EPTKerrigan had a pretty good reason to approach the Protoss, but didn't really do a lot to earn their trust and the protoss didn't really gain much from her tagging along. And later on it's Duran who comes up with a plan to make it much easier to capture Razagal and to defeat Fenix and Duke. Pretty sure that Duran was the brains of the partnership.
What do you think of Sarah Kerrigan?
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Billy_
461 Posts
Kerrigan had a pretty good reason to approach the Protoss, but didn't really do a lot to earn their trust and the protoss didn't really gain much from her tagging along. And later on it's Duran who comes up with a plan to make it much easier to capture Razagal and to defeat Fenix and Duke. Pretty sure that Duran was the brains of the partnership. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
but I thought she was pretty badass in the SC2 campaign | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
Well i didn't see a specific SP forum for BW, and the first few pages of topic titles look as though there is very little care for the campaign. So I figure I'd put it here since this seems to be the place where people talk about the story and characters and stuff. | ||
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Enigma_Nova
Australia21 Posts
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terranmart
United Kingdom2 Posts
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terranmart
United Kingdom2 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:57 terranmart wrote: kerrigan is devious made in china User was warned for this post | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
Edit: dude above me wtf does that even mean? those are your first and second posts... I'm in shock Double Edit: actually OP you've started five threads that I can see | ||
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Metallingus
Philippines468 Posts
Oh, wait... IMO she's been watered down for WoL. Like you said, cunning isn't really her thing (brash overconfidence does that). Her biggest selling point, the "Queen Bitch of the Universe" vibe just isn't there anymore. | ||
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Billy_
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Biff The Understudy
France7850 Posts
On October 13 2010 19:51 Billy_ wrote: I'd say her strongest characteristics while infested were her brash overconfidence and extreme viloence and that she is pretty bad at the whole cunning and scheming thing. Especially when compared to Duran who had proven his worth immediately to the UED, and continued to be useful while at the same time turning the admirals against each other to destroy the psi disruptor. Kerrigan had a pretty good reason to approach the Protoss, but didn't really do a lot to earn their trust and the protoss didn't really gain much from her tagging along. And later on it's Duran who comes up with a plan to make it much easier to capture Razagal and to defeat Fenix and Duke. Pretty sure that Duran was the brains of the partnership. The point of BW campaign is that Raynor / protosses / Mengsk HAD to ally with Kerrigan in order to demolish the UED, as much as she needed them to get control back on the swarms. She couldn't really be Duran like since they already knew her past and that she was infected. | ||
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Enigma_Nova
Australia21 Posts
Kerrigan knows the hybrids are a threat, and the Relics are a weapon she would rather have in her hand than hybrid hands. The Overmind would've told her information like this before it died, and Kerrigan's mind-reading abilities picked up the prophecies from Zeratul when she fought him, meaning Kerrigan KNOWS she's threatened by hybrids, and that she important in making the Zerg resist hybrid control. What does this mean? It means the Terrans from WoL and the Zerg from WoL are on the same side, and that every action you took against them was friendly fire. However, the Terrans and the Zerg aren't going to trust each-other any time in the next century, so even if both groups want to fight the hybrids, the sentiment is "You. Give me all your anti-hybrid stuff right now before you use it wrong and kill us all." "No U." "Waagh!" Edit: I just realised this doesn't explain wtf Kerrigan was doing attacking the New Agria colonists (Dr. Hanson questline). What was Kerrigan doing there? Kerrigan pretty much followed Ariel Hanson across the sector. What Tosh said about Hanson being a zergmagnet is true, but I don't understand why or how that should be. | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
On October 16 2010 17:47 Biff The Understudy wrote: The point of BW campaign is that Raynor / protosses / Mengsk HAD to ally with Kerrigan in order to demolish the UED, as much as she needed them to get control back on the swarms. She couldn't really be Duran like since they already knew her past and that she was infected. Hey, you a fan of the Baldurs Gate series? Or is the name a cooincidence? Anyway, I maintain my opinion that Kerrigan lacks Durans grasp of subtlty and cunning. | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On October 16 2010 16:05 Billy_ wrote: Guessing that she was in contact with Valarian and/or Arcturus at some point and that Valarian didn't keep his word, hence the "You will pay for this treachery" at the end of the game. Whoa. I never noticed her saying that, or I never realized what it meant. I kind of hate the WoL Kerrigan. In BW she was a total punk, full of sarcasm and arrogance. The WoL Kerrigan seemed.. empty. Like nobody gave her much thought when giving her lines. All that hostile personality.. completely gone. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On October 16 2010 05:57 terranmart wrote: kerrigan is devious Super cute too. Totally would be a hot Halloween costume.... or blizcon. But as far as WoL - I wasn't really impressed by her. I hope she gets more personality in the next game. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
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Billy_
461 Posts
lol. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 17 2010 11:26 Billy_ wrote: Because she was so multi-dimension in the Terran part with her one appearance at the final mission, right? "I'm gonna pwn you noobs, and by the way alexi was twice the man you are". lol. You don't support Kerrigan's character in WoL at all. In all of these ridiculous threads you make you just mindlessly bash BW without actually defending the WoL writing. Just in case you didn't know, that doesn't actually work at justifying the atrocious script and just overall writing that WoL had. | ||
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Billy_
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
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cabe
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zbedlam
Australia549 Posts
On October 18 2010 21:21 NIIINO wrote: She was hot in SC2 cinematic, really less hot in SC2 portrait so i dont know what to thing but she seems like bitch, 1st making out with Raynor than with that Mind zerg guy and now again Raynor ? what next Zerathul ? omfg hot | ||
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spkim1
Canada286 Posts
On October 16 2010 10:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Dude you've started four threads in sc2 single player in like a week and they're all speculative story questions... I really don't know what this means I'm just pointing it out. Edit: dude above me wtf does that even mean? those are your first and second posts... I'm in shock Double Edit: actually OP you've started five threads that I can see What's your point ? Honestly, people can post whatever they want; if their post isn't interesting it's the people managing this site e.g. FrozenArbiter who will take the post down. Are you the manager or something ? Lay off him ! | ||
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Dreamscythe
Finland273 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
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DARKHYDRA
United States303 Posts
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KingofHearts
Japan562 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080517080550/starcraft/images/2/2a/InfestedSarahKerrigan_SC2_Cncpt1.jpg) On October 21 2010 18:30 Fckbl wrote: I think she is sexy devil This actually sums it up. | ||
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
What do i think about her? hot | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On October 21 2010 18:48 igotmyown wrote: This StarCraft II femnazi lesbian whore oufit is not even close to how a True Christian™ lady should dress: wait...this thread is about kerrigan and u posted nova? o.o | ||
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Conrose
437 Posts
In Starcraft II, when you pay particular attention to Zeratul/Kerrigan exchange, she seems subdued, even resigned to simply let the prophecy come to pass. You see the first sign of this resignation in Brood Wars at the end of "True Colors" and then again in the credits text after Omega where she reflects upon what is described as a hollow victory. | ||
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Erk
United States52 Posts
On October 18 2010 21:21 NIIINO wrote: She was hot in SC2 cinematic, really less hot in SC2 portrait so i dont know what to thing but she seems like bitch, 1st making out with Raynor than with that Mind zerg guy and now again Raynor ? what next Zerathul ? That would be... interesting. Then in the next game, there would be a half terran - half protoss race. | ||
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Imperfect1987
United States558 Posts
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Billy_
461 Posts
On November 04 2010 15:54 Imperfect1987 wrote: She felt like a dainty little pansy in Starcraft 2. It was very disappointing. I wanted to see a cutscene with her ravaging hundreds. The ending was the final blow though. No way can she ever be a badass with an ending like that. Never. Try it on brutal. Obscure fact - the news blurbs on the bottom of the UNN screen seem to suggest that Kerrigan had spread the Zerg force very thin to search. And most of them were not on Char at the time. Pretty sure that the entire swarm would have killed everyone in a matter of seconds. | ||
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cbrsmurf
United States40 Posts
On October 28 2010 04:27 Jibba wrote: At first glance, the direction this thread has taken is pretty obnoxious, but like igotmyown so adequately pointed out, it's really the direction Blizzard has taken with her. She's not just an evil villain or a love interest, she was supposed to be some strangely erotic creature. I mean, why on earth is an infested terran wearing stilletos? This actually sums it up. Hah, I thought I was the only who noticed the stilettos. I was thinking during the cutscene, "Man, if he just cut through her stiletto instead of her wing thingy, he could've totally incapacitated her." Most of the characters in WoL have become simplified. Also, it's pretty obvious to me that the 3 races will have to join together to defeat the hybrids. The next couple of campaigns will be about the 3 races trying to trust each other. It's just going to be another hashed, typical sci-fi plot, I'm afraid. | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
Just a guess, but I believe that the main reason why Blizzard keep on returning to this same plot is because it's a really good basis for designing interesting and diverse missions. They certainly made great use of the alliances in the WCIII games, and if the design is as good in SCII then I'd consider a rehash as a good thing. I wonder how long it takes her to go from heels to something more practical? Didn't take a long time to regrow the bone wing, and she managed to hold her ground pretty well when Zeratul sliced the wing off and kicked himself into a somersault off of her shoulders. | ||
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thehitman
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BTW: she is pretty sexy in SC2, infested or not. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On October 13 2010 19:51 Billy_ wrote: Kerrigan had a pretty good reason to approach the Protoss, but didn't really do a lot to earn their trust Actually she really did everything to earn their trust -- she mind controlled Raszagal before even trying to side with the Protoss. Raszagal being the leader of the Protoss at the time was calling the shots for Zeratul, Artanis and the rest. Aldaris caught wind of it too. That's why he was really killed. | ||
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Mintastic
United States166 Posts
On November 04 2010 16:52 Billy_ wrote: Hasn't Broodwars UED invasion proven that it can be a good rehash with the proper execution? Just a guess, but I believe that the main reason why Blizzard keep on returning to this same plot is because it's a really good basis for designing interesting and diverse missions. They certainly made great use of the alliances in the WCIII games, and if the design is as good in SCII then I'd consider a rehash as a good thing. I wonder how long it takes her to go from heels to something more practical? Didn't take a long time to regrow the bone wing, and she managed to hold her ground pretty well when Zeratul sliced the wing off and kicked himself into a somersault off of her shoulders. The somersault recovery was even more impressive considering that when Zeratul landed he created a huge concave in the ground (suggesting he is extremely heavy). Apparently those stilettos are quite tough. | ||
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On November 05 2010 07:31 Mintastic wrote: Oh hush, this is film physics, the place where people don't seem to realize that the same kinetic energy a bullet inflicts upon a target is also inflicted upon the one who shoots it in oposite direction.The somersault recovery was even more impressive considering that when Zeratul landed he created a huge concave in the ground (suggesting he is extremely heavy). Apparently those stilettos are quite tough. I mean, at the very least the same concave should appear under Kerrigan when zeratul used her to propell herself, if she supposedly was so tough she could hold that force, it would just be directed to the ground. ![[image loading]](http://ircamera.as.arizona.edu/NatSci102/NatSci102/images/newton.jpg) Isaac does not approve. And I like the SC2 and post-true colours version better actually. The subtle hints that in the end she's hardly happy with it all and wants to die to some extend. She also doesn't seem to hate Zeratul as much as he dislikes her. | ||
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Billy_
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On November 05 2010 02:27 Tump wrote: Actually she really did everything to earn their trust -- she mind controlled Raszagal before even trying to side with the Protoss. Raszagal being the leader of the Protoss at the time was calling the shots for Zeratul, Artanis and the rest. Aldaris caught wind of it too. That's why he was really killed. The execution of the whole thing was problematic. It's made clear that Kerrigan has along leash on Razagal and that she could have avoided alerting Aldaris by simply leaving Shakuras. You could speculate that Aldaris might have found out even if Kerrigan hadn't shown up, but the whole protoss campaign progression just wasn't convincing enough for me to be satisifed. And then kerrigans taunts after Aldaris' attempted warning is punctuated by what is arguably the worst dialogue in the series "Begone from this place vile creature, you are no longer welcome here!". I figured Zeratul would want her dead or something. | ||
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Mintastic
United States166 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:16 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: Oh hush, this is film physics, the place where people don't seem to realize that the same kinetic energy a bullet inflicts upon a target is also inflicted upon the one who shoots it in oposite direction. I mean, at the very least the same concave should appear under Kerrigan when zeratul used her to propell herself, if she supposedly was so tough she could hold that force, it would just be directed to the ground. Isaac does not approve. And I like the SC2 and post-true colours version better actually. The subtle hints that in the end she's hardly happy with it all and wants to die to some extend. She also doesn't seem to hate Zeratul as much as he dislikes her. Isaac has nothing on those stilettos. | ||
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IamTheWhiteGuy
United States93 Posts
I have one quick little example that is emblematic of the problem with the whole direction the SC2 story is headed. When you kill Kerrigan in all-in she says "You will pay for this treachery!" That all sounds very good. Ooh, treachery, don't like the sound of that. Nope. And she'll make us pay for it. Yep. That all sounds very villanous and such. But wait! Treachery - ˈtreCHərē - Noun 1. Betrayal of trust; deceptive action or nature His resignation was perceived as an act of treachery. The treachery of language. Killing an alien monstrosity hell bent on the murder of you and every other human being on Char? Not treachery. | ||
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DaRkFrosT
United States407 Posts
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Billy_
461 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:43 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote: The story showed signs of weakness in BW that have become catastrophic in SC2. I have one quick little example that is emblematic of the problem with the whole direction the SC2 story is headed. When you kill Kerrigan in all-in she says "You will pay for this treachery!" That all sounds very good. Ooh, treachery, don't like the sound of that. Nope. And she'll make us pay for it. Yep. That all sounds very villanous and such. But wait! Killing an alien monstrosity hell bent on the murder of you and every other human being on Char? Not treachery. Consider this. She is a powerful psionic who is probably able to bellow loudly enough to be heard from the other side of the planet. Venturing a guess here, but if it turns out that she wasn't talking to Jim and that Valarian decided to change a plan which the two of them had concocted I would consider it to be believable foreshadowing. Awkwardly delivered foreshadowing, but acceptable if you aren't highly sensitive to bits of bad story. But if it doesn't pan out like that, well I don't know what to say. It's not going to ruin the series for me. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On November 05 2010 17:22 Billy_ wrote: Consider this. She is a powerful psionic who is probably able to bellow loudly enough to be heard from the other side of the planet. Venturing a guess here, but if it turns out that she wasn't talking to Jim and that Valarian decided to change a plan which the two of them had concocted I would consider it to be believable foreshadowing. Awkwardly delivered foreshadowing, but acceptable if you aren't highly sensitive to bits of bad story. But if it doesn't pan out like that, well I don't know what to say. It's not going to ruin the series for me. Consider this: kerrigan is an idiot because the people who wrote her are hacks. I hate to be so blunt about it, but kerrigan and many other characters in the series are too dumb to believe. | ||
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ZergOwaR
Norway280 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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Toxigen
United States390 Posts
She also doesn't seem to hate Zeratul as much as he dislikes her. This is probably the best part of it. Zeratul is inconsequential to her. At best, he's a minor nuisance; at worst, he's a joke. I'm wondering if it's just that the Queen of Blades is supremely overconfident or whether she was being manipulating by the Dark Voice. I still think Raynor is going to be the one to kill her in the end, even if it's something as melodramatic as sacrificing her (letting her die) to defeat the Dark Voice. Then again, I'm not so sure Raynor's going to make it, either. | ||
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Birthday
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
Kerrigan in SC2: I'm sorry Raynor, but your princess is in another hatchery. | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
On November 07 2010 19:12 Chiponyasu wrote: one of the greatest villains in a video game. Never was, never will be. But I'm sure she'll be back to her former glory in HotS, but WoL wasn't about Kerrigan been awesome by making her enemies into unbelievable dumb, it was about making Jim look awesome by making his enemies unbelievably dumb. When we get back into HotS she will be the protagonist again where it will be her turn to win the SC special olympics. | ||
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BasilPesto
Australia624 Posts
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Raikynn
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Nixda
119 Posts
To be honest, I always disliked the Queen of Blades as decidedly un-zergy and felt she was only implemented as a marketing ploy to provide the inhuman zerg with a nice face and some boobs. | ||
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SubPointOA
United States183 Posts
On October 17 2010 13:30 Billy_ wrote: Okay. >.> nice contributing comment. Anyways, I found the campaign to be decent, I wasn't like nerd raging that it was a horrible product, but I guess it could be longer. Probably 7 more missions would have been nice. I want more single player stuff, 9 challenges is kind of too little. I hope blizzard inputs more challenges as patches go on | ||
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Venedar
United Kingdom24 Posts
On November 08 2010 09:36 SubPointOA wrote: >.> nice contributing comment. Anyways, I found the campaign to be decent, I wasn't like nerd raging that it was a horrible product, but I guess it could be longer. Probably 7 more missions would have been nice. I want more single player stuff, 9 challenges is kind of too little. I hope blizzard inputs more challenges as patches go on Have to agree, some of the missions lacked a bit of depth or we're just steamrolled through even on brutal (smash and grab for instant). The challenges I didn't really have a problem with par the ghost one for a little bit, but would love to see some more challenges in the patches/expansions, sometimes there just isn't anyone around you want to play with and laddering can get timersum every now and then. | ||
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