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On August 15 2012 06:03 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 05:56 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 15 2012 01:47 Kamwah wrote:
It's an A-move unit, they're giving Terrans a way to be like the other two races. It is not only A-move, it is a Marauder built from the Factory, filling the exact same role, except it deals extra damage vs mechanical instead of armored, so it won't be good against Roaches and Ultralisks. Or Zerg in general. It is terrible. they obviously wanted to give terran a mech option vs protoss because they can already mech vs zerg, that being said mines/warhound seem way too cost efficient. they have to do reduce the dps of warhounds and mines shouldnt be able to target workers/air units p.s: i only watched 5mins of the battle report, didnt see the terran make any mines but im assuming they still have it
Naturally there will likely be a lot of balance tweaking in the beta and beyond. It's just nice to let Terran have mech options vs. Protoss. 
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After seeing terran, i think the blizzard designers are big fans of transfromers.
Tbh i don't get the point of the warhound, i thought it was so suppossed to be an antiair unit, like the goliath in bw.
But making a mech version marauder why will you get tanks, just for the range?
After seeing all the new units, i don't think any of this units really fits in the game.
I hope hots will be a big fail. sry 
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Honestly, I liked the original plans for it better when it replaced the Thor. I can't believe it's back for HotS. It's wonky and terrible, and Blizzard has said that they don't like it. Yet, for some reason, the are bringing it back with no changes.
Also, I don't see how a Protoss is going to stop a battle-hellion/warhound army. It will roll everything that isn't stargate, and sky toss is ass against Terran.
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On August 15 2012 06:32 WeRRa wrote:After seeing terran, i think the blizzard designers are big fans of transfromers. Tbh i don't get the point of the warhound, i thought it was so suppossed to be an antiair unit, like the goliath in bw. But making a mech version marauder why will you get tanks, just for the range? After seeing all the new units, i don't think any of this units really fits in the game. I hope hots will be a big fail. sry
Why would you hope it's a failure? Why would you not hope that your perceptions are actually incorrect and that HotS will be awesome?
I don't get people sometimes.
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Actually, you can kite marines with warhounds.
There speed i really incredible.
Kiting will be their micro
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On August 15 2012 06:36 lorestarcraft wrote:
Actually, you can kite marines with warhounds.
There speed i really incredible.
Kiting will be their micro
There is no way that you can kite stimmed marines. I don't know the stats, but I feel like it's a safe assumption.
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On August 15 2012 05:27 PauseBreak wrote:
Great conclusive argument points from the SC community.
1. Its iconic.
2. Its ugly.
No wonder Blizzard doesn't listen more to the community. =\
Oh noes people saying there opinions on a community forum on a thread that specifically asks for that communities opinions on the thing that the opinions were given for? YOUR ALL IDIOTS BLIZZARD HATES YOU
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On August 15 2012 06:38 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 06:36 lorestarcraft wrote:
Actually, you can kite marines with warhounds.
There speed i really incredible.
Kiting will be their micro There is no way that you can kite stimmed marines. I don't know the stats, but I feel like it's a safe assumption.
Marine speed: 2.25(Stim +1.125) < Warhound speed: 2.81 < Stalker speed: 2.9531
Range 7 vs range 5.
With these stats, it is safe to say that the warhound would be able to kite marines unless they stimmed. Even then, with such long range and so much damage per volly, it is doubtful that would be a good idea.
The thing is nearly as zippy as a stalker.
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Look at that, a thread full of game designers.
You like/don't like a unit that may be implemented into the game... so what? I don't get the idea behind this thread, what are you trying to accomplish?
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On August 15 2012 06:35 iamcaustic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 06:32 WeRRa wrote:After seeing terran, i think the blizzard designers are big fans of transfromers. Tbh i don't get the point of the warhound, i thought it was so suppossed to be an antiair unit, like the goliath in bw. But making a mech version marauder why will you get tanks, just for the range? After seeing all the new units, i don't think any of this units really fits in the game. I hope hots will be a big fail. sry Why would you hope it's a failure? Why would you not hope that your perceptions are actually incorrect and that HotS will be awesome? I don't get people sometimes.
Because then maybe the Blizzard developers will actually learn. We're at the point where we can't hope for unexpected success anymore. Blizzard has made a long string of terrible design decisions (between both WoL and D3) and they need a fucking wake-up call or this game is going to be dead.
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I think the Warhound is fine if it stays as fast as it is right now. Just balance out the DPS and you'll have a unit fun to micro simply because it's fast.
It doesn't feel mech-y? I don't care at all, I don't like mech ;D
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blizzard could at least look at the rocket ability and find some way to make it work in TvZ.
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On August 15 2012 06:48 Asmodeusx wrote:
Look at that, a thread full of game designers.
You like/don't like a unit that may be implemented into the game... so what? I don't get the idea behind this thread, what are you trying to accomplish?
Oh, they have ideas. Vague idea like:
- Make it a mech unit!(WTF does that mean)
- Make it require micro!(I always though micro was based on the match up between two units and their numbers, not the unit itself)
- Make it pretty!(have you seen anyone in the terran race, looks they are not going for)
So yeah, Blizzard should do that, whatever that is.
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Its awful....we want mech not a move
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They should remove the Warhound and replace it by the 'Mountain King'.
That would be almost exactly the same unit as in WC3, so it would take easily 50 supply of units to kill.
The only difference would be that 'Storm Bolt' would get a new animation, a 50 second long cinematic, as spells in FFX tend to have.
During this, the game is paused for both players, while they watch the awe-inspiring Storm Bolt hit its target.
Cooldown should stay the same, so once a Terran has a factory, we'd spend most of the time watching the 50 second Storm Bolt animation.
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warhound looks good to me , but if blizzard thinks they can create an even better looking model, im down for that.
i dont get why the hate for the unit by some of yall.
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I feel like I'm one of the only people who absolutely love the warhound and its design. I'm actually switching to terran because the warhound, along with battle hellion and widow mine, make it seem like terran will be tons of fun to play. Mech is the future.
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Here is a very simple solution to the Warhound problem.
Put the freaking Goliath back.
It was badass.
If microed properly you could do wonders. (Boxer vs mass mutas)
It was very mechish.
It had AA.
Again, I don't see why Blizzard is refusing to see the truth, the Warhound sucks and the Goliath is awesome.
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I would prefer warhound be slightly weaker somehow, and have the tank buffed, to avoid the mech composition from being warhound dominated.
otherwise, the warhound is pretty interesting despite so many people saying it's just a marauder
the supply and cost is interesting, giving it uses in TvZ even though zerg has no mechanical units
thors will still see use in TvP as they will still have some specific situations they are useful for
warhound in TvT... not sure at all. What's with the breaking siege ling line thing? You want it to be mass warhounds vs mass warhounds? what?
But yes please change the look of the warhound. When I was looking at it with the rest of the mech army in the battle report, it wasn't so bad I guess. But it doesn't look cool at all! How come protoss units can look cool but not terran? Haha... please use a better model <_> (probably too late though...)
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With almost everyone saying the Warhound is ugly, there is no way Blizzard doesn't change the model. Not even considering the balance or easiness of the unit, we should at the very least get something that looks cool.
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