks for the guide, wishbones. This really helped me out, I'll be streaming from now on! (Here goes my shameless stream plug) www.livestream.com/jessicajung I hope you enjoy!
yeah no prob. if anyone wants to give me a wack at it! lol, jk.
Procaster seems to limit fps of the game to the point that its playable, but its not enjoyable. I have tried change the fps limit in preferences but it does not help. The game runs perfectly on screen casting mode but not game casting mode. How can I get decent FPS whilst casting in game mode?
hm, im not sure maybe if u cud stream for me and we cud see what it is together. It can't be that your doing it wrong, otherwise you wouldn't be able to stream.
Would love to hear how it works out for others that try streaming on justin.tv (maybe if you already have streamed on livestream would love to get a comparison).
On February 24 2010 13:28 CynanMachae wrote: I've tried streaming with Camtasia + FMLE but I had weird black flickering stuff that made it pretty much unwatchable >< Haven't tried Procaster
I'm having the same problem as you when I try to use Camtasia + FMLE.... It's pretty unwatchable, even when I turned the resolution down to 1680x1050. Weird because I swear my PC setup is pwoerful enough to stream it... Hell, I was even streaming Crysis the other day....
It's because camtasia doesn't take into account it's a game and doesn't do anything to take advantage of that. So the larger the resolution you play at the harder it is on the cpu because the cpu is doing all the work this was alright using such a tiny resolution of sc1 and such an old game but it's harder to fly on a demanding game like sc2 Most will find recording at fullscreen using camtasia it will be hard to maintain 30 fps even outside of game.
On February 24 2010 16:36 Virtue wrote: It's because camtasia doesn't take into account it's a game and doesn't do anything to take advantage of that. So the larger the resolution you play at the harder it is on the cpu because the cpu is doing all the work this was alright using such a tiny resolution of sc1 and such an old game but it's harder to fly on a demanding game like sc2 Most will find recording at fullscreen using camtasia it will be hard to maintain 30 fps even outside of game.
Well my game still has like 40-50 fps, whereas camtasia's quality is just horrible. I can't see that it's horrible in game, but everybody on the stream sees it as horrible. Looking at my task manager it doesn't seem like my CPU is being stressed that much either. All "8 virtual cores" are being used on my i7, but they aren't being used over like 30%...
I tried to stream SC2 early on, but I had issues where my mouse lagged and stuff. Am I just going to be unable to stream it due to CPU (or whatever) issues?
On February 25 2010 06:43 Insane wrote: I tried to stream SC2 early on, but I had issues where my mouse lagged and stuff. Am I just going to be unable to stream it due to CPU (or whatever) issues?
yeah probably, what u can do is try streaming a 3d game u have that is not an online game, if it streams perfectly than maybe its your internet :D
On February 24 2010 11:43 no_re wrote: Im trying to stream SC2 with Procaster and get the following message when I try to start broadcasting
"To begin game casting, please open a DirectX or OpenGL game and press CTRL+F1"
(I already have SC2 running and fullscreened)
any ideas?
oh i thought maybe i said it needs to be in GAME mode there are two buttons as soon as any procaster opens up (Screen) (Game) theres your answer any more problems, ill be checking in now that ppl are taking interest, unfortunately a friend who is not really a friend said my thread was very unhelpful. but he was very blind i had to actually screen snapshot and send him stuff over msn he cudnt find out how to take off the HUD on bottom left aahahah. But yeah this is your problem. Cheers.
I'm having audio trouble on my stream. It seems I cant stream both ventrilo (myself and others) AND ingame sound. I'm using a soundmax HD integrated soundcard OR a sennheiser USB card.
Also when I manage to get the ingame sound working, there is alot of noise and buzzing wich isnt very nice to hear.
Anyone that has tips how to get good audio on your stream?
On February 25 2010 06:39 Fungee wrote: What about VHScrCap instead of Camtasia?
The SC community loves Camtasia, but I've never really known why. For all of my streams and friends' streams I help setup I recommend VHScrcap. I love the window selection mode on it and couldn't imagine streaming without it unless I had duel monitors set up.
I was hoping someone could help me with my stream quality. I've been streaming SC2 for about a week now, but my stream quality has dropped after installing Windows 7 Professional. Before Windows 7 Professional I was using Windows 7 Release Candidate. You can watch the on demand videos from my previous streams at www.livestream.com/jessicajung and compare them to the on demand videos from today February 28. Could it be that I am missing codecs that I once had? Or am I simply missing some settings in Procaster? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Just wanted to add that if you are streaming with FMLE and VHSC and trying to get a HD stream (720p or 1080p), VP6 works best for SC2 and use a FPS setting of 15 (You can't even tell when watching the stream). This is how people (like myself www.justin.tv/nebbs4ghz) stream in 1080p with perfect quality. If you want more info I would be happy to post my FMLE config.
Nebbs, that'd be great if you could post your FMLE config if it's not too much trouble. I actually played with the settings some more in Procaster and I think I'm back at the quality I had before. The quality is definitely nowhere near 1080p though!
Thats my current VP6 1080p config that I use to stream on justin.tv with FMLE 3.0 and VHSC.
A few points of interest, the maxfps is 15, this is essential to high quality as the less frames you have to process the less lagg/dropped frames and higher quality those frames can be, quality over quantity =P
Also, the "datarate" or kbps is 1800 because i've found that anything above 2100 and comcast will start "throttling" my bandwidth causing the stream to stop/lag/buffer the "datarate_window" is the amount that the "datarate" is allowed to fluctuate so setting it to small keeps it at around 1800-2000 which is just under my limit.
The "keyframe_frequency" is also important as when I set this to a lower value, it requires more bandwidth because it sends keyframes more frequently which is more data than a usual frame (or at least thats what I've come to believe) and I just don't have that kind of bandwidth.
If you do start to drop a lot of frames constantly (I drop 1 or 2 every now and then but its unnoticeable) then lower the "quality" (you can find the available settings within FME")
Edit I've been trying to select VHScrCap as my video input in FMLE, but I keep getting an empty black box on my screen the size of the resolution I choose for input. Any tips, Nebbs?
I don't have Fraps installed, but I was running the VHScrCapDlg.exe before opening FMLE which I think was causing the problem. I'm still messing with it, making progress (with your help of course)!
If you are using "What You Hear" for your sound in FMLE any program (Like Fraps) that records from that source is going to cause the black screen in FMLE untill you close that program. This has to do with Vista/Win7 DRM shit (I dont understand it completely but I know its a problem).
Edit for clarity: To check if this is the problem, open FMLE and your "Recording Devices" and check to see that the "What you hear" device isn't "Currently unavailable".
I just remembered now after reading your post that FMLE doesn't detect any audio devices on my computer, so I may end up sticking with Procaster ha! But I still want to see the beautiful video stream just to see it. Plus I wouldn't want your efforts in helping me go to waste!
On February 26 2010 02:49 no_re wrote: When streaming SC2 with Procaster the stream keeps going offline whilst im playing, and coming back online, any ideas as to why?
How frequent are the dropouts, you could be trying for more bandwidth than you have, or you have it set higher than the 500kbps that livestream allows for free users, or you just have a bad connect to llvestream
I don't understand why people insist on using livestream when justin.tv allows for practically unlimited KBPS and as many users as you can get.. with a much easier to navigate and more user friendly environment. If its the VOD feature, I'm pretty positive j.tv supports this as well but I don't use it.
i have the video stream going but i cannot get my game sounds to play through the stream. i installed and setup virtual audio cables as i seen in another post but it does not work.
Anyone here have AIM or MSN that i could chat with about this?
Ummm Note 4 is incorrect (At least for me) The stream pauses when you minimize because the opengl/directx app isn't doing anything. When I maximize my stream continues as normal, I've never had to restart it because I minimized.
yeah no ports need to be opened. verification is done thruogh loging in at livestream, and for most people they just need teh default settings, no touching required,
How do you stop the flickering? I have a friend who is trying to stream, but his stream flickers like Hell... he's using VHScrCap and FMLE. It looks nice when it's not flickering though...
Right, so fixing the flickering wasn't that hard after all, but now there are performance issues with SC2 while streaming.
I don't have a bad machine, however, for some reason I get this huge lag when I start the stream. I have already set the settings to lowest possible, but it only helped marginally. Is there some sort of option somewhere that could minimize the resource-hogging of sc2 + fmle + vhscrcap? Thx for answers.
I'm new for streaming but have one problem of the procaster. Why my stream is no voice? no music no sound effects , only what anybody listen is when i'm typing on keyboard or my internet messanger . Anybody can help me with that? maybe settings audio or something - in that i'll mixed up all the setting and it isn't works. ;x
Hey , I've got problems streaming SC2 and I really want to start !! Can someone with knowledge of streaming in SC2 help me out?
Two problems really (one is general): 1) there's really random white square on the top right corner of my stream... NO IDEA WHAT IT IS 2) streaming SC2 lags like fuck, and when I go into full-windows mode (SC2 options) or w/e, I can see my taskbar while in game .
I also have this thing where I go to windowed fullscreen mode, and it displays my taskbar at the bottom, can't really play like that because then mouse scroll doesn't work. Do I need to stream in windowed fullscreen mode?
**tried turning off windowed fullscreen, then my stream started flickering**
When you start recording and you have those bars that block scrolling, do the following:
1. Zoom in a few times, then back out to maximum. That changes the green bars to little black ones for some reason. Once you have the black bars...
2. When you enter an ACTUAL game, alt tab out to another application, maximize it, then go back to SC2. The bars should be gone and scrolling should work.
This works for me in Windows 7 using Procaster in Screen mode, SC2 in Windowed Fullscreen
hi im having problem with livestream chat, it was working but it suddenly went to all white now and i cant see chat / every screen but the first one is all white, and livestream.com rejects my verification submissions every time, happend twice now, why is this ?
On February 24 2010 11:43 no_re wrote: Im trying to stream SC2 with Procaster and get the following message when I try to start broadcasting
"To begin game casting, please open a DirectX or OpenGL game and press CTRL+F1"
(I already have SC2 running and fullscreened)
any ideas?
Me and a friend both have this exact problem... someone help plz.
And switching to screen mode isn't a good alternative... the stream flashes very rapidly w/ screen mode.
Try opening SC2 after clicking game and then while in SC2 press CTRL+F1.
tried that and didn't work, still gave me that error.
I had this problem a lot, if you go into task manager (Control Alt Delete) do to processes, find procaster and terminate it. After that open up SC then Procaster :D
The thread kinda lost me a bit, if anyone have a time to help me with a complete set up so i can stream sc2, would be great. Below is my connect speed information i would like to stream in the best quality as possible (1080p) if possible.
I've tried livestreaming and everything is working perfect. I just have 2 questions. Is there a way to remove old on-demand videos? I have some testing videos that I would like to remove.
Also, is there a way to remove sound recording of Ventrilo but keep recording of itunes + Starcraft 2? I can remove my mic which stops recording of me speaking but is there a way to remove ventrilo so that it doesn't stream my friends talking?
Thanks for the guide. Having a problem getting the sound to stream though... I get picture but no sound. I use a wireless headset. I can get voice to stream from the mic but no sounds from the computer will play through. I've tried every audio source in the procaster options. Is it even possible to stream the sounds from the PC with a headset and no (real) sound card?
On May 07 2010 07:46 enr4ged wrote: Thanks for the guide. Having a problem getting the sound to stream though... I get picture but no sound. I use a wireless headset. I can get voice to stream from the mic but no sounds from the computer will play through. I've tried every audio source in the procaster options. Is it even possible to stream the sounds from the PC with a headset and no (real) sound card?
Well sounds coming from the PC should directly go to Procaster, without any changes. I do not know what is wrong on your end, try uninstalling and reinstalling procaster for its default settings although thats annoying. I have factory sound ports that came with my Dell PC, so it should be fine. Maybe the built in sound ports are not good enough. Someone more techy could help you here. Heres hoping they see it.
Hey I got a few things with the stream i started up a few hours ago. I run a dual screen but the casting always starts on the wrong screen. I have to make it smaller and drag it to the other screan. I also wonder if you can delay the stream by lets say 1 minute or less. I might be streaming some rushpoker on fulltilt. rushpoker is poker on 50 tables and as soon as you fold you immidiatly get a new hand. So there's no chance to exploit too mutch. Furthermore I currently tried window(maximized) since I can easily acces the other monithor. Is there any use in using fullscreen mode over windowed ? GPU''s can easily handle windowed and I don't believe there is a quality difference is there ?
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