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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 31 2011 03:48 GMT
#18501
On May 31 2011 12:07 leova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 12:02 DeltruS wrote:
Afaik day9 has no way of telling if people are only using their mouse or not.


...except actually looking at the replay, perhaps?
if the mouse moves to the minimap but the ingame view changes from Barracks->Army->CC, then obviously a keyboard was used...


You can use the mouse to macro back at your base without the view being there, since you can still use control groups. I think DeltruS is technically right in that it'd be impossible to tell between a player who's just kind of bad and someone only using their mouse. I just played a game against my friend who's Bronze (I'm plat), and from the replay, it looks like we both just had bad mechanics/APM.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 31 2011 05:31 GMT
#18502
How long after does Day9 usually upload onto Blip?
I missed this funday. :[
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 31 2011 05:45 GMT
#18503
On May 31 2011 14:31 mizU wrote:
How long after does Day9 usually upload onto Blip?
I missed this funday. :[


Haha same, was about to enter the thread asking the same thing. Hopefully before GSL tonight? =D?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 31 2011 06:22 GMT
#18504
Pretty quickly apparently, it's up already. Time to watch!
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
May 31 2011 06:30 GMT
#18505
On May 31 2011 12:48 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 12:07 leova wrote:
On May 31 2011 12:02 DeltruS wrote:
Afaik day9 has no way of telling if people are only using their mouse or not.


...except actually looking at the replay, perhaps?
if the mouse moves to the minimap but the ingame view changes from Barracks->Army->CC, then obviously a keyboard was used...


You can use the mouse to macro back at your base without the view being there, since you can still use control groups. I think DeltruS is technically right in that it'd be impossible to tell between a player who's just kind of bad and someone only using their mouse. I just played a game against my friend who's Bronze (I'm plat), and from the replay, it looks like we both just had bad mechanics/APM.


Well, since you can display hotkeys, it's obvious when a keyboard was used.

Not using the keyboard should be horrible for Zerg.... instead of holding Z/R you have to click it with the mouse and mouse clicks are soooooooo slow (at least for me :p)
leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
May 31 2011 07:35 GMT
#18506
<3 ShakerGuy!

http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-308-competitive-ffa-5224688
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
May 31 2011 07:50 GMT
#18507
Just as a heads up, in case you guys didn't know, sc2ratings.com has a section for the day9 daily now.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 31 2011 09:18 GMT
#18508
On May 31 2011 16:35 leova wrote:
<3 ShakerGuy!

http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-308-competitive-ffa-5224688


ShakerGuy messaged me after the tournament, we chatted a bit, he's really quite a manner guy.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Tili_us
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium44 Posts
May 31 2011 11:41 GMT
#18509
On May 31 2011 18:18 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:35 leova wrote:
<3 ShakerGuy!

http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-308-competitive-ffa-5224688


ShakerGuy messaged me after the tournament, we chatted a bit, he's really quite a manner guy.


Gratz mizU!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 31 2011 12:58 GMT
#18510
Just watched #3, definitly one of my favourites, such brilliant analyzing from Mr.Plott Junior
This is our town, scrub
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 19:57:05
May 31 2011 14:42 GMT
#18511
The Mouse-only fundaymonday can be semi-verified. All your hotkeys must be rightclicked in succession to open up new control groups. If you manage to have 1, 4, 5, and 9 open, you used the keyboard. Now people probably could just cheat by running an artosis bind, but....wheres the fun in that.

Edit: Whoops, No-Mouse would have really been cruel.
Tili_us
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium44 Posts
May 31 2011 16:54 GMT
#18512
What, no mouse? like in no mouse at all ?
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
May 31 2011 17:00 GMT
#18513
Day9, the best rent reminder there is xD.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
lime_x
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden1 Post
May 31 2011 19:09 GMT
#18514
On May 31 2011 23:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
The No-Mouse fundaymonday can be semi-verified. All your hotkeys must be rightclicked in succession to open up new control groups. If you manage to have 1, 4, 5, and 9 open, you used the keyboard. Now people probably could just cheat by running an artosis bind, but....wheres the fun in that.


Actually, I use the 1,2,3,4,5, etc. when I macro. Not all people are using 1,4,5 and 9. But none the less, this funday monday wouldn't be fun if you didn't follow the rules.
Btw, why does almost "everyone" uses the 1,4,5, and 9? I thinks it feels better with 1,2,3.
Watch out for my probe-rush :P
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 31 2011 19:12 GMT
#18515
It bugged me how the guy who did nothing all game ended up winning. But I guess thats what you do in a FFA, don't get on anyones nerves and start a battle, just turtle and mass :D.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
May 31 2011 19:54 GMT
#18516
On June 01 2011 01:54 Tili_us wrote:
What, no mouse? like in no mouse at all ?

actually, its MOUSE-ONLY....that is, no keyboard for a-move, etc
Tili_us
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium44 Posts
May 31 2011 19:58 GMT
#18517
On June 01 2011 04:54 leova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 01:54 Tili_us wrote:
What, no mouse? like in no mouse at all ?

actually, its MOUSE-ONLY....that is, no keyboard for a-move, etc


Oh nice, you can support your chin with your other hand while playing then :D
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 31 2011 19:59 GMT
#18518
On June 01 2011 04:54 leova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 01:54 Tili_us wrote:
What, no mouse? like in no mouse at all ?

actually, its MOUSE-ONLY....that is, no keyboard for a-move, etc

My mistake, I've edited my previous post. Tried to think too early in the day and thats what happened.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 31 2011 20:00 GMT
#18519
Was the last funday monobattles?
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 20:55:46
May 31 2011 20:54 GMT
#18520
Btw, why does almost "everyone" uses the 1,4,5, and 9? I thinks it feels better with 1,2,3.


I think most people use 1, 2, and 3 for army and scouts and things like that, but obviously everyone's different. It is slightly ergonomically better to use 4 and 5 for macro if you're using the standard hotkeys because your index finger is more independent (the other three fingers like to move "together" slightly).

To see what I'm talking about, try putting your ring finger on 1 and the index and middle on S and D, then compare it to putting your index on 4 and your ring and middle on A and S; you'll notice that the ring finger feels slightly strained because it wants to curl like the middle finger, whereas the index finger is completely fine being straight while the others are curled.

It's a little different with Protoss because you're using E instead of S for workers, so it can be better to use 1 for your nexus, but it's generally more comfortable to use 4, 5, and 6 as Terran because the main macro hotkeys are S, A, and D, and it's WAY more ergonomic as Zerg to have your hatches on 4/5/6 because you always have to hit 4s/5s/6s.

edit: just want to make it clear that I'm not saying that using 4 and 5 is superior, use whatever you find most comfortable, I'm just stating the reasons why most people do it that way
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