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crbox
Canada1181 Posts
No it won't? I'm pretty sure well positioned Tempest behind cannon and a decently sized ground force would beat that. Of course 1a vs 1a Tempest would most probably lose. EDIT: Protoss meta-game might even become like mass air (Tempest / Voidray / Pheonix) though. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Morton
United States152 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:36 Cyro wrote: A bit wary of more muta buffs (1.38hp per real second wowza) but im not too sure how they perform on beta in pro level play. Other changes are good, dark shrine one honestly expected, Weapon/Armor upgrades on mech/air makes sense and is in a good place with that i think. think about it though, both races have gained HUGE buffs to mutalisk defense, terran with widow mines, and toss with oracles/range seven phoenixes. honestly they needed something in other thoughts, i would like to see some more tweaking done to HSM (add some splash and reduce single target damage perhaps) as in their current form they are basically a yamato cannon. | ||
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Boiler Bandsman
United States391 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:48 Insoleet wrote: I think that storm + stargate will still be viable. Storms to lower the HP of the mutas, and phoenix to kill them before they regen. And storm counters hydras. So its ok. I don't like that this makes bruising mutas with storms useless. For a unit that's based around avoiding conflict/damage, adding fast regen makes it too easy to get away with mistakes, and means that wounding a unit that should never face combat long enough to die no longer matters. If you knock his mutas to half health now, he has to be way more careful and less agressive, and you're rewarded for defending well. Now, he'll be right back to fill health 30 secs later. | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:52 Morton wrote: think about it though, both races have gained HUGE buffs to mutalisk defense, terran with widow mines, and toss with oracles/range seven phoenixes. honestly they needed something Mutas were already dead in WoL... So yes, they needed a buff. | ||
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:52 Morton wrote: think about it though, both races have gained HUGE buffs to mutalisk defense, terran with widow mines, and toss with oracles/range seven phoenixes. honestly they needed something Oracles againts mutas? Think about it again. | ||
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syroz
France249 Posts
Anyway, the muta buff looks already imba vs toss. I didnt understand the mine change. | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:52 Morton wrote: think about it though, both races have gained HUGE buffs to mutalisk defense, terran with widow mines, and toss with oracles/range seven phoenixes. honestly they needed something how is the oracle a buff for def to muta neither of the beam the the slow zone affect air unit | ||
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krjay
United States35 Posts
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:54 Breach_hu wrote: Oracles againts mutas? Think about it again. Obviously, timewarp needs to hit air. Thats a bit dumb that it doesnt hit air, as it's affecting the TIME of an area... | ||
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Ironmammoth
United States16 Posts
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idkfa
United States77 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:33 eviltomahawk wrote: Protoss players weren't struggling as much against Mutas anymore in WoL, so they changed the Tempest to the 22 range monstrosity that they toned down during the beta. It's not that Protoss players struggled less against Mutas, it's that Zerg discovered better strategies. I'm curious to see how the Oracle continues to evolve - it got a failing grade from Idra when he and WhiteRa had an impromptu series. | ||
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Morton
United States152 Posts
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Morton
United States152 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:54 Breach_hu wrote: Oracles againts mutas? Think about it again. I did, and i am very, very stupid | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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DemigodcelpH
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YyapSsap
New Zealand1511 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Xahhk
Canada540 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:58 Ironmammoth wrote: So now Brood Lords are unable to exist in PvZ, because they will be 3-shotted by tempests. That seems a little extreme as a toss player and I'm sure to a Zerg plaer... They just want to discourage infestor brood as much as possible so it appears much less. if a toss goes heavy robo that's when zerg should go broodlords now I guess. But this is strange because the toss' new units all come from stargate tech... | ||
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KookyMonster
United States311 Posts
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