EPTLeaked Heart of the Swarm end cutscene? - Page 20
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latan
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skipgamer
Australia701 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Anyway, I'm glad it's just an animatic, there are still Soooo many things they can change. Interesting to see where they are headed with kerrigan though, I was hoping she would keep her sexy form  The cutscene itself is pretty boring and doesn't do too much with the story but... What are you expecting really from a 3 minute cutscene? Oh and I totally don't get the last part :s | ||
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nehl
Germany270 Posts
On December 09 2010 23:59 PerfectTear wrote: Well they said way back that In HoTS the main charachter is Kerrigan and something about regaining/gaining power, and romours about rpg elemets. So it's posible that at the begining of HoTS she is human, and at the end of the campaign she is back to being infestesed and at full strength. My personal bet is that instead of the lab and tech research points, you are upgrading Kerrigan in HoTS. no it is not possible. i think i read that HotS plays before WoL, so mengsk cannot die. it simply is a fake. | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
On December 11 2010 09:55 nehl wrote: no it is not possible. i think i read that HotS plays before WoL, so mengsk cannot die. it simply is a fake. i should applaud you at being so wrong in so few sentances. | ||
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TheTuna
United States286 Posts
If this is legit, it'll probably be all about her making some "noble sacrifice" by reinfesting herself to free the Zerg from the Hybrids. Except that just doesn't make sense on so many levels; why not have th Xel'Naga artifact simply free her mind from the Zerg directives, then? Two things about that ending don't make sense, either: a) It's implied that the Zerg are key to the fight against the Hybrids, and even if the Zerg are freed from the specter of Hybrid control, why the fuck wouldn't you keep the army of unstoppable, unfeeling, vicious killing machines around to fight the Big Bad? b) As pointed out, whenever the Zerg have been unlead before, they go on a vicious killing rampage. I really hope this isn't the ending on so many levels, because it makes no damn sense. If this has been leaked in an attempt to make Blizzard realize how retarded the ending is and somehow change it, I applaud that leaker. | ||
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Slivered Skin
Canada347 Posts
On December 11 2010 15:43 TheTuna wrote: I just don't understand why we would go through the whole trouble of Wings of Liberty just to have Kerrigan reinfest herself, that's bullshit. If this is legit, it'll probably be all about her making some "noble sacrifice" by reinfesting herself to free the Zerg from the Hybrids. Except that just doesn't make sense on so many levels; why not have th Xel'Naga artifact simply free her mind from the Zerg directives, then? Two things about that ending don't make sense, either: a) It's implied that the Zerg are key to the fight against the Hybrids, and even if the Zerg are freed from the specter of Hybrid control, why the fuck wouldn't you keep the army of unstoppable, unfeeling, vicious killing machines around to fight the Big Bad? b) As pointed out, whenever the Zerg have been unlead before, they go on a vicious killing rampage. I really hope this isn't the ending on so many levels, because it makes no damn sense. If this has been leaked in an attempt to make Blizzard realize how retarded the ending is and somehow change it, I applaud that leaker. They probably de-infested her so that she could regain her humanity, and will re-infest her next game so that they can have their "RPG" elements that they've been talking about. A lot about the story doesn't make sense. I've given up all hope on making sense of the story or trying to understand how grown men could think this kind of plot and dialogue is decent at all. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On December 11 2010 09:55 nehl wrote: no it is not possible. i think i read that HotS plays before WoL, so mengsk cannot die. it simply is a fake. Unless you have a concrete source, then some random rumor you heard doesn't mean anything. Not only that, Metzen does the voice for both Mengsk and Raynor in that scene. Sounds fairly legitimate to me. | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
SPOILER INCOMING: + Show Spoiler + From Zeratul's stories, the visions have shown that the Hybrids are capable of controlling the Zerg and uses them to wipe out the Galaxy of life. The Overmind forsaw this, and thus created Kerrigan for her to create an independent control of the swarm (Similar to events during the Brood wars where Zerg control was split between the Cerebrates and Kerrigan) and save the Zerg from being slaves from the Hybrids. Without Kerrigan, the hybrids would simply take control of the Zerg and kill everyone with it. | ||
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Conrose
437 Posts
Now, lets look at the "Absence" of a hive mind, but not the absence of a higher sentience. In a number of stories, there are zerg who are surgically operated on to remove their connection with the zerg hive mind while retaining some measure of telepathy, the result was that they could be controlled by Ghosts. Kerrigan herself before her infestation was involved in such experiments. One ghost apparently took over the mind of a Cerebrate that tried to assimilate him and took control of a brood in this manner. Additionally, in the Brood Wars Zerg campaign, the mission after she betrays Fenix and Mengsk on Korhal IV, Kerrigan was attacked by the UED and their pet zerg, requiring scientists to be on site to maintain control over the broods they were using. So I hypothesize that during HotS, While Kerrigan is mutating herself to become stronger, she's also mutating the Swarm and further developing their individual sentience until at the end each strain right down to the feral zergling becomes capable of individual thought. | ||
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voltaic
1071 Posts
And will this hots cinematic be prerendered? i think not, because they used the models from the editor, which were used for the ingame cinematics, not the models for the cgi cinematics. Maybe it's the intro of Hots (okay, Blizzard has to explain then a few things: why is Kerrigan infested again? who is this clone of Kerrigan with a barcode on her forehead? what is this thing in Mengsk hand?) If it's the intro, it will be about, how Kerrigan "helps find the answers" etc.. Any thoughts? | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On December 11 2010 18:37 Denda Reloaded wrote: One question: did "the third floor" do the cgi cinematics or the ingame cinematics? And will this hots cinematic be prerendered? i think not, because they used the models from the editor, which were used for the ingame cinematics, not the models for the cgi cinematics. Maybe it's the intro of Hots (okay, Blizzard has to explain then a few things: why is Kerrigan infested again? who is this clone of Kerrigan with a barcode on her forehead? what is this thing in Mengsk hand?) If it's the intro, it will be about, how Kerrigan "helps find the answers" etc.. Any thoughts? If that was the intro it would be even worse. It would make zero sense. Only argument for the intro suggestion is that the game is played in flashbacks to that event and maybe few missions after that. If that is the case I have to go back to it being even worse. | ||
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sup3rchan
Canada127 Posts
Or my mind is just furiously coming up with ideas in denial. DONT LET ME DOWN BLIZZARD, please let this be an epic troll......... | ||
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hitthat
Poland2315 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On December 11 2010 20:56 sup3rchan wrote: If it was really created in 2009, then I think its just an alternate ending to WOL. The ending we have now is actually the 2nd last mission - she becomes "humanized" again and then her and Raynor hit up Mengsk's crib and kill him, releasing the Zerg. And now we can be a cerebrate or overmind or whatever to control the zerg in HOTS! Or my mind is just furiously coming up with ideas in denial. DONT LET ME DOWN BLIZZARD, please let this be an epic troll......... yknow, SC2 was meant to have a Terran/Zerg/Protoss campaign, so this was probably made before they decided to split the campaign into 3 parts (which then by theory there should be a previs for the protoss ending as well) I'm really glad they decided to split the campaign through three installemnts, because that previs was fucking horrible, and now they have time to think over how shitty that was and try to at least somewhat rescue the plot :l god knows how fucking bad it would've been if all 3 parts of the campaign was released together >< | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On December 11 2010 23:02 GizmoPT wrote: i kinda wished blizzard would do smthing epic like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LkuXnBQCo90 xP That is absolutely sick. But really, that storyline appeals to me more than a sci-fi storyline anyway. But you can't really expect this kind of masterpiece coming from Blizzard storywise anymore. | ||
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iGX
Australia414 Posts
at least that would've been more appealing. get ready for StarCraft 2 - Heart of the Spartans | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:50 skipgamer wrote: wow, read back a few pages for links, it's really not that hard to read before you post -_- at least skim the thread... There's no link in this thread for the 2nd video. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On December 11 2010 23:02 GizmoPT wrote: i kinda wished blizzard would do smthing epic like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LkuXnBQCo90 xP That was amazing. I used to get nerd chills like that from blizzard vids.... not so much anymore :-( | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On December 11 2010 15:43 TheTuna wrote: I just don't understand why we would go through the whole trouble of Wings of Liberty just to have Kerrigan reinfest herself, that's bullshit. If this is legit, it'll probably be all about her making some "noble sacrifice" by reinfesting herself to free the Zerg from the Hybrids. Except that just doesn't make sense on so many levels; why not have th Xel'Naga artifact simply free her mind from the Zerg directives, then? Two things about that ending don't make sense, either: a) It's implied that the Zerg are key to the fight against the Hybrids, and even if the Zerg are freed from the specter of Hybrid control, why the fuck wouldn't you keep the army of unstoppable, unfeeling, vicious killing machines around to fight the Big Bad? b) As pointed out, whenever the Zerg have been unlead before, they go on a vicious killing rampage. I really hope this isn't the ending on so many levels, because it makes no damn sense. If this has been leaked in an attempt to make Blizzard realize how retarded the ending is and somehow change it, I applaud that leaker. Kerrigan needs to reinfest herself to help mutate the Zerg to a point where they can have free will. They were designed to be a race requiring a powerful psychic being (initially The Overmind) to control them. That is why the Zerg are so susceptible to manipulation by technology (Psi Emitters) or psychic beings (Ghosts). Without control, they will obviously be feral. However, with evolution, they can and obviously will be free to make their own choices and such. "The Zerg are free now. Slaves to no one...not even me." This quote from Kerrigan in the leaked cinematic backs that up. Also, although old information, it is said that Kerrigan (and probably the Zerg) will gain new powers throughout the Heart of the Swarm campaign, and clearly she is Infested there. She probably regains her powers but retains her sanity, as she now has knowledge of the intricacies of Zerg biology. My guess is that in Heart of the Swarm, the Dark Voice will use his Hybrid agents in attempt to control the Swarm. Hybrids are immensely psychic Protoss who also have Zerg DNA in them. Seems like the perfect candidate to manipulate the Swarm. However, Kerrigan will successfully mutate them to the point of "freedom." The Zerg, free from oppression, will be able to come up with their own decisions to determine what's best for them. Guess what? The best thing for them will be to stop the Dark Voice and his Hybrids. Why is this? Well, if you play the mission "In Utter Darkness," after the last Protoss falls, the Zerg are now expendable. As the Dark Voice puts it: "As I was your beginning - so shall I be...your end." He is obviously referring to the Zerg, since the Protoss are already completely wiped out at that point. Then he proceeds to kill the entire Zerg Swarm effortlessly. You see all the Zerg and Zerg buildings explode into blood and guts. Obviously, the combination of Zerg and Protoss forces (and RAYNORS RAIDERS :D :D) will be too much for the Dark Voice to handle. Besides, chances are the Dark Voice (aka The Fallen One) is some FALLEN XEL'NAGA. Remember what happened when the full fury of the Zerg Swarm was unleashed on the Xel'Naga? Yep. They had to GG. The only thing that confuses me a bit is what Kerrigan is speaking of when she says "I keep my end of the bargain, and leave humanity to it's fate." I wonder if something catastrophic happens to humanity in the process? Does Kerrigan go insane sometime during the HotS campaign? Perhaps herself being controlled by Mengsk's agents? And then rescued by Raynor? She does mention that Arcturus has turned them all into monsters. Mengsk mentions that he wouldn't keep her close without some kind of insurance (the device in her brain that he uses to electrocute her.) Another thing said during "In Utter Darkness" from Zeratul is that the Terrans have been consumed. Hopefully due to Kerrigan's intervention, they will be saved. Or perhaps, she means that she has sacrificed her humanity for good, or at least the time being. Maybe her end of the bargain was to become and/or stay Zerg so she can eventually help the freed Zerg "find the answer." Oh well, I guess that will be the mystery left for us to find out in the game. :D P.S. <CUE EPIC TRANSFORMERS MUSIC> "CHANGE OF PLANS" -JIMMY RAYNOR ^^ | ||
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