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On December 10 2010 09:09 MavercK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 08:45 Billy_ wrote:On December 10 2010 02:18 Krigwin wrote:
So let me get this straight:
BW Zerg = mindless killing machines that rampage and slaughter each other in the absence of psionic domination. Totally unstoppable personification of nature.
The BW Zerg attacked each other because of the psi disruptor didn't they? Replay the BW zerg campaign, they start off as murderous, but the ones on Braxis were docile presumably because they were not in range of the psi disruptor. It's speculation on my part however, BW kind of made it a plot hole. with overmind - focused. aligned under a single leader. psi disrupter made them go crazy i think. or didn't it just lure them to that area? without overmind or any leader - rampaging and mindless. almost all broods split into warring factions. they were mindless at the beginning of BW because wasn't the overmind just killed? they had no leader. kerrigan was trying to rally them/gather her strength whatever to gain full control.
So the zerg can get along with their own broods if they're leaderless? Damn it, I wish that Blizzard scrapped the UED chapter so we could have seen Daggoths point of view.
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Cheesy or not, I kinda liked this ending.
Too bad it is gonna get scrapped now because it got leaked
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well that was awful as fuck - I hope this isn't real...
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On December 10 2010 09:52 Billy_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 09:09 MavercK wrote:On December 10 2010 08:45 Billy_ wrote:On December 10 2010 02:18 Krigwin wrote:
So let me get this straight:
BW Zerg = mindless killing machines that rampage and slaughter each other in the absence of psionic domination. Totally unstoppable personification of nature.
The BW Zerg attacked each other because of the psi disruptor didn't they? Replay the BW zerg campaign, they start off as murderous, but the ones on Braxis were docile presumably because they were not in range of the psi disruptor. It's speculation on my part however, BW kind of made it a plot hole. with overmind - focused. aligned under a single leader. psi disrupter made them go crazy i think. or didn't it just lure them to that area? without overmind or any leader - rampaging and mindless. almost all broods split into warring factions. they were mindless at the beginning of BW because wasn't the overmind just killed? they had no leader. kerrigan was trying to rally them/gather her strength whatever to gain full control. So the zerg can get along with their own broods if they're leaderless? Damn it, I wish that Blizzard scrapped the UED chapter so we could have seen Daggoths point of view.
well the way the zerg seemed to work was the overmind controlled the cerebrates who controlled their broods. i guess if the overmind wanted to he could do it all but who knows.
with kerrigan it was only her. she had no cerebrates (except you. the player in the Brood War campaign. i wonder what happened to that cerebrate? a side-storyline thats probably more interesting than anything Blizzard have written so far).
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Freeing the Zerg was the very reason that the overmind created the Queen of Blades in the first place, so that's in line with the established lore. How Zerglings will handle free will, I don't know, they act like feral animals in the absence of hydras and up even with the hivemind available.
This also isn't the true ending considering that it's only the second chapter and still needs to leave things open enough to allow for Legacy of the Void to work... such as how WoL had to end with the so called "Cliff Hanger" to allow for HotS to start the way they wanted it to start and take the story the direction they wanted to take it.
Now, what I would love is a redone cinematic for the Destruction of the Overmind.
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That was even more cheesy than WoL's dialogue. I really hope that because of this leak Blizzard decides to revise their scene/dialogue some, hopefully for the better.
FRIEND RAYNOR
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On December 10 2010 09:41 pzea469 wrote:
i think u guys are judging this unfinished video too harshly. Even if this IS the true ending of HOTS, blizzard has the whole game to explain things and for it to be a good story.
This. You can't assume there are plotholes when you haven't even seen 99% of the game.
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On December 10 2010 11:24 TedJustice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 09:41 pzea469 wrote:
i think u guys are judging this unfinished video too harshly. Even if this IS the true ending of HOTS, blizzard has the whole game to explain things and for it to be a good story. This. You can't assume there are plotholes when you haven't even seen 99% of the game.
There would have to be at least a few plot holes in order to leave room for Legacy of the Void... SCI left plot holes at the end of every campaign to make room for the next campaign (Well, admittedly a lot of us just assumed Kerrigan had died by the end of the first chapter and were treated with the twist early in the second chapter). But anyways, since there are more planned games, it would have to leave a plot hole to be filled in by the next game.
Right now the most intriguing plot hole is Samir Duran. I can't wait to find out exactly what it is he's been up to all this time and what he really is.
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On December 10 2010 11:33 Conrose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 11:24 TedJustice wrote:On December 10 2010 09:41 pzea469 wrote:
i think u guys are judging this unfinished video too harshly. Even if this IS the true ending of HOTS, blizzard has the whole game to explain things and for it to be a good story. This. You can't assume there are plotholes when you haven't even seen 99% of the game. There would have to be at least a few plot holes in order to leave room for Legacy of the Void... SCI left plot holes at the end of every campaign to make room for the next campaign (Well, admittedly a lot of us just assumed Kerrigan had died by the end of the first chapter and were treated with the twist early in the second chapter). But anyways, since there are more planned games, it would have to leave a plot hole to be filled in by the next game. Right now the most intriguing plot hole is Samir Duran. I can't wait to find out exactly what it is he's been up to all this time and what he really is.
Right, but that's not the kind of plot hole I meant.
I meant people complaining about retcons and this and that, when they haven't even given the full game a try yet to see if those retcons have reasonable explanations.
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On December 10 2010 11:40 TedJustice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 11:33 Conrose wrote:On December 10 2010 11:24 TedJustice wrote:On December 10 2010 09:41 pzea469 wrote:
i think u guys are judging this unfinished video too harshly. Even if this IS the true ending of HOTS, blizzard has the whole game to explain things and for it to be a good story. This. You can't assume there are plotholes when you haven't even seen 99% of the game. There would have to be at least a few plot holes in order to leave room for Legacy of the Void... SCI left plot holes at the end of every campaign to make room for the next campaign (Well, admittedly a lot of us just assumed Kerrigan had died by the end of the first chapter and were treated with the twist early in the second chapter). But anyways, since there are more planned games, it would have to leave a plot hole to be filled in by the next game. Right now the most intriguing plot hole is Samir Duran. I can't wait to find out exactly what it is he's been up to all this time and what he really is. Right, but that's not the kind of plot hole I meant. I meant people complaining about retcons and this and that, when they haven't even given the full game a try yet to see if those retcons have reasonable explanations.
Personnaly, my problem with this, is NOT the storyline. Of course, we absolutely don't have the full story, secrets blablabla, but my problem is HOW it's delivered. I feel like watching a soap opera with all the guys being blonde tall dudes saying one liners, than look at the camera flexingn...
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On December 10 2010 04:43 .Aar wrote:You were wrong.
oh god this is a gem hahaha
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On December 10 2010 10:40 Conrose wrote:
Freeing the Zerg was the very reason that the overmind created the Queen of Blades in the first place, so that's in line with the established lore. How Zerglings will handle free will, I don't know, they act like feral animals in the absence of hydras and up even with the hivemind available.
This also isn't the true ending considering that it's only the second chapter and still needs to leave things open enough to allow for Legacy of the Void to work... such as how WoL had to end with the so called "Cliff Hanger" to allow for HotS to start the way they wanted it to start and take the story the direction they wanted to take it.
Now, what I would love is a redone cinematic for the Destruction of the Overmind.
that was a retcon brought in by WoL. frankly it all seems stupid. like the dumb xel'naga plot device. Metzen really wants us to believe the Overmind rushed to aiur to find out some of the prophecy? another dumb plot device. what was on aiur. a magical temple? did his tentacle touch the pinnacle and suddenly he knew?
makes me so god damn angry just thinking about it.
previous poster was right. artanis was wrong. it is just warcraft in space and it's actually much less sophisticated
originally the overmind just wanted kerrigan because she was an extremely powerful psionic being that he could utilize to increase his power in the universe. with such a powerful subject nothing would stand in his way. atleast until the horrible retconning that is.
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how do you get this leaked already?? ????
well that was retarded..
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Hope it's fake...
Also, how does Kerrigan become a 'good' character all of a sudden?
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On December 10 2010 13:17 MavercK wrote:
that was a retcon brought in by WoL. frankly it all seems stupid. like the dumb xel'naga plot device. Metzen really wants us to believe the Overmind rushed to aiur to find out some of the prophecy? another dumb plot device. what was on aiur. a magical temple? did his tentacle touch the pinnacle and suddenly he knew?
Huh? The Overmind didn't rush to Auir to find out the prophecy. He all ready knew about it, hence why he created Kerrigan. He went to Auir to kill the protoss because according to WoL the Dark Voice or some rogue Xel'naga tampered with the Zerg to make them aggressively want kill the protoss. That's what they meant when the zerg had no free will. The race on the whole was tampered with long ago. This seems to make people think they would have been a nice/happy race if they weren't tampered with. They are still a vicious animalistic race that infest new species, except because of being tampered with, they now have a hard on for the protoss and can't do anything about it. That's from my understanding what they meant by not having free will.
Oh well, Anyway my thoughts on the leaked video are it's definitely from Blizzard and someone is getting fired. As for the ending I didn't think it was that bad. The dialogue was horrible and seems to be everyone chief complaint and I agree. If the maybe rewrite the script and lose some of the cheese it could come across a lot different.
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On December 10 2010 11:33 Conrose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 11:24 TedJustice wrote:On December 10 2010 09:41 pzea469 wrote:
i think u guys are judging this unfinished video too harshly. Even if this IS the true ending of HOTS, blizzard has the whole game to explain things and for it to be a good story. This. You can't assume there are plotholes when you haven't even seen 99% of the game. There would have to be at least a few plot holes in order to leave room for Legacy of the Void... SCI left plot holes at the end of every campaign to make room for the next campaign (Well, admittedly a lot of us just assumed Kerrigan had died by the end of the first chapter and were treated with the twist early in the second chapter). But anyways, since there are more planned games, it would have to leave a plot hole to be filled in by the next game. Right now the most intriguing plot hole is Samir Duran. I can't wait to find out exactly what it is he's been up to all this time and what he really is.
You're failing to understand what a plot hole really is. There's a difference between leaving a story or a branch of a story open-ended or unsolved and leaving plot holes. Plot holes are inconsistencies that don't make sense within the story, while open-ended parts/unsolved parts of a story are simply unanswered questions.
i think u guys are judging this unfinished video too harshly. Even if this IS the true ending of HOTS, blizzard has the whole game to explain things and for it to be a good story.
Doesn't matter how they explain it - that's an absolutely shitty ending to a horrific story with an atrocious script.
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meh, for everybody saying how horrible this is, what did you expect? It looks like it's just as bad as WoL. I gave up on the story once I finished the campaign. Blizzard have written themselves into a corner and have tried to put twists in the story that completly ruin everything.
+ Show Spoiler +I mean honestly, the overmind is actually good? kerrigan is some chosen one to defeat an ultimate evil? Kerrigan is easy to defeat and is now suddenly good? The three races must team up to defeat a hybrid race or the universe will be destroyed(How predictable and cliche can you get)?
At least the vid fills in the plot hole of why Mengsk didn't have tychus kill jim raynor early on.
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I only just noticed this, but why was she killing blues? Aren't they supposed to be jims marines? And then there was "her end of the bargain". I have reason to think that it may not be a happy ending at all.
At least the vid fills in the plot hole of why Mengsk didn't have tychus kill jim raynor early on.
I'd like an explanation for this.
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Holy crap, everything points to this being real IMO. I can't believe this actually leaked.
And those sketches are 100% Metzen style.
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