EPTah right, didnt even think of that. mass thor vs toss, here i come!
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
ah right, didnt even think of that. mass thor vs toss, here i come! | ||
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Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:44 Moka wrote: Then you should explain yourself why this patch is shit. Coming here and ranting doesn't bring anything to the discussion. im gm so i am gud playir. Solid argument champ  Now back it up with facts | ||
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Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:45 Nightshade_ wrote: ^^ "im gm so i am gud playir." Solid argument champ Now back it up with facts | ||
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biamila
Canada335 Posts
Just read those notes. I... I am excited for fucking everything about this for Terran. Thor. Is. Here. | ||
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Grapefruit
Germany439 Posts
Nice job on quoting your own shitpost. | ||
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Kyyuna
United States1222 Posts
and terran attack timing will be fucking scary as shit Am excited to see new timings for terran in the mid game and how Zerg will respond to it | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
Does thor lose ground attack after transform into anti-air mode? | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:43 Obaten wrote: Caduceus reactor's cost and research time changed, not the cost for the medivac itself. They are still 100/100 and 42 seconds to build. Oh, lol. Then medivacs are going to be freaking amazing O_o. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Armory The Armory now only has one weapon and one armor upgrade for both air and ground upgrades for both Factory and Starport units. Particularly this one. Also, not clear why medivacs needed 3 different buffs. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
The guy is exaggerating but i could very well imagine so many drastical changes to bring up a LOT of imbalances. But they still have some months of time and i'd rather have them change many things instead of just little fixes. I don't want HotS to be nearly like WoL. | ||
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ElfenLied
Germany121 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:42 Doodsmack wrote: Keep in mind everyone that Blizzard has stated multiple times that their intention with HOTS beta is to make big changes and then dial back. I hope you're right, I really hope so. In my opinion, these are the worst changes ever made. Especially the Medivac change (as if they weren't strong enough already...), the Terran armory update, phoenix and the dark shrine. Also, have you noticed that Seeker Missile is basically the same as the Yamato cannon? Pretty bad design, sorry Blizzard... | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:47 larse wrote: Question: Does thor lose ground attack after transform into anti-air mode? Beta doesn't seem to be up yet so I guess we'll find out soon. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:42 dw.Justify wrote: why do i need a high post count for hating this patch ? my balance sense is high enough since i am a grandmaster player Being GM doesn't really give you good balance sense at all. That is like saying professional gamers have really good ideas on how to balance the game, which normally involves nerfing their worst match up. Or saying that I have more common sense because I am older. | ||
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dw.Justify
Germany34 Posts
Also terran mech is rly rly strong in hots vs P. Just tempest totally owns it but this will not be the case anymore with the new patch. And mech will now be even stronger espc when thor rly has no more energy I think most zerg changes are ok. But muta speed... this is not rly necessary makes them just more annyoning but not better in fighting. Im myself protoss, i think dt shrine is now too cheap but makes me anyway happy :-) dt pwnage but in caste of balance its prob also shit . Tempest beeing tier 3 together with carrier and no more + dmg vs massive ground will make it never been played again so tempest is no more new unit. Blizzard said themselv since toss has now tempest they dont need vortex anymore vs Broodlords. But tempest will not be build against broodlords i guess but time will tell (carriers are better in this case and they also dont rly work). (tempest dps is 9 vs massive 18) carrier has 25 dps against everything carrier range is 8 first later 14 so its not a big difference between those 2 but im not sure. In every caste the medivac speed and heal is shit this is 4 sure. | ||
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
Good luck with testing. | ||
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lost_artz
United States366 Posts
That kills: Every zerg unit in one hit - except for Ultras Every Terran unit except for Thors/BCs Every Toss unit except for Collosi, Archons, Carrier and Tempests Albeit there's no splash damage but that seems rather ridiculous. I don't understand this change unless Blizzard wants to create a lategame situation for TvX that we have now with ZvX where you counter t3 with spellcasters. Removing the upgrade was good enough - this just seems like overkill. | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
So yeah it's gonna be pretty strong... | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:43 rpgalon wrote: I think the +4 vs armored is still in the game, just the +20% vs massive was removed Yeah, oops. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:51 kasumimi wrote: This patch looks quite interesting, the game needs big changes. Personally I'm a bit reluctant because there are too many buffs, while the game's units need an overall nerf in order to create more dynamic environment imho. Good luck with testing. I disagree considerably. One of the problems with WoL is that everything was nerfed far too much in the beta and it made certain things like the reaper and tank completely awful. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:49 dw.Justify wrote: Ok i try, first of all medivac changes are much too drastic that cant be the right way. The speed is so high even faster then mutaliscs with new speed ^^. And the healing will be so powerfull its a 60 % healting buff. Also terran mech is rly rly strong in hots vs P. Just tempest totally owns it but this will not be the case anymore with the new patch. And mech will now be even stronger espc when thor rly has no more energy I think most zerg changes are ok. But muta speed... this is not rly necessary makes them just more annyoning but not better in fighting. Im myself protoss, i think dt shrine is now too cheap but makes me anyway happy :-) dt pwnage but in caste of balance its prob also shit . Tempest beeing tier 3 together with carrier and no more + dmg vs massive ground will make it never been played again so tempest is no more new unit. Blizzard said themselv since toss has now tempest they dont need vortex anymore vs Broodlords. But tempest will not be build against broodlords i guess but time will tell (carriers are better in this case and they also dont rly work). (tempest dps is 9 vs massive 18) carrier has 25 dps against everything carrier range is 8 first later 14 so its not a big difference between those 2 but im not sure. In every caste the medivac speed and heal is shit this is 4 sure. I find none of your arguments compelling or with any merit. Most of the changes are not about balancing the game, but shacking up the meta game to promote the use of different play styles. If they are OP, they can be toned down. But the patch makes good changes to may of the neglected units and structures in the game. | ||
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), so it might be easy to counter. Time will tell. The zerg counter would be the obvious infestor-corruptor combo; hydralisk-viper will likely get owned.
