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Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 22:08:12
August 07 2010 22:06 GMT
#8801
USA has higher population density than sweden. The problem isn't the size of the country (sweden is huge for its population and even remote areas has good Internet connections) it's political and economic will to make things happen. USA is home to the RIAA and MPAA and other lobby groups for the music and movie industries which are very much interested in restricting the spread of the Internet infrastructure.

And back on topic. Good to hear that day9 realizes his mistakes with not taking the event too serious at first in regards to what had to be done, it's a huge undertaking and planning needs to be done way in advance
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
August 07 2010 22:39 GMT
#8802
On August 08 2010 03:40 mjewkes wrote:
Hey Day[9],

Every consider offering replay commentary to people for a fee? I'd be willing to "donate/pay" a pretty reasonable amount to give commentary on a replay of a game I'd lost.

You could put it up too for other people, though as I'm only a low diamond/high platnum player it probably wouldn't be too interesting to the masses (though you have a way of making most games pretty interesting).

mjewkes


How much are you willing to pay? I doubt day9 has the time to do things like that for anything less than $100. You should try gosucoaching.com.
Diddemz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia3 Posts
August 07 2010 23:18 GMT
#8803
Is anyone else experiencing PC crashes with some of the stream links?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
August 07 2010 23:53 GMT
#8804
Update your drivers, it supposedly fixes it. I assume you mean blip.tv crashes your computer? (was a problem reported on these forums earlier)
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 08 2010 01:11 GMT
#8805
im just curious in #160 sean refers to this one video he wasn't able to check beforehand that he is extremely inappropriate and had to be like 18+. i probably missed it but what video was he referring to?
Forever Young
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 01:15:09
August 08 2010 01:14 GMT
#8806
On August 08 2010 05:45 Kyuki wrote:
Loved 160 :D

Just gotta say I lol'd quite abit when you were on about the internet connection at harvey mud..
I mean, I know the internet-infrastructure is quite far behind in USA, but seriously. I had 100/100 at my HOME 6 years ago, for practically no money at all. I got myself a giggle :D


There are terrible internet connections all over the US at small colleges--my undergraduate school had 4.5Mbps up and down total for 2500 people It was literally unusable much of the time
coma
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany86 Posts
August 08 2010 01:22 GMT
#8807
Great Daily #160! I really enjoy this kind of backstory and I am glad it worked out so well.
On a side note, I finally saw the Finals on youtube and had a really good time - despite knowing the outcome xD

I will also be on gamescom. Any info on when exactly the tournament will be held? I can't seem to find that info.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 08 2010 01:24 GMT
#8808
Day[9] is such a good storyteller
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
JoKeR[X]
Profile Joined August 2010
8 Posts
August 08 2010 01:29 GMT
#8809
On August 08 2010 03:14 IMB4L4ND wrote:
Hey Day[9]
can you or anybody else can tell me whats the name of the song you played on the small talk before your 159 daily..the good one not the scary random noise crap :D but from the same album as the same scary random noise crap xD


QFE, really want to know the song name!
bnanaPEEL
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada138 Posts
August 08 2010 01:37 GMT
#8810
On August 08 2010 10:11 sung_moon wrote:
im just curious in #160 sean refers to this one video he wasn't able to check beforehand that he is extremely inappropriate and had to be like 18+. i probably missed it but what video was he referring to?

I'd also appreciate a link to the video, or knowing which one of the Day[9] Countdown party videos from the blip.tv account I can find it in. It's really good content, just a bit long to scan through it all
Thanks!!
unintentionally intoxicated
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 08 2010 01:46 GMT
#8811
It was saharadrac's segment, not sure where it is on blip though.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Satori
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada11 Posts
August 08 2010 01:53 GMT
#8812
I have been lurking TL for a very long time, but I registered just to post this, and I may just go back to lurking after I do so.

After daily #157 (A Long, Insane ZvT) there was a lot of arguing in the stream's chat. There were 2 sides, people who thought that there Terran player was being very cheap for forcing a draw in the way that he did, and those who thought that it was perfectly fine as there is money on the line and one should do whatever it takes to win (or in this case, just not lose).

The latter, I believe, is deeply flawed. But then again, I am not a progamer. So I will share with you a similar circumstance involving one.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29303

"“Yellow’s GG” incident

During a match Yellow is a minute away from a certain defeat. Then, suddenly his computer starts to falter and the drop screen comes up. Here, Yellow types GG like a true sportsman and leaves the game admitting defeat.
After this he received an ovation from his fans, praising his manner and sportsmanship."


The game could have been replayed, had Yell0w wanted it to be. He wouldn't even of had to do anything. But he knew that he lost. He knew that he had lost and that to replay the game would have been dishonest. So he admitted defeat, like a true sportsman.

Yell0w has already held a very special place in my heart, ever since I began following professional Starcraft. That example of class and sportsmanship always makes me smile every time I think about it.

Of course, if someone wishes to force a draw like the Terran player did in daily #157, then that is their choice. And if someone wants to defend it, then that is their choice as well. Even so, I think it is important for people on both sides of this issue to just be aware of this incident involving Yell0w, and how he chose to react.
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 08 2010 04:34 GMT
#8813
I'm sure this has been asked several times before, but I can't seem to find the answer (no, I didn't read through all 441 pages of this thread). Are the physical replays of the KotB tourney available? Specifically the semifinal and final.
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
August 08 2010 06:09 GMT
#8814
Just putting this out there, but I think that a good subject for a daily would be to talk about QXC's ghosts in TvZ (yes, not a typo, mass ghost in TvZ)

Snipe owning in every single matchup.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 03:45:09
August 08 2010 08:34 GMT
#8815
Sponsor's Post Mortem

I am the representative from HY STONE DEPOT that visited the event. We are proud to support the local E-sports communities and are honored to able to of help the Day9 Countdown Party event. We believe E-Sports have a bright future and look forward to support the community again.

HY Stone Depot Inc. is a leading kitchen and bath countertops, tiles, and cabinets retailer
for the Greater Los Angeles area. We are located right off the 10 Freeway at the Rosemead Exit. Additionally, we will be rolling out a new program call www.mydiykitchen.com in the later half of this year. Through the www.mydiykitchen.com portal, we will provide free estimate and design services, ship custom build modular kitchen and bathroom supplies, as well as provide video tutorials and on-call experts to assist adventurous Do-It-Yourselfers looking to remodeling their homes anywhere within the 48 states.

The Day9 Countdown Party was an incredibly successful event hosted right here locally at Harvey Mudd College, Los Angeles. As a sponsor, we felt the growing E-Sports communities provide a viable and affordable marketing platform for small and medium businesses with limited public relations budgets. However most traditional, Brick&Mortar businesses continue to ignore this platform for sponsorship. We hope our example will prompt other traditionally offline and local businesses into supporting local tournaments, lan, and other Esports events. Any growth in the E-sports industry will be dependent on such support.

We believe our sponsorship was a positive experience for all parties involved. We had received significant exposure in exchange for a small portion of our overall marketing budget, and generated good will with the E-sports community. It was an enjoyable and positive experience.

Sincerely,

Fred Hong
HY Stone Depot
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Tel: 626-573-8899 626-573-1899
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oppositional
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia31 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 09:25:04
August 08 2010 09:19 GMT
#8816
On August 08 2010 10:53 Satori wrote:
Of course, if someone wishes to force a draw like the Terran player did in daily #157, then that is their choice. And if someone wants to defend it, then that is their choice as well. Even so, I think it is important for people on both sides of this issue to just be aware of this incident involving Yell0w, and how he chose to react.


There are a few interesting things to consider in, if not that specific example, these sorts of situations:

a)What if the player who thinks he should forfeit is flat out wrong and they are still in the game, is it really wise for them to trust their judgment?
b)There's no way of distinguishing incompetent bad manner people who *think* they have won and therefor they expect the other player to quit from people who actually know what they're talking about, so the whole idea that people should quit is totally flawed.
c)By quitting early, player A makes it clear to the other player that they are the kind of person who will quit in a "hopeless" situation, this allows player B to "know" that if player A hasn't quit he is still in the game and must look for hidden expansions and other things like that, when otherwise he may get complacent and lose.
d)It discounts monumental screwups where the winning player just throws the game away, it happens, more common in games like WC3 with creeps though.
d)The best games are in my opinion, always phenomenal comebacks, if you try and coerce people into quitting then won't we have fewer of these especially fantastic games?
e)It's not the rules, its vague. If it should be done this way then just incorporate it into the game. Having things simple like last building standing is clear and easy to for everyone to understand, so it's best that way.

PS. I stop playing when I feel like it, which tends to be when it's clear to me I've lost, and am always offended when someone expects me to quit before I have decided for myself to do so.

Theres nothing more bad manner than saying gg and then not quitting, it's the most presumptuous bad manner thing to say. So in my opinion, the only people who were rude or inappropriate were those who commented negatively.

Oh wait and here's the No.1 all time Best Reason Ever to accept players forcing a draw:
Because it's The Rules. So in order to win, you have to consider that the other player may force a draw! If you are not considering that the other player may force a draw, you have an unfair advantage because that's one less thing you have to worry about that a better player would consider. You know what I mean?
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
August 08 2010 09:28 GMT
#8817
On August 08 2010 15:09 TurpinOS wrote:
Just putting this out there, but I think that a good subject for a daily would be to talk about QXC's ghosts in TvZ (yes, not a typo, mass ghost in TvZ)

Snipe owning in every single matchup.

This I gotta see..
here i am
01d55
Profile Joined March 2010
United States19 Posts
August 08 2010 09:57 GMT
#8818
On August 08 2010 10:53 Satori wrote:

After daily #157 (A Long, Insane ZvT) there was a lot of arguing in the stream's chat. There were 2 sides, people who thought that there Terran player was being very cheap for forcing a draw in the way that he did, and those who thought that it was perfectly fine as there is money on the line and one should do whatever it takes to win (or in this case, just not lose).
...
The game could have been replayed, had Yell0w wanted it to be. He wouldn't even of had to do anything. But he knew that he lost. He knew that he had lost and that to replay the game would have been dishonest. So he admitted defeat, like a true sportsman.
...
Of course, if someone wishes to force a draw like the Terran player did in daily #157, then that is their choice. And if someone wants to defend it, then that is their choice as well. Even so, I think it is important for people on both sides of this issue to just be aware of this incident involving Yell0w, and how he chose to react.

I draw a distinction between Yell0w's circumstance and that game; in the former case technical difficulties threatened to end the game, in the latter the game was drawn out through legal play. It's the difference between conceding a chess match after an earthquake upsets the board and playing for a stalemate once checkmate is no longer viable.
Lady-nerds seriously grab on to feminism like it is a buoy and they are drowning, because it is! And they sort of are! - Sady Doyle
oppositional
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia31 Posts
August 08 2010 10:05 GMT
#8819
Oh yea and another reason not to ever quit no matter what (although I do) are things like hallucinations. What if you wanted to play on and couldn't understand how you were losing so badly, and decided to quit so people didn't think you were bad manner, when it turned out that the enemy army was just a bunch of hallucinations! Then you'd have people intentionally abusing you for not quitting in the hope that they could pressure you into quitting!
virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
August 08 2010 10:07 GMT
#8820
On August 08 2010 10:53 Satori wrote:
I have been lurking TL for a very long time, but I registered just to post this, and I may just go back to lurking after I do so.

After daily #157 (A Long, Insane ZvT) there was a lot of arguing in the stream's chat. There were 2 sides, people who thought that there Terran player was being very cheap for forcing a draw in the way that he did, and those who thought that it was perfectly fine as there is money on the line and one should do whatever it takes to win (or in this case, just not lose).

The latter, I believe, is deeply flawed. But then again, I am not a progamer. So I will share with you a similar circumstance involving one.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29303

"“Yellow’s GG” incident

During a match Yellow is a minute away from a certain defeat. Then, suddenly his computer starts to falter and the drop screen comes up. Here, Yellow types GG like a true sportsman and leaves the game admitting defeat.
After this he received an ovation from his fans, praising his manner and sportsmanship."


The game could have been replayed, had Yell0w wanted it to be. He wouldn't even of had to do anything. But he knew that he lost. He knew that he had lost and that to replay the game would have been dishonest. So he admitted defeat, like a true sportsman.

Yell0w has already held a very special place in my heart, ever since I began following professional Starcraft. That example of class and sportsmanship always makes me smile every time I think about it.

Of course, if someone wishes to force a draw like the Terran player did in daily #157, then that is their choice. And if someone wants to defend it, then that is their choice as well. Even so, I think it is important for people on both sides of this issue to just be aware of this incident involving Yell0w, and how he chose to react.

so your entire argument was basicaly

- I know this guy that chose A so I think you guys should choose A over B, tyvm.

Sounds reasonable to me.
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