EPTOn August 22 2009 22:55 Qeet wrote:
fully agree with you, their success with wow corrupted them
fully agree with you, their success with wow corrupted them
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One account per game - Goodbye to smurfing? - Page 14
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On August 22 2009 22:21 FortuneSyn wrote: Players should NOT be allowed to racepick on the ladder. Player A: ZvZ TvT PvP Player B: ZvP PvT TvZ How are you going to determine which of these two are better than each other? What if the "proleague ladder" has a finals, and Player A has to play Player B? Then they would just have agree on what race they'll pick for the game. There isn't really a good reason why you won't support race-picking. | ||
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LordofToast
United Kingdom250 Posts
The only people who will be upset by this are smurfs and people anal about their stats. | ||
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parkin
1080 Posts
On August 22 2009 22:59 keV. wrote: This is more or less what I meant, but its early. I think it would be fine if pre-matchmaking you set something: as an example, like a protoss player who hates PvZ: if(opponent == zerg) myRace = Terran; I think thats fine. 1. Player A: if(opponent == Zerg), myRace = Terran 2. Player B: if(opponent == Terran), myRace = Protoss 3. Player A: if(opponent == Protoss), myRace = Protoss 4. Player B: if(opponent == Protoss), myRace = Zerg 5. See step 1. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
I have no problems getting creamed by better players, it's part of the game.The only time it's annoying to get crushed by better players is when you play teamgames with a friend that is not on the same skill-level as you. On WC3 I used to play with a very skilled friend. It was impossible for us to get equally skilled oponents unless he smurfed. If he did smurf we would play people on our level in like 5 games or so. | ||
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FortuneSyn
1826 Posts
On August 22 2009 23:09 FirstBorn wrote: Then they would just have agree on what race they'll pick for the game. There isn't really a good reason why you won't support race-picking. Learn your facts please? It is based on auto matchmaking system (AMM). This means you press a button, and get automatically matched. You cannot "agree" or talk to your opponent before you play him. FrozenArbiter mentioned a solution which is to default your choice to the PvR but I really don't know how I feel about this. Having to learn ZvZ TvT PvP PvR PvT PvZ? Seems like such an impractical feature for a something that doesn't seem so important. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On August 22 2009 23:18 parkin wrote: This is a horrible decision by Blizzard if it is true. 1. Player A: if(opponent == Zerg), myRace = Terran 2. Player B: if(opponent == Terran), myRace = Protoss 3. Player A: if(opponent == Protoss), myRace = Protoss 4. Player B: if(opponent == Protoss), myRace = Zerg 5. See step 1. No, here's how 5 should read: 5. Player A: if(opponent == Random), myRace = Protoss 6. Player B: if(opponent == Random), myRace = Zerg Or something like that. It's not a problem. On August 22 2009 23:24 FortuneSyn wrote: Learn your facts please? It is based on auto matchmaking system (AMM). This means you press a button, and get automatically matched. You cannot "agree" or talk to your opponent before you play him. FrozenArbiter mentioned a solution which is to default your choice to the PvR but I really don't know how I feel about this. Having to learn ZvZ TvT PvP PvR PvT PvZ? Seems like such an impractical feature for a something that doesn't seem so important. I think he was replying to what you said about proleague finals. And if I were to play PvT PvZ TvP PvR, I would only need to learn one additional matchup to cover people who random - PvP. If someone wants to play TvT ZvZ PvP (talk about a maschochist...) then they'll just have to live with learning 2 more matchups - just as they would if there was no AMM. It's better to have that choice than to not have it. | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On August 22 2009 23:24 FortuneSyn wrote: Learn your facts please? It is based on auto matchmaking system (AMM). This means you press a button, and get automatically matched. You cannot "agree" or talk to your opponent before you play him. As FA already pointed out, you won't use AMM in a final. Most racepickers usually have a race they play 2 mu's with and another race for the remaining mu. That makes is quite easy to play with just about anyone. And even if 2 given players play the MU's your specified, AMM will probably match them with different opponents. | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:25 blade55555 wrote: lol its not hard to play a clan mate, friend thats your skill.. Yes do unranked this smurf crap don't give me that ^^. Say for instance, you are a B level player. You START OUT with 1000 points, D. Now, who are you going to play? Let's join Ladder A-B. Oh wait, you can't. Let's find a B player to play against. Why would they risk it? They either get almost no points for beating you, or they lose a hell of a lot of them for losing to you. There is no advantage playing people lower ranked than you. So you MUST go through the D players, then D+,C-,C,C+,B- in order to get to your real rank. blade55555, I think that you are definitely not suited for competitive SC. All you care about is winning. Let me fill you in on a little secret: You don't get better from winning nearly as much as when losing. Of course, no point in getting raped horribly by some Korean leagues ahead of you, but how often are you going to play them? If you join a D game, 8/10, you WILL play a D. Maybe the D is better than you, then he deserves to reach D+, and see how he fares. but you are playing D players, and if you lose to them, then that is when you focus on improving, not complaining about how he's not really D level, and a smurf. Basically, people don't smurf just to "own noobs to boost their ego." People smurf to be anonymous, for privacy, entertainment, screwing around, whatever it may be. Sure, sometimes people decide, "Hey! Let's go beat some D- level people for fun!" but that is HARDLY the majority of their time spent. It is simply a waste of time and effort. EDIT: On a note of the "unranked" games, they are NOT as much as The Holy Grail as you might think. Keep in mind, unranked games are unranked for both players, which should be obvious. Not imagine you are playing a tennis game. You are playing some friend, just chilling, having a nice day, compared you are playing in the US Open finals. Even if you are a player able to compete in the US Open, you wouldn't try nearly as hard in the *unranked* casual game, because it simply doesn't matter. High level players do not play to beat low level players; they play to beat high level players, and preferably with good games, for the fun element. Meaning, for their practice time, when they are testing out new builds, unranked games will hardly be a replacement because there is no guarantee the opponent will try as hard as they'd like. If they play against a person trying their hardest, it would better test the viability of their build. But if they screw around, play carelessly, and mess up their timings, it could very well screw up the build timings that they are trying to test out. | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
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mrhh
50 Posts
I do think they should let people be anonymous i they want however. | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
What I mean is: Everybody knows that USWEST is packed with Koreans and non-english speakers. If people are forced to pick a single account, isn't it likely that they will choose the realm with the greatest number of people who speak their own language? Finally, past 12am I'll be able to read the titles of the games and communicate with my opponent/team!  | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
Too many of you got mad at the one account/game for questionable reasons, what if you had 3 accounts? Would that make you a little reasonable? To all serial smurfers: phuck you!! And you don't get better by playing noobs once in a while, you get better by deliberate practice with people you know. Also you still get to play stronger opponents in a while, about half the time, don't you? All in all a good idea that will make Starcraft 2 more enjoyable | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
The problem with race picking has always been the same: race pickers can't play everybody. They can't always play other race pickers. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Falling
Canada11349 Posts
If you hack, your master account is banned and you're gone. Furthermore, I don't see why it would be so hard to have three separate ranks for the three races. Even a noob like me knows I need to play people at a lower level to be competitive when I play an off-race. Heck, you could even have an aggregate score that combines the three for kicks and giggles. In both cases you're not stomping noobs, so what's the problem? | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On August 23 2009 00:48 hifriend wrote: I like it! Once bannad for hacking, you're gone just like in wow. Awesome! Yes but you can have that and still allow multiple IDs - just have all IDs tied to one "master account" (like the account you use for the Blizzard store!). | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On August 23 2009 01:05 FrozenArbiter wrote: Yes but you can have that and still allow multiple IDs - just have all IDs tied to one "master account" (like the account you use for the Blizzard store!). I still believe that's how it's going to be. Until specifically told otherwise, I assume people on your friends list will be able to see like "FrozenArbiter" or whatever your master acct name is and your status would be In Game under a different name. To everyone else you are a mystery | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! | ||
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