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Beyond brutal . a harder than brutal difficulty ?

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Tonyoh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France218 Posts
September 20 2010 23:18 GMT
#1
Would you enjoy a mode harder than brutal ? I do because even in brutal I feel that mmm bioball along with some upgraded goliath is too strong, so it would be nice to have a mode harder than brutal, which is pretty easy except all in and supernova.

What are your thoughts about it ?

Poll: Beyond Brutal mode ?

It's fine as it is (174)
 
54%

Brutal is too easy, we need that ! (82)
 
26%

I don't care (64)
 
20%

320 total votes

Your vote: Beyond Brutal mode ?

(Vote): Brutal is too easy, we need that !
(Vote): It's fine as it is
(Vote): I don't care



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Deleted User 62283
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
385 Posts
September 20 2010 23:39 GMT
#2
Lol 19 votes and no replies. I think it's fine as is - you don't want it to be impossible - and the real challenge is in multi player anyways.
Kin~Slayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada56 Posts
September 20 2010 23:47 GMT
#3
IMO making the AI more powerful wouldn't make the campaign more challenging/more fun. It would just make it more frustrating.

^^ what he said. The real challenge is the multiplayer
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 20 2010 23:47 GMT
#4
The ability to make the game more difficult is there: doing the achievements on brutal, and if that's not difficult enough, you can always try a No-Upgrade-Run
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
September 20 2010 23:50 GMT
#5
Yeah I spent the entire campaign thinking "Upgraded Goliath trivializes all of this". Wait no I didn't because everyone did it differently. I didn't use M&M past the first 5 or so missions, and I sure as hell didn't use goliaths.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 20 2010 23:56 GMT
#6
If you find it too easy do a challenge mode:

No upgrades/techs is the basic one
only building mercs and marines is a tough one.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 21 2010 00:04 GMT
#7
So try Brutal NUR. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146562

If you can beat All-In, you're pretty ok.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Drunken.Jedi
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany446 Posts
September 21 2010 00:12 GMT
#8
I'd love to play the campaign on a higher difficulty. Most missions are pretty easy even on brutal once you figure out how the mission should be played. Hopefully the HotS and LotV campaigns will be harder on the highest difficulty.
GSang
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States51 Posts
September 21 2010 00:22 GMT
#9
i'm just playing it to get the story, not to be super frustrated so i voted it's fine as it is
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
September 21 2010 00:35 GMT
#10
Try to beat missions using only the robot cat, missile turrets, scvs and medivacs.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 01:58:18
September 21 2010 01:58 GMT
#11
On September 21 2010 09:12 Drunken.Jedi wrote:
I'd love to play the campaign on a higher difficulty. Most missions are pretty easy even on brutal once you figure out how the mission should be played. Hopefully the HotS and LotV campaigns will be harder on the highest difficulty.


very unlikely.
there isnt alot they can do to make them harder. i wuldnt expect more difficulty at all
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
September 21 2010 04:33 GMT
#12
Just give yourself more restrictions. You think marine/medic ball is too strong? then don't make either of those units. Problem solved.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 21 2010 05:47 GMT
#13
Your implication that supernova was a hard mission to complete on brutal is a surprising one. Despite the Brutal setting being quite manageable I don't imagine a, "harder" difficultly to constitute any exciting challenge so much as boring repetition, and frustrating mechanics. Dealing with things like Tychus being a suicidal piece of shit on Engine of Destruction for example, on a difficulty "harder" than brutal would just be annoying rather than an actual test of tactical acumen.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 21 2010 07:38 GMT
#14
You should just handicap yourself, no upgrades, for example, no research, these kind of stuff
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
September 21 2010 07:48 GMT
#15
On September 21 2010 16:38 Mortician wrote:
You should just handicap yourself, no upgrades, for example, no research, these kind of stuff


this is the xbox generation! we can't be bothered to do that without being able to brag and show off an achievement for it.
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kudlaty_true
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland158 Posts
September 21 2010 09:50 GMT
#16
Hm. I'll tell you this:
This is exactly like the diablo with the special events. Everyobdy thinks that it was so easy, but for a casual gamer it was an impossible task.
From my perspective, the Brutal is brutal enough, But I'm only a silver/gold player, so a little above casual gamer and for me, more brutal than brutal is not necessary.
However, looking from platinum/diamond point of view, people probably fight to get every achievement there is, so for them, the more achievements there is, and the harder they are to get, the merrier it will be to get them. And longer, and more mileage from a game to get anyway, so... why not?

It's all about achievements, anyway, or is it not? This topic I mean. Otherwise, what would be the point? Self-improvement? What good that would do if you can't brag about it?
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 21 2010 11:00 GMT
#17
I'd like an 'impossible' difficulty as kind of an ultimate challenge. Missions like Engine of Destruction would be ridiculously annoying, but I'd probably enjoy trying to find the perfect strategy for each mission.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Let_Me_Be
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic7 Posts
September 27 2010 02:38 GMT
#18
I would say that brutal is easy once you find the optimal path. You can't go against the flow on brutal difficulty (like kill all enemy bases).

On the other hand, what would require a higher difficulty? More precision while following the optimal path? That's not much fun.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 27 2010 06:05 GMT
#19
I Think if they removed every unit, except Medic, Marine and allow you to use the other units only on specific missions, it will be harder! Oh...wait...
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
September 27 2010 10:28 GMT
#20
I think brutal is just fine. Its going to be alot easier for terrans on brutal because they are such a defensive race (tanks, bunkers, PF). I think it will be more difficult for zerg and protoss because of the nature of the races.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
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