EPTBeta Balance Update #10 - Page 50
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On December 19 2012 15:59 Swords wrote: Reminds me of all the stuff they did to Protoss in attempts to fix 4gate vs. 4gate PvP a year and a half ago, none of which worked except the last couple changes (lowered ramp vision combined with no warping on ramps. All the warpgate research time nerfs did very little compared to those two things) and ended up screwing up all the other matchups. Sure 4gate vs. 4gate was kinda dumb but I would rather have that but still have the ability to pressure other races without being completely all-in early on.The thing that bothers me about this patch is they denerfed fungal to fix a mirror matchup. David Kim said the problem was too much muta vs. muta in ZvZ. This is mind blowing to me - you shouldn't buff a spell and potentially ruin the other 2 MUs after 2 weeks of beta testing because you don't like the way the mirror matchup looks (not to mention Fungal vs. Fungal isn't any more fun to watch). Give it time or at least look for other solutions. The obvious one that sticks out to me is giving the hydra a buff or changing something with the corruptor - both fixes the balance team has been claiming to want to a long time. | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
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GeneralSnoop
United States142 Posts
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myRZeth
Germany1047 Posts
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Gimmeurladderpoints
Germany372 Posts
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6BiT
513 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:39 Lorch wrote: I lol'd, please tell me you aren't serious. There are 5 people working on starcraft balance that randomly try shit, if you read the hots patch history, especially the first couple patches, you can tell that they have no idea what they are doing. I'd like to see all you arm chair experts do a better job lol. Some of the posts in this place are f**king too funny (not really directed to the post im quoting, just a general observation after reading this thread) | ||
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sagefreke
United States241 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:19 Decendos wrote: corruptor is way better, fungal is better, in some situations even queens are better. hydra is supposed to be zerg GtA unit but actually they are too weak right now. hydras are good with roaches and viper vs mech and also with roaches any viper vs colossus stalker deathballs. thats pretty much it. they are bad vs bio, stargate and TC play. would love to see some love for the hydra so it would be zerg core unit instead of infestor. Hence why I said in a previous post that buffing the Hydra would've been better than buffing FG to combat Mutas in ZvZ. Corruptors are too gas heavy and not useful enough in the matchup to warrant them being made in the matchup compared to Hydras and Infestors who have uses outside of just attacking air. The whole point of my original post was to say that Blizzard looks at buffing every aspect of Zergs AA except for the two MAIN AA units that are supposed to excel at it, but just can't cut it. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On December 20 2012 02:34 myRZeth wrote: i just got kicked out of the game, are the servers down? Seems so. | ||
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myRZeth
Germany1047 Posts
seems like we re the only ones complaining T_T | ||
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d00p
711 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:24 blooming_flower wrote: I hope all of you will be content in a world of mass roach/hydra/corruptor every game in vP, vZ. Nope, it's roach/hydra/viper vP. Good unit comp and pretty fun actually. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
Stop BUFFING the Infestors Blizzard. The hell is wrong with you? Can you seriously just take a look at yourself in the mirror for once and ask why most everyone hates the damn unit? You have nerfed Ghost to the ground, HT only works in certain situations and yet Infestors are all over the place in every single match-up. So why don't you tell us why you are doing this? Doesn't the latest Blizzard Cup show enough that you NEED to kill the Infestors or are you even caring at this point? I have switched to Terran after my frustrations with Toss after playing Toss for so long in BW. This is so maddeningly frustrating to see them toy with Terran and Toss and keep buffing Zerg w/o even a reason for it. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On December 20 2012 02:38 myRZeth wrote: seems like we re the only ones complaining T_T Yep. It kinda pissed me off since I was in the mood the crush the ladder..  | ||
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d00p
711 Posts
On December 20 2012 02:34 GeneralSnoop wrote: Im not even saying its a terrible patch........but blizzard should not have buffed fungal just because of the community uproar. They had to see this comming lol They overbuffed so they can make amends by nerfing it a couple of times in the future. But really, fungal in the last patch was pretty useless so it needed a buff. I'm sorry. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
On December 20 2012 02:40 Huragius wrote: Yep. It kinda pissed me off since I was in the mood the crush the ladder.. Yeah down for me too =/ | ||
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Gimmeurladderpoints
Germany372 Posts
On December 20 2012 02:41 d00p wrote: They overbuffed so they can make amends by nerfing it a couple of times in the future. But really, fungal in the last patch was pretty useless so it needed a buff. I'm sorry. It needed to be removed and exchanged with something better. | ||
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Gendi2545
South Africa50 Posts
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Merikh
United States918 Posts
On December 20 2012 02:39 Seraphic wrote: All I got to say is... Stop BUFFING the Infestors Blizzard. The hell is wrong with you? Can you seriously just take a look at yourself in the mirror for once and ask why most everyone hates the damn unit? You have nerfed Ghost to the ground, HT only works in certain situations and yet Infestors are all over the place in every single match-up. So why don't you tell us why you are doing this? Doesn't the latest Blizzard Cup show enough that you NEED to kill the Infestors or are you even caring at this point? I have switched to Terran after my frustrations with Toss after playing Toss for so long in BW. This is so maddeningly frustrating to see them toy with Terran and Toss and keep buffing Zerg w/o even a reason for it. Buffing infestors? Quite the miss understanding. When blizzard changed infestors from instant fungal to projectile, that was a big killing blow right there. All they did was increase the range because the projectile made you get closer than usual and they speed it up because if they kept the projectile speed the same and increased the range, it would be damn near impossible to actually hit the fungal at all. Idea for the last patch is to make the fungal weaker, but it didn't work because infestors just got sniped faster (especially in ZvZ), now they gave it a little range so the infestors can stay back a bit. So technically they didn't do much to the infestor but increase the range and increased the speed of the projectile to compensate for the range increase to put it where it was before at max range. | ||
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myRZeth
Germany1047 Posts
post on their website! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7415793049 | ||
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Young Terran
United Kingdom265 Posts
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