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On February 18 2010 13:55 7Strife wrote: The beta is going to leak through torrents quickly, so everyone will play. In fact, it already has. Yes, my friend downloaded it :O but it needs a registration key or something, and while I hope nothing gets leaked, we'll just have to see.
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It doesn't look as crisp as sc1 was. It looks like it more difficult to tell what is going on from watching the streams which is kinda more WC3 like.
It's beta though so... no worries I hope.
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On February 18 2010 09:36 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 09:33 Skyze wrote:On February 18 2010 09:21 Kenpachi wrote:On February 18 2010 09:14 StoLiVe wrote: its seems ez because there is only war3 player and they suck
so for the few starcraft player it's so ez
wait for later after few new invite it hurts to see war3 players get the key but not SC. WE ARE MORE DESERVING  it'll be funny to see all the war3 players dominating the top 20 US ladder spots in afew weeks. Bank on it. At least 90%. Its the WOW players playing right now that sucks, its no question the War3 players are probably owning SC/BW players right now. based on what?
i think this is largely based on the fact that SC2 incorporates many of the rts improvements/advancements that we saw in wc3 in terms of being able to queue commands via holding the shift key, mbs, automine, and stuff like that. In general, wc3 players are use to that, and it will take bw players some time to adjust to it.
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Is it me or is the game too easy? All the things us SC players use our APM for have gone down the gutter :[
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On February 18 2010 14:05 ed21x wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 09:36 torm3ntin wrote:On February 18 2010 09:33 Skyze wrote:On February 18 2010 09:21 Kenpachi wrote:On February 18 2010 09:14 StoLiVe wrote: its seems ez because there is only war3 player and they suck
so for the few starcraft player it's so ez
wait for later after few new invite it hurts to see war3 players get the key but not SC. WE ARE MORE DESERVING  it'll be funny to see all the war3 players dominating the top 20 US ladder spots in afew weeks. Bank on it. At least 90%. Its the WOW players playing right now that sucks, its no question the War3 players are probably owning SC/BW players right now. based on what? i think this is largely based on the fact that SC2 incorporates many of the rts improvements/advancements that we saw in wc3 in terms of being able to queue commands via holding the shift key, mbs, automine, and stuff like that. In general, wc3 players are use to that, and it will take bw players some time to adjust to it. Yeah because it's easier to macro SC players are going to be like "wtf! I have so much extra free apm ! I don't know what to do!!" and we'll all lose straight up, damn those wc3 players and their extra experience with extra apm, damn them all!
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On February 18 2010 15:08 superbabosheki wrote: Is it me or is the game too easy? All the things us SC players use our APM for have gone down the gutter :[ Is this based on having played the game, or from watching streams of people stomping obvious newbies?
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It looks like both micro and macro have been reduced to bare skin. Teching seems to be a lot faster now. Overall, I think SC2 is battle of the build orders, simply rock-paper-scissors.
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On February 18 2010 13:55 7Strife wrote: The beta is going to leak through torrents quickly, so everyone will play. In fact, it already has. Dun u need a valid key to play on B.net though?
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On February 18 2010 15:11 Chairman Ray wrote: It looks like both micro and macro have been reduced to bare skin. Teching seems to be a lot faster now. Overall, I think SC2 is battle of the build orders, simply rock-paper-scissors. Because clearly when you take out micro and macro, all that's left is build orders?
Clearly map awareness, timing sense, and general on-the-spot decision making don't mean anything?
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We won't know what sc plays like, what is imbalanced etc. for a couple months. Even then, we won't know for sure.
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On February 18 2010 09:13 Foreplay wrote: from what ive seen on the stream it looks like SC but really really really easy
Well when you played the prequel to the game you're watching it might look a tad bit easier.
On February 18 2010 10:03 eMbrace wrote: Loving the SC elitism here on TL.
Yah i know what you mean.
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On February 18 2010 13:59 Jonoman92 wrote: It doesn't look as crisp as sc1 was. It looks like it more difficult to tell what is going on from watching the streams which is kinda more WC3 like.
It's beta though so... no worries I hope.
This
In a large zergling battle on creep it's so hard to tell who's unit is who and what's going on (on the stream i was just watching).
Maybe it's due to quality, or maybe just cause im not used to it.
Only time will tell.
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played 10 games. I say: It's 100% a new game and 100% a worthy sequel. I'm having a blast. Must go now, very busy.
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On February 18 2010 15:33 SouLja wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 13:59 Jonoman92 wrote: It doesn't look as crisp as sc1 was. It looks like it more difficult to tell what is going on from watching the streams which is kinda more WC3 like.
It's beta though so... no worries I hope. This In a large zergling battle on creep it's so hard to tell who's unit is who and what's going on (on the stream i was just watching). Maybe it's due to quality, or maybe just cause im not used to it. Only time will tell. Yeah ZvZ is really a cluster ball of brown. I can't tell wtf going on in a ZvZ. PvP can be like that at times too when its zealot vs zealot. All th other matchups however I can tell whats going on pretty damn well.
EDIT: on a side note I am seeing peoples minerals often spiking into the 1-2k range!!! So there clearly room to improve macro lol. I don't know what stream people are watching were someones had this easy perfect macro every game.
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I have only played 2 games but I'm liking it pretty hardcore already. Hopefully that will not change. I also think the majority of players really like it. If so, that is of course a great sign.
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On February 18 2010 15:11 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 15:08 superbabosheki wrote: Is it me or is the game too easy? All the things us SC players use our APM for have gone down the gutter :[ Is this based on having played the game, or from watching streams of people stomping obvious newbies? I'm basing this on the fact that it is a fact. Huge armies in one control group(less micro, less 1click2cick3click4click just to move around which is less multitask), multiple building selection(less macro, obvious reasons). It is MY opinion that the multitask for sc2 is significantly lower than sc1, hopefully a few betakey holders can confirm this.
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yeah zergling vs zergling battles need to be made more clear. it's too hard to tell anything.
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I agree with the "hard to distinguish" part. That's really bad for e-sport spectators.. I don't understand how Blizzard could have missed this. They obviously know SC is famous and the biggest e-sport out there. Yet, they created game with artwork that is nearly impossible to distinguish colors and very confusing to watch. It's still hard for me to even tell what race a color is sometimes. There's too much generic color schemes on the units
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Why would you want it to play like SC:BW?
If you want to play SC:BW, go play SC:BW. I'm however extremely excited about this new game called Starcraft 2. It has features like cliff-walking and LoS emphasis.
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Maybe because SC BW is the game we have loved for the past 11 years and the fact that this is a SEQUEL. Gameplay should be similar(which it is) with better graphics(which it has). I'm just stating that this game seems to requires far less skill than BW which disappoints me. Don't take this the wrong way, I am very excited to play this game and will be purchasing as soon as it released.
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