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DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
November 25 2011 22:30 GMT
#221
On November 13 2011 19:14 Dante.StarCraft wrote:
What Zic said. The evo chamber is dark.

[image loading]

Looks like she turned white again.


I wouldn't call that "white" per say; the skin is smooth, and has a nice dark to it. Melanin.

Either way is fine though.
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
November 27 2011 07:42 GMT
#222
This good enough, then?

[image loading]
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 28 2011 06:12 GMT
#223
One thing which struck me from the QnA, and then playing the campaign again, is their references to the other effects of the artifact. Paraphrasing, Tychus warns Raynor before All In about how using the Artifact could have unforeseen consequences and is ignored. In the QnA the panel hinted that there are some unforeseen consequences of using the Artifact - but I can't even begin to hazard a guess at what those are.

Also I'm secretly hoping that the Dark Voice manipulated Zeratul on Aiur through using the "Overmind" and through encouraging Raynor to use the Artifact to save Kerrigan they have unwittingly awakened all the Hybrids from their slumber in various holding facilities and have set in motion their very destruction.
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Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
November 28 2011 18:02 GMT
#224
On November 28 2011 15:12 Plexa wrote:
One thing which struck me from the QnA, and then playing the campaign again, is their references to the other effects of the artifact. Paraphrasing, Tychus warns Raynor before All In about how using the Artifact could have unforeseen consequences and is ignored. In the QnA the panel hinted that there are some unforeseen consequences of using the Artifact - but I can't even begin to hazard a guess at what those are.

Also I'm secretly hoping that the Dark Voice manipulated Zeratul on Aiur through using the "Overmind" and through encouraging Raynor to use the Artifact to save Kerrigan they have unwittingly awakened all the Hybrids from their slumber in various holding facilities and have set in motion their very destruction.


I think the Dark Voice (or Narud) did manipulate everything behind the artifact for their own ends. In the secret mission in SC:BW Duran was making the Hybrids that Zeratul found and now in SC2 he wants us to go find this Artifact and use it. It seems obvious to me that it does indeed do things that is not so good for the rest of Universe.
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:09:41
November 28 2011 22:04 GMT
#225
Artifact, when activated, probably acted as a beacon transmission across the universe indicating that the key being (vessel prototype) (Kerrigan) has been located and where. Using it was also most likely a step in the process of Kerrigan becoming ready to be replicated into a Xel'Naga body/vessel.

I believe Kerrigan now (after the effects of the Artifact) posseses Zerg and Terran essences/DNA in harmony. She is only missing Protoss. I believe Duran's/Narud's experiments are there solely for finding out how to reliably infuse the protoss essence/DNA into a zerg-like host. The artifact's use could be a primer in allowing a vessel to possess different essences in harmony.

4 years is plenty of time to re-establish a military force when the core foundations of the miltiary (training, recruitment, etc.) were not severely hampered previously. Remember that during those 4 years Mengsk was employing Propaganda which adds speed to the recruitment process.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
November 29 2011 06:54 GMT
#226
It's hard to guess what the artifact does because we might be lacking sufficient information to actually make the guess.
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
November 29 2011 07:53 GMT
#227
If Zeratul was manipulated I'd like to see if he'll sacrifice himself in order to 'save the universe' or will he defend his actions throughout the whole plot (including LoTV). It would be shame though if another protoss hero has to die.
protect me from what I want
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 15:01:39
November 30 2011 14:57 GMT
#228
On September 16 2011 06:46 Goldfish wrote:
Here is what will happen in HotS and later: (Any bets?)
+ Show Spoiler +

After the events of Wings of Liberty and after HotS - Plot advances!

At the end of HotS Kerrigan is reunited with Jim Raynor and then suddenly both runs into Tassadar!

Tassadar is like "I have come back from the dead to help".

Both Raynor and Kerrigan are glad.

Cue LotV - Tassadar, Raynor, and Kerrigan contacts Zeratul and help.

Tassadar came back strong, he is able to breath in space and fly/move faster than light. He can shoot energy beams of destruction able to destroy planets!

In fact Tassadar is apparently 50x stronger than Kerrigan! Yep that Kerrigan that can destroy BCs with her mind? Pfft Tassadar can do the same except destroy planets and breath in space. Tassadar said he trained and practice nearly non-stop under 10,000x gravity (gravity comparable to Earth) until he is this strong!

And they fight hybrids, try to reunite the Protoss... basically Tassadar is owning it up and doing all the work while Zeratul, Raynor, and Kerrigan all sit back and party. All is going well.

*Cue the gang of heroes collecting <insert plot relic>. Raynor orders his henchmen to collect the plot relic.

However a blast comes out of no where and kills all their henchmen.

It turns out the blast came from Tassadar!

*Raynor, Zeratul, Kerrigan all look in shock and all crap their pants (for those who have pants anyway)*.

Raynor: Tassadar Why? HOW COULD YOU KILL OUR HENCHMEN!

*Another Tassadar shows up (what there's two Tassadars now?*

Tassadar (Actually "Fake Tassadar") comes and says "Wait! The blast wasn't from me. In fact I have something I need to tell you guys..."

Real Tassadar (who will now be referred to as Evil Tassadar) states "el oh el! Yes that "Tassadar" who accompanies you is a phony. I'm the real Tassadar and I am evil! Blarharharharhar. Blarharharara."

Fake Tassadar - Yes I am not Tassadar. I was a Protoss who was awed by Tassadar's accomplishments. He saved everyone! I felt Protoss... the Universe needed him again. So I became Tassadar! I performed surgery to look like him.. to sound like him.. to even think like him. In fact I am Tassadar... but I am really not. I am merely someone who tried to impersonate and mimic that heroic Tassadar who saved us all.

But I am surprised, how could this be. Tassadar what have you done!? To find out that someone who I looked up to be a ruthless murderer. WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

Evil Tassadar: Blarharharhar. I will explain:

They all find out that the Real Tassadar did not really sacrifice himself to destroy the Overmind. No he consumed the Overmind from the inside, absorbing its knowledge and therefore growing stronger! Everything was all a farce. He never wanted to save anyone. He wanted power. POWER!

In fact Tassadar (the real and evil one) is now 300x stronger than Kerrigan and can destroy planets easily.

Raynor: Oh noes what do we do? Run away? No we can't outrun Tassadar. Oh noes oh noes oh noes guys what do we do?

Fake Tassadar has a plan. He will sacrifice himself but he needs someone like say Zeratul, to help. Zeratul agrees with it and they both combine into a super mega Archon.

Fassatul (Fake Tassadar + Zeratul) proves to be a match for evil Tassadar. However Evil Tassadar reveals he was only using 50% of his full power all along. He powers up and kills Fassatul.

As Fassatul lay dying, Raynor picks him up in his arm and a scene similar to this plays out:



Fassatul: Raynor... your son will bring the universe to ruin. Your son will save the universe!
*Fassatul dies*.

Raynor: No FASSATUL! This can't be happening! WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!

Legacy of The Void ends with Fake Tassadar and Zeratul dead. The dominion gone. Raynor and Kerrigan powerless against evil Tassadar or the Hybrids.

The end... or is it?
*Legacy of the Void ends here*.
*Cue fourth expansion pack "Rise of the Reapers".

In the fourth expansion pack you play as Duran (a reaper) and Dark Voice (who is revealed also be a Reaper.) Both are just subordinates commanded by a the Reaper leader in another universe.

No not those Terran units but reapers are robots from another world or universe or something. Basically they're the masterminds behind the Hybrids all along (and not some rogue Xel'Naga but evil robots from another universe!).

You don't know much about the Reapers or where they come from but all you know is they have destroyed countless other universes before (in the SC1 multiverse, which acts more like planets rather than parallel dimensions) and they want this one too! Also they have masterminded the plan of creating hybrids and are using them plus a small amount of Reapers to take out this universe!

Goal of expansion pack estroy everything. Take out Evil Tassadar. Play as Reaper/Hybrids*.

At the end of the expansion you face off against Evil Tassadar. However your army of reapers and hybrids aren't enough against Evil Tassadar.

So Duran decides to call for backup as this is only "5% of the Reaper's full potential".

However one of the hybrids has actually hit an ancient temple which stands conspicuously in the middle of space!

Cue something similar to this happens (replace "Masari" with "Xel'Naga" ). Also cue Evil Tassadar and the Reaper/Hybrids crapping their pants:



That's right the Xel'Naga are back with a humongous ship (basically the size of a planet). Turns out the "few" Xel'Naga who survived were tired of being pacifists and decided to focus on weapons and other stuff to get revenge against the Overmind and all others who defied them in the past and who currently defy them still!

Seeing this, Evil Tassadar and the Reaper/Hybrid combo all focus their blasts on the Xel'Naga ship but absolutely nothing happens because the Xel'Naga are too badass.

*Rise of the Reapers story ends here.
*Cue fifth expansion pack - "Xel'Naga strikes back" (also lacking "of" in the title because that's how the Xel'Naga roll).

In the fifth expansion you play as the Xel'Naga to face off against Evil Tassadar and the hybrids. Xel'Naga plays unique compared to the other three races:

1. None of their units/structures cost anything, It's all free. "It was said the Xel'Naga could create energy from nothing!".

2. They have heroes similar to WC3.

3. They're overpowered.

The final expansion pack ends with the remaining Xel'Naga facing off against Evil Tassadar. Tassadar powers up to his full power but dies. The Xel'Naga too have fallen.

*Cue above MGS-like scene with Raynor (again). Raynor holds Tassadar in his arms.

Tassadar: I was jealous of you and Kerrigan and Fenix. Why was I not invited to your party that day!!!? Forgive me Raynor...

*Evil Tassadar dies*.

Raynor: TASSADAR! No this can't be happening, not again. WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!

SC2 ends with a cliff hanger. The reapers/hybrids are still out there. Raynor, and Kerrigan are basically powerless to do anything.

The Xel'naga, Tassadar, Fake Tassadar, and Zeratul are all gone. What will become of them?

Actually I lied cue last (the 6th) expansion pack for SC2:

The "United Earth Directorate Strikes Back".

The UED returns with a vengeance with their high powered Tachyon lasers of doom. They'll show everyone how it's done.




Please do not submit this to blizzard... They could take it ...

On November 25 2011 12:50 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 11:02 DeepElemBlues wrote:
What I'd like to know is,

How, in four years, did the Dominion go from having a decimated military at the end of BW to having one big enough in WoL that half of it was strong enough to blitzkrieg right into Kerrigan's primary Hive cluster on Char. That's some rebuilding program Arcturus went on.

Dude, barracks are built in 65 seconds.


With your signature just below it's even funnier :p
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NeoCyberD
Profile Joined September 2010
Switzerland65 Posts
December 05 2011 07:20 GMT
#229
On November 29 2011 07:04 willoc wrote:
Artifact, when activated, probably acted as a beacon transmission across the universe indicating that the key being (vessel prototype) (Kerrigan) has been located and where. Using it was also most likely a step in the process of Kerrigan becoming ready to be replicated into a Xel'Naga body/vessel.

I believe Kerrigan now (after the effects of the Artifact) posseses Zerg and Terran essences/DNA in harmony. She is only missing Protoss. I believe Duran's/Narud's experiments are there solely for finding out how to reliably infuse the protoss essence/DNA into a zerg-like host. The artifact's use could be a primer in allowing a vessel to possess different essences in harmony.

4 years is plenty of time to re-establish a military force when the core foundations of the miltiary (training, recruitment, etc.) were not severely hampered previously. Remember that during those 4 years Mengsk was employing Propaganda which adds speed to the recruitment process.


That could be an interesting theory...
We know that Kerrigan made an backup with her memory...
And that she's slowly regaining it on the missions...
She know's more than we saw in WoL...

There might be an interesting plot coming ;D
Man I'm so excited XD
There is no such thing as coincidence...
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
December 06 2011 15:15 GMT
#230
On November 29 2011 03:02 Fluffboll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 15:12 Plexa wrote:
One thing which struck me from the QnA, and then playing the campaign again, is their references to the other effects of the artifact. Paraphrasing, Tychus warns Raynor before All In about how using the Artifact could have unforeseen consequences and is ignored. In the QnA the panel hinted that there are some unforeseen consequences of using the Artifact - but I can't even begin to hazard a guess at what those are.

Also I'm secretly hoping that the Dark Voice manipulated Zeratul on Aiur through using the "Overmind" and through encouraging Raynor to use the Artifact to save Kerrigan they have unwittingly awakened all the Hybrids from their slumber in various holding facilities and have set in motion their very destruction.


I think the Dark Voice (or Narud) did manipulate everything behind the artifact for their own ends. In the secret mission in SC:BW Duran was making the Hybrids that Zeratul found and now in SC2 he wants us to go find this Artifact and use it. It seems obvious to me that it does indeed do things that is not so good for the rest of Universe.


I have too speculated of whether the Overmind is trustworthy. Kerrigan is alive and deinfested instead of dead. But what if she is not the one to "save" the universe? We are lead to think she might be. But that means Zeratul wants her alive, and that Duran wants her alive. What, they both do?

For all I know Kerrigan might have become a Hybrid commander now because of the artifact.
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 16:36:47
December 06 2011 16:36 GMT
#231
Kerrigen is only partially de-infested. She still has funky hair, eyebrows and god knows what other nasty things are still in there. Not to forget she was a green-eyed redhead and now she's something else entirely.

In fact, take a good look at where hair comes out of her head, that's not human at all.
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 06 2011 23:00 GMT
#232
I always kinda assumed that the dark voice manipulated the terraan forces and valerian to collect the artifact so he could use them to get rid of kerrigan since he saw her as the only thread? Maybe he didnt know shed become a human again or maybe (seems more likely) he just didnt care as long as she wasnt the queen of blades anymore?

Idk, anything else seems like a pretty bad ass-pull xD
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 07 2011 04:08 GMT
#233
From the pics it looks like turning Zerg did wonders for Kerrigan's skin. The people doing marketing for l'oreal would shit themselves if they got wind of this.
Logic is Overrated
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
December 07 2011 09:09 GMT
#234
On December 07 2011 08:00 -y0shi- wrote:
I always kinda assumed that the dark voice manipulated the terraan forces and valerian to collect the artifact so he could use them to get rid of kerrigan since he saw her as the only thread? Maybe he didnt know shed become a human again or maybe (seems more likely) he just didnt care as long as she wasnt the queen of blades anymore?

Idk, anything else seems like a pretty bad ass-pull xD


He'd had to know, because it's the reason they were doing it.
Ordok
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden26 Posts
December 09 2011 07:32 GMT
#235
I am getting worried about Hots right now. According to the leaked schedule(which actually been accurate so far) Hots should have been released at the same time as D3. If i am not mistaken blizz also stated about 18 months between sc expansions.

This should have been now. D3 was postponed to early 2012 but so far not a single Word on Hots. Do you think a flood of information Will come as soon as d3 is released?
NeoCyberD
Profile Joined September 2010
Switzerland65 Posts
December 28 2011 07:11 GMT
#236
hots and d3 wont come together...
that would be a hard marketing fail from blizzard...
and they know that...

d3 will come first...
and afterwards there will be sc2:hots...
There is no such thing as coincidence...
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
December 28 2011 21:12 GMT
#237
Here is some parallel discussion from the Blizzard website. Some people think the Dark Voice is Samir Duran which is interesting.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2593008549?page=3
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
December 29 2011 12:50 GMT
#238
sorry couldnt find someone else is there price tag for it already ?
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
December 29 2011 17:35 GMT
#239
On December 29 2011 21:50 noD wrote:
sorry couldnt find someone else is there price tag for it already ?


noDice
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
December 30 2011 02:39 GMT
#240
Interesting discussion in ScArmory, with different conclusions.

http://sc2armory.com/forums/topic/23118

They believe the game will happen in 2506, two years after WoL... which would mean Sarah Kerrigan would be sleeping/hanging out in Hyperion por all this time. Which I don't believe. I think they probably understand this because of a typo in a SC:L article. But the OP, stebo88, says the date is "confirmed". He played the game at BlizzCon. Hm.

Fun stuff the SCArmory guys figured out:

1) Predators, Terran air units from alpha, may be coming back;
2) In the trailer release in May, Nova ghosts (or specters?) shoot the weird white marines; but in the Blizzcon trailer, Kerrigan is attacking those same marines, inside Hyperion's bridge. Who are those guys, and why do everybody kill them?
3) In the Zerg invasion scenes (almost surely in Korhal?), a huge shadow can be seem in the skies. Maybe just clouds, but maybe the Leviathan itself?
4) The Protoss female's name is Lessara. Kerrigan is nice to her.

Its a fun read.
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