EPTAfter using procaster more often, I have discovered a lot of what I originally posted to be flawed, so just use the above directions, and the below if truly needed.
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SC2 Beta picture was copied from another forum thread. I used One Note, and Gimp to do the example photos.
At first I meant for this to be short, but then it turned out to be longer, so maybe this could be a guide/results thread.
SADLY, if you don't verify your livestream channel only 50 viewers can watch, and I am always finding 5 out of 5 streams that dont have it. per say.
I know its short, but I have to know, and if it is so... Then the quality on streams for everyone streaming SC2 Beta will increase dramatically. In my previous uses since TL started featuring Live Streams, I went from Pro Caster, to FMLE+Camtasia very fast. But now SC2 Beta is out and it is a 3D game.
In my recent uses, Pro Caster has proved to be amazing for quality and streaming on single player games (Res Evil 5, and Gears of War), WoW, and Warcraft III. Whereas for StarCraft, we would always use the more simple, and obviously better working Live Streaming method. Which was FMLE+Camtasia to stream StarCraft live.
But now SC2 Beta is out and it is also a 3D game, and I do not have it. I am hoping that the current streamers/SC2 beta users will see this. Take it as a Guide/Post Your Results Page.
Does Pro Caster work better for SC2, or is FMLE+Camtasia still the best method?
![[image loading]](/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8084)
Poll: FMLE+Camtasia, or Pro Caster for SC2 Beta Streaming?
(Vote): Pro Caster
(Vote): FMLE+Camtasia
I personally believe that if Pro Caster is not a lag problem, that it will take over the FMLE+Camtasia method of streaming for SC2 Beta. The hotkeys are just as simple, there is a HUD that appears bottom left of your screen during the game, that can also be removed.
Read these notes, they were added as I was helping people, and discovering new things that were Procaster/SC2 related. None the less however, these notes are quite important. You may just want to Bookmark this guide, and use it as a reference in the future when you encounter new problems.
Note #1: I've noticed some people already using Pro Caster but in windowed mode. I am assuming they are getting the problem that simply won't let them cast with the Game mode that is offered. Because of this, they are stuck using screen mode. This happened to me once or twice, quite a pickle, I never used the screen mode though, I figured it out. I just remember restarting Pro Caster a few times, until I was able to see the HUD that confirms that Pro Caster will run correctly during the game. Such as the HUD in the following pictures.
Note #2: I am watching HuskyTheHusky's and I just heard one of them say they are using Pro Caster to live stream SC2 Beta. So there it is, it does work in Game mode and not only in Screen mode.
Note #3: The game has to be turned on before you will be able to select the Game button. After you have selected it, and if it was successful, then you will see HUD when you go back into the game.
Note #4: When you minimize any 3D game using this method, the streaming program will have to be restarted entirely. Not sure why though. But lets say you lowered SC2 Beta while streaming using the Game setting on Pro Caster. Pro caster would then glitch trying to cast the game while your actually on the desktop, and your Pro Caster will be frozen, and the video will be frozen. So what you must do in order to prevent this from happening, is just Stop the stream while SC2 Beta is still maximized, then you can minimize it. By stopping the stream first, then minimizing the game, you should stop the video from freezing every time you try to alt+tab out of SC2. If you try to minimize the game while streaming. Your stream will freeze. So don't.
[Note #5: In case I have not mentioned it before or in case I don't after this. Procaster needs no alterations. It automatically adjusts itself while streaming live. The only thing thats bad that can happen, is the procaster program sometimes drops and disconnects, because a specific moment was just too much to handle. But that is a 1 out of every 30 stream sessions occurrence.
Please note that the HUD will never appear for your viewers, its all completely invisible.
+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ Maximized HUD] +![[image loading]](http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4029/sc2startingwithmaxhud.png)
At first the HUD is a view of a green (Stream offline) message that displays features such as: FPS, Show HUD: Ctrl+Alt+N (Default hotkey), Time: 00:00, 2D/3D Mix. Once you've started streaming the HUD color will change to red which means its now online. If you use Show HUD: Ctrl+Alt+N, your HUD will become a semi-chat room where you can see who people are and what they are saying. You cannot speak to people in the chat viewer. However, the HUD can be changed, and lowered.
+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ Minimized HUD] +![[image loading]](http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/804/sc2startingwithhud.png)
But in the Preference-->Game tab, you can remove the display completely. Just select none, then the screen will no longer display the mini-hud in the bottom left.
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I do highly suggest however, that you do a couple of Game setting live streams with the HUD active on Pro Caster. This way you can get used to streaming and turning it on or off. Then you should be fine and able to stream without the HUD.
After selecting none in the above instance, you will then see this.
+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ hidden HUD] +![[image loading]](http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/593/sc2starting.png)
Just like with FMLE+Camtasia, you will need someone to tell you when it works or not. If you minimize while casting in game mode things get messy. If you don't see the HUD anymore, then you'll have to restart Pro Caster. This way when you maximize SC2 again, the HUD will be on your screen again, indicating it will work as soon as you start the stream. Thing is though, in order to get a friend to help you you will be better off with some type of voice chat, as minimizing SC2 while streaming in Pro Caster using Game mode will be a glitch for Pro Caster Unless you don't mind stopping the stream to minimize & then talk to people in the chat of your live stream channel.
Alright, thanks for listening, hope some BETA gamers at the moment get to see this. Take care, and good luck have fun.
At first I meant for this to be short, but then it turned out to be longer, so maybe this could be a guide/results thread.
On February 24 2010 18:53 pachi wrote:
to add a stream to TL, pm sonuvbob and maybe make a stream thread
to add a stream to TL, pm sonuvbob and maybe make a stream thread
SADLY, if you don't verify your livestream channel only 50 viewers can watch, and I am always finding 5 out of 5 streams that dont have it. per say.
I know its short, but I have to know, and if it is so... Then the quality on streams for everyone streaming SC2 Beta will increase dramatically. In my previous uses since TL started featuring Live Streams, I went from Pro Caster, to FMLE+Camtasia very fast. But now SC2 Beta is out and it is a 3D game.
In my recent uses, Pro Caster has proved to be amazing for quality and streaming on single player games (Res Evil 5, and Gears of War), WoW, and Warcraft III. Whereas for StarCraft, we would always use the more simple, and obviously better working Live Streaming method. Which was FMLE+Camtasia to stream StarCraft live.
But now SC2 Beta is out and it is also a 3D game, and I do not have it. I am hoping that the current streamers/SC2 beta users will see this. Take it as a Guide/Post Your Results Page.
Does Pro Caster work better for SC2, or is FMLE+Camtasia still the best method?
Poll: FMLE+Camtasia, or Pro Caster for SC2 Beta Streaming?
(Vote): Pro Caster
(Vote): FMLE+Camtasia
I personally believe that if Pro Caster is not a lag problem, that it will take over the FMLE+Camtasia method of streaming for SC2 Beta. The hotkeys are just as simple, there is a HUD that appears bottom left of your screen during the game, that can also be removed.
Read these notes, they were added as I was helping people, and discovering new things that were Procaster/SC2 related. None the less however, these notes are quite important. You may just want to Bookmark this guide, and use it as a reference in the future when you encounter new problems.
Note #1: I've noticed some people already using Pro Caster but in windowed mode. I am assuming they are getting the problem that simply won't let them cast with the Game mode that is offered. Because of this, they are stuck using screen mode. This happened to me once or twice, quite a pickle, I never used the screen mode though, I figured it out. I just remember restarting Pro Caster a few times, until I was able to see the HUD that confirms that Pro Caster will run correctly during the game. Such as the HUD in the following pictures.
Note #2: I am watching HuskyTheHusky's and I just heard one of them say they are using Pro Caster to live stream SC2 Beta. So there it is, it does work in Game mode and not only in Screen mode.
Note #3: The game has to be turned on before you will be able to select the Game button. After you have selected it, and if it was successful, then you will see HUD when you go back into the game.
Note #4: When you minimize any 3D game using this method, the streaming program will have to be restarted entirely. Not sure why though. But lets say you lowered SC2 Beta while streaming using the Game setting on Pro Caster. Pro caster would then glitch trying to cast the game while your actually on the desktop, and your Pro Caster will be frozen, and the video will be frozen. So what you must do in order to prevent this from happening, is just Stop the stream while SC2 Beta is still maximized, then you can minimize it. By stopping the stream first, then minimizing the game, you should stop the video from freezing every time you try to alt+tab out of SC2. If you try to minimize the game while streaming. Your stream will freeze. So don't.
[Note #5: In case I have not mentioned it before or in case I don't after this. Procaster needs no alterations. It automatically adjusts itself while streaming live. The only thing thats bad that can happen, is the procaster program sometimes drops and disconnects, because a specific moment was just too much to handle. But that is a 1 out of every 30 stream sessions occurrence.
Please note that the HUD will never appear for your viewers, its all completely invisible.
+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ Maximized HUD] +
+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ Minimized HUD] +
But in the Preference-->Game tab, you can remove the display completely. Just select none, then the screen will no longer display the mini-hud in the bottom left.
+ Show Spoiler [Preferences-->Then select Game] +
Just click the drop-down menu beside Position, and then you can select None to remove the HUD.![[image loading]](http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8986/procasterstatusnone.png)
I do highly suggest however, that you do a couple of Game setting live streams with the HUD active on Pro Caster. This way you can get used to streaming and turning it on or off. Then you should be fine and able to stream without the HUD.
After selecting none in the above instance, you will then see this.
+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Beta+Pro Caster w/ hidden HUD] +
Just like with FMLE+Camtasia, you will need someone to tell you when it works or not. If you minimize while casting in game mode things get messy. If you don't see the HUD anymore, then you'll have to restart Pro Caster. This way when you maximize SC2 again, the HUD will be on your screen again, indicating it will work as soon as you start the stream. Thing is though, in order to get a friend to help you you will be better off with some type of voice chat, as minimizing SC2 while streaming in Pro Caster using Game mode will be a glitch for Pro Caster Unless you don't mind stopping the stream to minimize & then talk to people in the chat of your live stream channel.
Alright, thanks for listening, hope some BETA gamers at the moment get to see this. Take care, and good luck have fun.
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