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Forum for Heart of the Swarm Beta

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 HotS
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
September 06 2012 04:06 GMT
#1
With the HotS Beta starting, we have decided to change the SC2 Single Player forum into the HotS Beta forum. This forum will serve as a place to discuss the new units, balance changes and other new features in the first SC2 expansion.

Once HotS is released, the forum will be changed back to allow discussion of the Heart of the Swarm campaign.

Heart of the Swarm Beta forum
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 06 2012 04:08 GMT
#2
So glad for this, forum was getting overrun with so many theory topics.
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 06 2012 04:20 GMT
#3
I see it took over the Single Player forum :p Glad this is up! Thanks for this
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 06 2012 04:26 GMT
#4
Nice.
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AhOhitzXray
Profile Joined May 2012
United States48 Posts
September 06 2012 04:26 GMT
#5
GJ
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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
September 06 2012 04:31 GMT
#6
Thanks R1CH still my fav TLer
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village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
September 06 2012 04:33 GMT
#7
Begin the warhound threads!
Karuramon
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany19 Posts
September 06 2012 04:45 GMT
#8
Looking forward to all the discussions =)
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3278 Posts
September 06 2012 04:46 GMT
#9
Oo, I was way looking forward to this. People could have made cool build orders with the HotS custom, but now they have a place to put them. Go forth, TLers, and allow me to experience HotS Beta vicariously through you! Also, thank you TL!
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 06 2012 04:47 GMT
#10
i suppose it was a pretty dead forum but where do we post if we do legit want to discuss the single player story? SC2 general?
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
September 06 2012 04:48 GMT
#11
Thanks guys!
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Dice17
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
September 06 2012 05:14 GMT
#12
Cant wait to see this grow :D
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 07:56:22
September 06 2012 06:13 GMT
#13
Had no idea the single-player section only ever had less than ten threads haha.

Seems like a good call.
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
September 06 2012 06:19 GMT
#14
This was needed! Thanks!
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Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
September 06 2012 06:57 GMT
#15
On September 06 2012 13:47 Forikorder wrote:
i suppose it was a pretty dead forum but where do we post if we do legit want to discuss the single player story? SC2 general?



Some of us actually give a shit about the single player. I dont' see why this needs to be split off when in 9 months time, it'll be classed as the 'one game' to all of us :/

bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 06 2012 07:05 GMT
#16
Really good that there's now a HotS section, and I know the single player was quiet and all but then you'll probably get the same problem come HotS where suddenly people want a WoL section which is seperate to the HotS section and "aaaaaahhhhh" could ensue.

Make the HotS section now. Keep single player seperate.
9 months on: HotS section becomes new 'SC2 general' in a merger. Single player becomes "WoL General".

But of course happy there's a HotS section already.
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
September 06 2012 09:10 GMT
#17
Ohh

Does this mean one day the WoL subforum will be retired?
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cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
September 06 2012 09:47 GMT
#18
On September 06 2012 13:33 village_idiot wrote:
Begin the warhound threads!


Cry havoc and let slip the hounds of war!
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vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
September 06 2012 10:11 GMT
#19
all the info in one topic
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
September 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#20
walls of text, walls of text everywhere filled with opinions... i would be a happy nerd if someone could post all the new units with their actual stats, or refresh the liquipedia page! (it still shows the shredder)
ChewSenTv
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
September 06 2012 10:22 GMT
#21
Great to see this, was wondering if there would be and now BOOM!
teamTV
Profile Joined June 2012
France16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 11:50:20
September 06 2012 11:36 GMT
#22
Xylocaine
Profile Joined November 2010
France56 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 11:40:25
September 06 2012 11:40 GMT
#23
On September 06 2012 19:16 Naphal wrote:
walls of text, walls of text everywhere filled with opinions... i would be a happy nerd if someone could post all the new units with their actual stats, or refresh the liquipedia page! (it still shows the shredder)


Indeed, a sticky'ed (and often updated) thread that just lists all the modifications / balance changes / unit stats would be great. At the moment you have to skim through dozens of threads to actually grasp what's new in HOTS (and 99% of those threads are just whine about how automine at the start of matches made the game go totally FUBAR...)
I'd be glad to help if such a thread starts (though I don't have access to the beta so I'm probably not the best one to start it)
teamTV
Profile Joined June 2012
France16 Posts
September 06 2012 11:50 GMT
#24
Hi (sorry for multiple posts),

If you like to test the new units, I have just created a thread for playing heart of the swarm offline:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366548

Hope you enjoy !

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marcussc2brasil
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil36 Posts
September 06 2012 12:48 GMT
#25
On September 06 2012 19:16 Naphal wrote:
walls of text, walls of text everywhere filled with opinions... i would be a happy nerd if someone could post all the new units with their actual stats, or refresh the liquipedia page! (it still shows the shredder)



Here we have it tho, it is in portuguese.... But I think you can figure It out if you know a little bit of spanish, I guess..

http://www.starcraft2brasil.com.br/2012/heart-of-the-swarm-beta-estado-atual/
Yes, there is StarCraft in Brazil! :-D
g99karbing
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden1 Post
September 06 2012 12:58 GMT
#26
can someone give me a hots gamekey add me on skype g99karbing!
Pls have wait on this beta 1 year.

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ChickaChuckWally
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia85 Posts
September 06 2012 12:59 GMT
#27
Thanks, now I can feel worse about not having beta
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Reality_Seeker
Profile Joined July 2012
Bulgaria18 Posts
September 06 2012 13:15 GMT
#28
Is the Carrier still in the game?
marcussc2brasil
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil36 Posts
September 06 2012 13:20 GMT
#29
No.
Yes, there is StarCraft in Brazil! :-D
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
September 06 2012 16:11 GMT
#30
On September 06 2012 14:14 Dice17 wrote:
Cant wait to see this explote :D

FTFY

Thanks alot r1ch i was getting tire of all of these hots threads in general ♥
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 06 2012 16:46 GMT
#31
Thanks for separating the section, should make organization simpler
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 06 2012 16:56 GMT
#32
Awesome move, thanks TL
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Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
September 06 2012 17:06 GMT
#33
On September 06 2012 20:40 Xylocaine wrote:
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On September 06 2012 19:16 Naphal wrote:
walls of text, walls of text everywhere filled with opinions... i would be a happy nerd if someone could post all the new units with their actual stats, or refresh the liquipedia page! (it still shows the shredder)


Indeed, a sticky'ed (and often updated) thread that just lists all the modifications / balance changes / unit stats would be great. At the moment you have to skim through dozens of threads to actually grasp what's new in HOTS (and 99% of those threads are just whine about how automine at the start of matches made the game go totally FUBAR...)
I'd be glad to help if such a thread starts (though I don't have access to the beta so I'm probably not the best one to start it)


Ditto--If I can't play, I at least want to be able to theory-craft with some data to back me up. Please, next time one of you lucky people wants to post a long diatribe about auto-mine or the Warhound, please, use that time to give us some numbers to play with.
Make more anything.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
September 06 2012 18:01 GMT
#34
so far it looks like terran is playing pretty much only mech... and damn is it powerful
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MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
September 06 2012 19:51 GMT
#35
Nice.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
September 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#36
good now i can remove the other sub-tab
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1802 Posts
September 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#37
The SC2 general section was getting filled up with HotS stuff and I couldn't find out about other stuf, good on TL staff for the change!
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TheKwangBang
Profile Joined November 2010
United States15 Posts
September 06 2012 22:10 GMT
#38
With terran pretty much only going mech and toss not really having any bio units with range blinding cloud seems restricted to zvz how sad T.T
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
September 06 2012 22:52 GMT
#39
Woot! Single player forums are the best anyway. Plus, it will give us something to talk about besides the overachiever achievements.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
September 06 2012 22:58 GMT
#40
On September 06 2012 18:10 JerKy wrote:
Ohh

Does this mean one day the WoL subforum will be retired?

Seems likely
j.k.l
Profile Joined September 2012
112 Posts
September 06 2012 23:08 GMT
#41
I am not in the beta, and i hope to eventually join it. But from the videos of it that i have seen, i found my self unhappy with what i have seen from Protoss. Toss, is my favorite class to play so maybe i have a bias.

Here is my concern about removing carriers:

Originally Terran had their Thor's altered/removed for the implementation of warhounds, which made the concept of removing another classes units seem a tad bit more fair/balanced. But now Terran and Zerg keep EVERY unit that was in wings of liberty. i no longer see a logical reason to remove the carrier.

Is the concept of having carriers with the tempest (the new capital ship) OP? Well it might be except for the fact that it would take ridiculously long in the game to pull it off. This combo wouldn't be something someone can rush and get away with. Lets not forget that both units need their individual fleet beacon upgrades to be worth while. I think it would be unrealistic to assume that this combo would arise in most pro/ladder games. If by chance it does and is still OP, just change the purpose of the tempest in the Protoss ball.
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Sekken
Profile Joined August 2012
Afghanistan248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 23:24:05
September 06 2012 23:23 GMT
#42
... is it true they added a slect all army button? Somebody told me this on twitch chat- so it probably isn't very reliable.

If it's true though, I think that's over doing it :/
High dia terran, and slayer of Zergs -.-
DaMook
Profile Joined May 2012
United States21 Posts
September 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#43
I 'll be interested in checking this out, I wont get any sleep for a few days.
KsSoultouch
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada4 Posts
September 07 2012 00:05 GMT
#44
slush keep raping protoss with only 5 imba burrow units GG .. toss suck
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 00:11:25
September 07 2012 00:08 GMT
#45
Nevermind should have read the stickies in the HotS subforum first. But you should really copy/paste Pholons message

Note: The SC2 Single Player Forum is now the HotS Beta Forum until the expansion is released, and then it will be the Single Player forum again.


Into the OP of this thread.
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Holey
Profile Joined December 2010
United States68 Posts
September 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#46
Can't wait for HotS, so much more creativity
Wounded31
Profile Joined October 2011
124 Posts
September 08 2012 16:19 GMT
#47
I hope i get into the beta, cant wait for the changes that will come
MKP!
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
September 08 2012 23:33 GMT
#48
Awesome addition to forum. Thanks.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
September 09 2012 13:15 GMT
#49
Well, this was silly. Unless the software for the forums doesn't allow more than 5 subforums per section there was no reason to basically make disappear forever in a sea of HotS posts all the old SP discussions.
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