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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 07:59 GMT
#1
So I was trying to research every thing in the armory/mercenaries, I keep playing "in the utter darkness" Casual mode and get free $$ by completing it

is there anyway to get $$ quickly??
Silu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
August 02 2010 08:26 GMT
#2
1. Gather up ~1M$ without buying any upgrades on some easy difficulty
2. Save the game
3. Buy yourself an achievement
4. Reload the game
5. Goto step 3

I assume the achievements were what you were trying to get :p
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 02 2010 08:34 GMT
#3
On August 02 2010 17:26 Silu wrote:
1. Gather up ~1M$ without buying any upgrades on some easy difficulty
2. Save the game
3. Buy yourself an achievement
4. Reload the game
5. Goto step 3

I assume the achievements were what you were trying to get :p
Exactly what i Did. So easy.
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AlecPyron
Profile Joined May 2010
United States131 Posts
August 02 2010 08:37 GMT
#4
How long it takes to finish "In the Utter Darkness" in casual mode and how much you get from it?

You can accumulate cash by getting every Protoss and Zerg research in the lab and after that repeatedly gather all those protoss relics and zerg stuff again in any casual mode mission and going back to the lab console.

A little spoiler:

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The fastest mission you can do that is the secret mission one. you can get 120K for every 10 ~ 12 minutes by gathering all 4 Protoss relics and killing the Brutalisk.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 08:39 GMT
#5
On August 02 2010 17:26 Silu wrote:
1. Gather up ~1M$ without buying any upgrades on some easy difficulty
2. Save the game
3. Buy yourself an achievement
4. Reload the game
5. Goto step 3

I assume the achievements were what you were trying to get :p


must it be 1M?? what u mean buy myself an achivement??
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 02 2010 08:48 GMT
#6
Or just do all missions on normal difficulty and get the normal achievements before going to Char (including secret mission/the choice missions).
If you got the P/Z research done then doing some extra missions to complete the normal achievements will give you the achievements + credits for your armory upgrades also for achievement so it's double advantage :p
I got all upgraded and did all missions before going to Char :p
Now I just need to do the final missions and I'll have all normal mode achievements. Then I can finally go mass ladder :p
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 08:51 GMT
#7
I am not sure whether I can get the secret mission cos i enter char and got out cos my upgrades are all suck.

How long it takes to finish "In the Utter Darkness" in casual mode and how much you get from it?


it only needs 1500 kills but the 25 min archive wait is killing me.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 09:39:03
August 02 2010 09:38 GMT
#8
I just do casual liberation day takes me 2 mins and i still get the credits i dont need to gather crap just complete a mission and touch the console.
Nihility
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada72 Posts
August 02 2010 10:20 GMT
#9
On August 02 2010 17:39 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 17:26 Silu wrote:
1. Gather up ~1M$ without buying any upgrades on some easy difficulty
2. Save the game
3. Buy yourself an achievement
4. Reload the game
5. Goto step 3

I assume the achievements were what you were trying to get :p


must it be 1M?? what u mean buy myself an achivement??


There are achievements for getting all the upgrades in one section, so first time you reload your game you buy all the upgrades in let's say, vehicles. You get the achievement for that and then you just reload your save again for another achievement.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#10
On August 02 2010 19:20 Nihility wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 17:39 justiceknight wrote:
On August 02 2010 17:26 Silu wrote:
1. Gather up ~1M$ without buying any upgrades on some easy difficulty
2. Save the game
3. Buy yourself an achievement
4. Reload the game
5. Goto step 3

I assume the achievements were what you were trying to get :p


must it be 1M?? what u mean buy myself an achivement??


There are achievements for getting all the upgrades in one section, so first time you reload your game you buy all the upgrades in let's say, vehicles. You get the achievement for that and then you just reload your save again for another achievement.



oh ok i see what u meant,ok so now i need to get as many upgrades so i can play Char easily,need $$ though.I just played the "ghost in the chance" ,is it a secret mission because I chose to help Tosh earlier.I complete that nova mission and suppose to get $125000,and when i am on the bridge the $$ didnt credit to me,is it a bug now??
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 02 2010 10:37 GMT
#11
On August 02 2010 18:38 semantics wrote:
I just do casual liberation day takes me 2 mins and i still get the credits i dont need to gather crap just complete a mission and touch the console.


That is correct. When you have gotten 25 research points in something and you get credits from Moebius, that cash will repeat every single time you complete any mission and go back to the research console. The highest you can get is 250k credits every time just before you go to Char.
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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 02 2010 10:46 GMT
#12
On August 02 2010 19:33 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 19:20 Nihility wrote:
On August 02 2010 17:39 justiceknight wrote:
On August 02 2010 17:26 Silu wrote:
1. Gather up ~1M$ without buying any upgrades on some easy difficulty
2. Save the game
3. Buy yourself an achievement
4. Reload the game
5. Goto step 3

I assume the achievements were what you were trying to get :p


must it be 1M?? what u mean buy myself an achivement??


There are achievements for getting all the upgrades in one section, so first time you reload your game you buy all the upgrades in let's say, vehicles. You get the achievement for that and then you just reload your save again for another achievement.



oh ok i see what u meant,ok so now i need to get as many upgrades so i can play Char easily,need $$ though.I just played the "ghost in the chance" ,is it a secret mission because I chose to help Tosh earlier.I complete that nova mission and suppose to get $125000,and when i am on the bridge the $$ didnt credit to me,is it a bug now??


I think when you choose between two missions, you only get the rewards from the one you chose. You can go back and replay the other choice if you want the achievements, but you won't be able to get the research and credits on that campaign.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
th3b3t0
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico29 Posts
August 02 2010 11:35 GMT
#13
so, can i play missions again and again and still i got credits?
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 11:38 GMT
#14
On August 02 2010 20:35 th3b3t0 wrote:
so, can i play missions again and again and still i got credits?


I only know "in the utter darkness" allows u to get 6 relics and sell them to the lab,even if u are playing Casual mode in that mission,it wastes ur 25 mins every time.I always just mass units and alt tab and do something else.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 02 2010 11:42 GMT
#15
On August 02 2010 20:38 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 20:35 th3b3t0 wrote:
so, can i play missions again and again and still i got credits?


I only know "in the utter darkness" allows u to get 6 relics and sell them to the lab,even if u are playing Casual mode in that mission,it wastes ur 25 mins every time.I always just mass units and alt tab and do something else.

It doesn't matter what mission you do. I had 2 extra zerg relics on the mission before utter darkness and got 20k credits, then I got 3 more from utter darkness and 30k more credits. Now when I do liberation day casual (attackmove from start to end, done in 2:20) I get 50k credit every time.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2010 11:49 GMT
#16
Worth noting: if you replay missions on casual, don't forget to up the game speed to faster. Takes 5 seconds, and makes the whole thing faster by a good deal.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 11:50 GMT
#17
On August 02 2010 20:42 Lobo2me wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 20:38 justiceknight wrote:
On August 02 2010 20:35 th3b3t0 wrote:
so, can i play missions again and again and still i got credits?


I only know "in the utter darkness" allows u to get 6 relics and sell them to the lab,even if u are playing Casual mode in that mission,it wastes ur 25 mins every time.I always just mass units and alt tab and do something else.

It doesn't matter what mission you do. I had 2 extra zerg relics on the mission before utter darkness and got 20k credits, then I got 3 more from utter darkness and 30k more credits. Now when I do liberation day casual (attackmove from start to end, done in 2:20) I get 50k credit every time.


i did the liberation casual and didnt get additional $$ =/
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 02 2010 12:01 GMT
#18
On August 02 2010 20:50 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 20:42 Lobo2me wrote:
On August 02 2010 20:38 justiceknight wrote:
On August 02 2010 20:35 th3b3t0 wrote:
so, can i play missions again and again and still i got credits?


I only know "in the utter darkness" allows u to get 6 relics and sell them to the lab,even if u are playing Casual mode in that mission,it wastes ur 25 mins every time.I always just mass units and alt tab and do something else.

It doesn't matter what mission you do. I had 2 extra zerg relics on the mission before utter darkness and got 20k credits, then I got 3 more from utter darkness and 30k more credits. Now when I do liberation day casual (attackmove from start to end, done in 2:20) I get 50k credit every time.


i did the liberation casual and didnt get additional $$ =/

Weird, are you 25 in a research with extras?
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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
August 02 2010 12:10 GMT
#19
I believe you don't get the credit award for a mission when you repeat it, but you will be given any of the Protoss/Zerg research you did. So if you have maxed on those, you can continue to bank on the relics as your source of money. I did the same thing Silu recommended to get all the achievements, and then buy the upgrades I wanted to finish the game.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 12:21 GMT
#20
Weird, are you 25 in a research with extras?


yes T_T

the credits are torturing me now lol
Occam
Profile Joined July 2010
8 Posts
August 02 2010 12:35 GMT
#21
What are the best missions to get research items? Do you need to finish the mission or can you grab the items and exit?
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
August 02 2010 12:39 GMT
#22
Can you replay Liberation on Casual over and over again while still getting the Mobieus Money?? Thought it was a one time deal per difficulty you've played the map on

After realising I've got 120.000 + 50.000 credits from Mobieus I just played the missions I've remembered to be the easiest and fastest on Casual. It's a bit of a grind but eventually I've got enough money.

I've just completed all my upgrades as I'm writing this while netting a bunch of Tech Mastery Achievements in the process
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Aoratha
Profile Joined July 2010
United States18 Posts
August 02 2010 12:41 GMT
#23
Smash and grab mission nets like 230,000 credits... and I can complete it on casual in 4 minutes.
Zulit
Profile Joined August 2004
Czech Republic16 Posts
August 02 2010 13:27 GMT
#24
If you finished the map on Brutal and replayed it on casual, does it give you money from that mission? Or at what point in the game can you replay the missions to get credits for finishing it? I only need credits to get all my achievements in Single player, started new campaign because of it, but whenever I try to replay the mission, I never receive credits again. Nor do I receive extra research. Does it have to do something with "Brutal" difficulty I chose at the beginning, even before first mission? I cant figure it out.
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
August 02 2010 13:46 GMT
#25
Use the credit bug. For some reason they repeatedly pay you for your protoss/zerg researches over 25. So just play the game and amass a good deal of the researches over 25 (I went for 20 for 200k credits) and just replay short missions on casual. I'm able to do liberation day in like 2 minutes and go to the lab and get 200k out of it. Of course you could always hold out for even more researches later in the game to make it even more profitable.

Just something I've noticed - this bug only seems to work when you're replaying a mission you've already beaten. After I noticed this bug I also noticed that it doesn't seem to work when you complete a new mission.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2010 13:49 GMT
#26
On August 02 2010 22:46 789 wrote:
Use the credit bug. For some reason they repeatedly pay you for your protoss/zerg researches over 25. So just play the game and amass a good deal of the researches over 25 (I went for 20 for 200k credits) and just replay short missions on casual. I'm able to do liberation day in like 2 minutes and go to the lab and get 200k out of it. Of course you could always hold out for even more researches later in the game to make it even more profitable.

Just something I've noticed - this bug only seems to work when you're replaying a mission you've already beaten. After I noticed this bug I also noticed that it doesn't seem to work when you complete a new mission.



thats what i am confused about cos i dont know how u get so much $$ and i get 0$.Currently i am switching to Smash and Grab casual and get 4 toss relic for 40k,only used like 8 mins.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 02 2010 16:32 GMT
#27
So I played Liberation again on Casual, did not get additional money. The extra research items do appear to work, so I'm going to spam that to get extra credits. Which level is best for more of those?
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
August 02 2010 16:49 GMT
#28
Odd, so the credit bug seems to work for some, but not others? It was definitely working for me. Like I said, when I was using it to buy upgrades I was getting about 200k (was actually 210K) credits after everytime I redid a mission and went back to the lab.

On August 03 2010 01:32 MangoTango wrote:
So I played Liberation again on Casual, did not get additional money. The extra research items do appear to work, so I'm going to spam that to get extra credits. Which level is best for more of those?


People seem to be doing well with smash and grab. I'd also suggest doing the save/load trick after you build up a substantial sum. If there are upgrades you don't care about you can buy them and get the achievements and then load and pick the ones you reall want.
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TheDaemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 16:56:23
August 02 2010 16:51 GMT
#29
So when can you get extra credits? I'm on Char redoing missions for achievements and don't seem to be getting credits from the missions redone.
And reloading a save where I'm still on the Hyperion doesn't work either...
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 02 2010 16:52 GMT
#30
On August 03 2010 01:49 789 wrote:
Odd, so the credit bug seems to work for some, but not others? It was definitely working for me. Like I said, when I was using it to buy upgrades I was getting about 200k (was actually 210K) credits after everytime I redid a mission and went back to the lab.

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 01:32 MangoTango wrote:
So I played Liberation again on Casual, did not get additional money. The extra research items do appear to work, so I'm going to spam that to get extra credits. Which level is best for more of those?


People seem to be doing well with smash and grab. I'd also suggest doing the save/load trick after you build up a substantial sum. If there are upgrades you don't care about you can buy them and get the achievements and then load and pick the ones you reall want.


Thanks, I was thinking about doing the first Zeratul mission for 60k at a time, but it's like 20-30 minutes per run. Hooray, Blizzard, you managed to put farming into a RTS!
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
August 02 2010 16:59 GMT
#31
On August 03 2010 01:51 TheDaemon wrote:
So when can you get extra credits? I'm on Char redoing missions for achievements and don't seem to be getting credits from the missions redone.
And reloading a save where I'm still on the Hyperion doesn't work either...


If the bug is working for you, go back to the lab after every mission you redo and go to the research console. If the bug is working for you you get 10,000 credits paid for every research items you've gained over 25 (ie when I did it I had 21 between protoss and zerg over their 25 limits and got 210,000 credits every time). If its not working you just get paid the standard 10,000 for the items you gained during that mission.
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TheDaemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
August 02 2010 17:11 GMT
#32
I just can't seem to get extra credits any way I try...
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 02 2010 17:22 GMT
#33
Do you get the relics if you haven't gotten to 25 yet? Cause I'm still way short.
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TheDaemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
August 02 2010 17:52 GMT
#34
I did just get the glitch to work. After replaying a mission, I get 240k credits. NICE.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 02 2010 17:53 GMT
#35
So you have to load a campaign save from where you're still on the ship, then just redo a mission with relics? Or any mission you want, aka Liberation Day on casual?
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
August 02 2010 18:09 GMT
#36
On August 03 2010 02:53 Superiorwolf wrote:
So you have to load a campaign save from where you're still on the ship, then just redo a mission with relics? Or any mission you want, aka Liberation Day on casual?


Well I did it before I finished the campaign - so I was still on the ship. Pretty sure you would have to load though. If the glitch is working for you - any mission will do. I was doing liberation day on casual myself (only takes like 2 minutes to do if you just run straight through it ignoring the holo things).
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Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
August 02 2010 20:50 GMT
#37
Thanks for the tips, guys.

I just played liberation day or whatever it's called and it seems to work getting some research from it on casual.
It takes about 2 minutes and It'll give me 3 points resulting in 30k.

This is neat, but is there any way to do this faster? And what's with some of you saying you get 200k credits after replaying a mission?
socal50
Profile Joined July 2010
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 21:27:17
August 02 2010 21:05 GMT
#38
heres what my attempt yielded:

i play a new mission, where i got my 25 and got 2 left over. after the mission, i got 20k credits.
i replay the same mission and an older mission (which had 3 and 4 research respectively). after the missions, i got 20k both times

so if that trend continues, then it would be advantageous to avoid the lab if youre near 25 until youve gathered a decent amount of research over the limit. ex: youre at 24, you have 34. you get 100k extra on replays.

or at least thats my current hypothesis from these two plays.

edit: did a couple more on casual, still 20k. so it seems what this does is just gives you the same amount for whatever your latest mission gave you (in research credits)
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
August 02 2010 21:53 GMT
#39
Today I was about to enter Char as the last mission but wanted all of my remaining upgrades.

Selected Liberation Day on Casual from the Archives. Hit Escape to quickly cut the cutscenes (fun pun ) and then just A-moved Raynor's squad to the top. Midway you get a little assistance and just A-move them to the top as well.

Took about 2 minutes and 30 seconds per try.

Went into the Laboratory, checked my Research Console and got paid 120.000 for the Zerg and 50.000 for the Protoss.

A grand total of 170.000 credits for just over 3 minutes of grinding. Rinse and repeat untill I had all of the Armory Upgrades as well as all of the Mercenaries.
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3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
August 02 2010 21:56 GMT
#40
On August 03 2010 06:05 socal50 wrote:
heres what my attempt yielded:

i play a new mission, where i got my 25 and got 2 left over. after the mission, i got 20k credits.
i replay the same mission and an older mission (which had 3 and 4 research respectively). after the missions, i got 20k both times

so if that trend continues, then it would be advantageous to avoid the lab if youre near 25 until youve gathered a decent amount of research over the limit. ex: youre at 24, you have 34. you get 100k extra on replays.

or at least thats my current hypothesis from these two plays.

edit: did a couple more on casual, still 20k. so it seems what this does is just gives you the same amount for whatever your latest mission gave you (in research credits)


Don't know for sure but I think you're spot on in your hypothesis.

Apparently I've must have been 17 research points over the limit as I'm getting paid 170.000 credits per Liberation Day on Casual attempt.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 02 2010 22:00 GMT
#41
Ah, so we've figured out how the bug works. I guess I'll just stock up some research points and start spamming credits. Sweet, thanks for the help.
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3978 Posts
August 02 2010 22:02 GMT
#42
The whole campaign/achievement/credit system is a mess, Blizzard.

Everything is unclear, people are getting bugs left and right, some people are getting mass credits. Plz fix plz!
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 02 2010 22:02 GMT
#43
Max your research points to 25. The Games the number of research credits you have after 25. Replay Mission1 and beat it in 2:15. Replay and enjoy more moneys.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 02 2010 22:24 GMT
#44
So do you not get extra stuff when you're at Char? Because I replayed a couple missions and haven't gotten squat.
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SincerelySaint
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
August 02 2010 22:56 GMT
#45
Would someone explain exactly how this works I don't get it and what you're saying doesn't make much sense. So you got through the game and max your protoss and zerg tech then replay missions collect relics and resell them after you've maxed your tech? I didn't think you could regain relics. Explaaaiiinn
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 02 2010 23:03 GMT
#46
On August 03 2010 07:24 Chuiu wrote:
So do you not get extra stuff when you're at Char? Because I replayed a couple missions and haven't gotten squat.

I think the bug only works after you've done a mission with research points then before you start another campaign mission just replay liberation day to get more credits.

So like if you just beat char you got research points to redeem i'm just guessing the check for it is triggered after you start another story mission.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 02 2010 23:08 GMT
#47
Are we sure it is a bug for getting cash though? Why would blizzard have an achievement thats otherwise impossible to get.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 23:26:45
August 02 2010 23:25 GMT
#48
Basically what happens is that each time you play a mission, the amount of relics you collected earlier over 25 Protoss and 25 Zerg continue giving you money when you go back to the laboratory. So I was playing Smash and Grab on casual getting 3:45 minutes or so and all 4 relics and then going back and getting 80,000 each time. People who had more relics than I did were getting like 250,000 for each mission. I think liberation day might have worked too, but I was thinking getting more relics on Smash n' Grab would give more money, but actually I don't know if that's actually the case.

So what you do is load your game, go to the bridge and hit the mission archives console. Choose the mission you want and beat it quickly on casual and you'll get your money when you go back to the ship and go to the laboratory research console. Then when you are buying your upgrades, save the game before you buy the upgrades so that after you buy the upgrades and get an achievement, you can reload the game and buy the other set of upgrades, etc.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 02 2010 23:37 GMT
#49
On August 03 2010 08:08 Chuiu wrote:
Are we sure it is a bug for getting cash though? Why would blizzard have an achievement thats otherwise impossible to get.

Not impossible the credit ones just would have required more then 1 play though.
socal50
Profile Joined July 2010
United States93 Posts
August 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#50
On August 03 2010 07:56 SincerelySaint wrote:
Would someone explain exactly how this works I don't get it and what you're saying doesn't make much sense. So you got through the game and max your protoss and zerg tech then replay missions collect relics and resell them after you've maxed your tech? I didn't think you could regain relics. Explaaaiiinn

you need to have one of your research strains (zerg or protoss) maxed out.
you gather extra research points for that maxed out strain. the more you gather, less grinding/missions you have to replay.

you get 10k for each extra research point. so say you have an extra 5 zerg points. you go ahead and get that 50k.
you replay any mission (liberation day is quickest and easiest) and go the the lab again. using the console will give you that 50k again (or whatever amount you received last time, depending on how many extra you got).
rinse and repeat
Morayfire73
Profile Joined April 2010
United States298 Posts
August 03 2010 01:51 GMT
#51
Can this bug be used to gain research points if you are in a middle of a play through, or do you need to have one strain maxed?
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:59:20
August 03 2010 01:59 GMT
#52
On August 03 2010 10:51 Morayfire73 wrote:
Can this bug be used to gain research points if you are in a middle of a play through, or do you need to have one strain maxed?

Well it only works once you have a strain maxed because then you sell extra research you found.
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 03 2010 02:21 GMT
#53
On August 03 2010 08:25 Superiorwolf wrote:
Basically what happens is that each time you play a mission, the amount of relics you collected earlier over 25 Protoss and 25 Zerg continue giving you money when you go back to the laboratory. So I was playing Smash and Grab on casual getting 3:45 minutes or so and all 4 relics and then going back and getting 80,000 each time. People who had more relics than I did were getting like 250,000 for each mission. I think liberation day might have worked too, but I was thinking getting more relics on Smash n' Grab would give more money, but actually I don't know if that's actually the case.

So what you do is load your game, go to the bridge and hit the mission archives console. Choose the mission you want and beat it quickly on casual and you'll get your money when you go back to the ship and go to the laboratory research console. Then when you are buying your upgrades, save the game before you buy the upgrades so that after you buy the upgrades and get an achievement, you can reload the game and buy the other set of upgrades, etc.


I'm confused about the "loading/saving." You save your campaign while on the ship (I've only ever saved during a mission)? Does that mean you can have multiple campaigns going at once? I've always just done "continue campaign" and assumed "new campaign" cleared everything.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 03 2010 03:10 GMT
#54
ok guys let me clear all the Q&A stuff

1) "loading and saving" for achievement purposes
lets say u wanna unlock all the stuff in armory,all u need to do is to save up lots of $$ then unlock each section of the armory and get the achievement.Then Load the saved file and repeat.Your achievement WILL NOT DISAPPEAR when u do the trick.


2) the Relics $$ abuse
once u have gotten 25 zerg/toss relics,the excess relics can be sold to the lab.If u need more $$ ,U can go back to those missions which have relics example: Smash And Grab,get the 4 relics and go to lab and get $$

3) the missions $$ abuse
I havent figure much yet,currently i just play liberation and go to lab after that ,still get 40K for selling relics even though that mission doesnt have relics.Liberation only takes about 2 mins.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 03 2010 03:16 GMT
#55
On August 03 2010 12:10 justiceknight wrote:
3) the missions $$ abuse
I havent figure much yet,currently i just play liberation and go to lab after that ,still get 40K for selling relics even though that mission doesnt have relics.Liberation only takes about 2 mins.

I think the logic behind it is that when you do new missions, selling relics doesn't actually consume the relics.

Example:
Supposely just got 25 zerg research. The next mission gives you 3 more points in zerg research. This should net you 30,000 credits for selling the bio-samples. However, the current bug is that selling the bio-samples does not cause you to lose them. When you redo liberation day, it re-checks to see if you have samples to sell, and since you didn't lose the ones you sold before, it gives you 30,000 more credits. As you do more missions and build up more surplus, you get more and more money from doing this.
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Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
August 03 2010 15:05 GMT
#56
On August 03 2010 12:16 TheYango wrote:
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On August 03 2010 12:10 justiceknight wrote:
3) the missions $$ abuse
I havent figure much yet,currently i just play liberation and go to lab after that ,still get 40K for selling relics even though that mission doesnt have relics.Liberation only takes about 2 mins.

I think the logic behind it is that when you do new missions, selling relics doesn't actually consume the relics.

Example:
Supposely just got 25 zerg research. The next mission gives you 3 more points in zerg research. This should net you 30,000 credits for selling the bio-samples. However, the current bug is that selling the bio-samples does not cause you to lose them. When you redo liberation day, it re-checks to see if you have samples to sell, and since you didn't lose the ones you sold before, it gives you 30,000 more credits. As you do more missions and build up more surplus, you get more and more money from doing this.


Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happens. I'm redoing missions for achievements and going back to the lab after each one. I'm getting loaded lol, I got like 2 million credits with nothing to spend it on anymore.
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TheDaemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 16:18:45
August 03 2010 15:55 GMT
#57
Doing a mission you didn't do on your playthrough seems to mess up the glitch. Like, I replayed "Haven's Fall" after doing the other mission where you kill protoss in my story, and didn't get any extra cash from the lab after that mission. Did another mission and got 90k, where I was getting 240k per mission before that. Pretty sure this is a glitch; if they would have designed it to work that way it wouldn't be so inconsistent.

EDIT: And then playing Liberation Day again got me my 240k credits after this. Weird. Oh well, I have all the credit achievements ^_^
LordOfDabu
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
United States394 Posts
August 03 2010 16:28 GMT
#58
This definitely seems like a glitch.

Here is how I understand it.

-Once you've exceeded 25 research points, a new counter is started for your excess points.
-When you go to the lab, the number of excess points is given to you in credits, and a switch is triggered that says you traded them in. However, the number of excess points you have is still stored.
-When you start a new mission, it checks to see if that switch was flipped. If it was, it resets your excess points to zero. If it wasn't, it keeps your excess points.
-However, if you start an old mission, it doesn't perform this check. So when you complete the old mission (maybe even if you abort it?) you still have all of the old excess points, even though you traded them in. This lets you continue to trade them in as you do old missions.

Is this correct? I can't test it right now. I'm just trying to understand the posts so far. Or is it that the third point above isn't true, and the check is simply never made?
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JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 03 2010 16:35 GMT
#59
You guys realize you don't need to pick a mission with research points. . . If your over 25 research points already, it'll just remember how many over you already have. That's why you can redo mission 1 for more money. Play till the mission before char then replay mission 1 over and over for the money.
AndyBear
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada132 Posts
August 03 2010 17:52 GMT
#60
So if I understand this right, before you head off to char, you can redo missions for Zerg and Protoss relics, get money by selling them, and buy every single upgrade, and then complete campaign and finish the Char missions?
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 03 2010 18:54 GMT
#61
On August 04 2010 02:52 AndyBear wrote:
So if I understand this right, before you head off to char, you can redo missions for Zerg and Protoss relics, get money by selling them, and buy every single upgrade, and then complete campaign and finish the Char missions?


Unless the bug isn't working for you, you can replay any mission (liberation day casual in 2:15) and you will get any research points that you are over the 25 on each.

There's 39 zerg research points and 36 protoss research points you can get total if you chose the route I did. If you get all those (you can go and get the extra credits after each mission if you want), and then replay any mission, you'll get 110k extra from protoss and 140k extra from zerg every time.

Let's say I have exactly 25 zerg and 25 protoss. I then go and play a mission with 3 protoss points, I go to lab and get 30k. If I replay a mission, I'll get another 30k and can do this as much as I want.
I then play a new mission that gives 3 zerg points. I'll get 30k because it was a new mission and I got 3 new, but the next time I replay something I'll get 30k for zerg and 30k for protoss, a total of 60k each replay.
Another new mission that gives 4 protoss, I get 40k. Replay lib.day and I'll now get 70k protoss and 30k zerg every single time I replay.

Unless the bug isn't working for you, you don't need to replay a mission with research at all, you just need to be above 25 on something.
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Camila_br
Profile Joined April 2004
Brazil529 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:17:51
August 03 2010 19:17 GMT
#62
1 - get 25 research points
2 - get more relics on new missions, but don't touch the lab
3 - when you get a lot of relics, sell them on the lab(example: 10 relics = 100k)
4 - replay a mission without relics, like liberation day on casual(fastest)
5 - go to the lab, and you will sell these 10 relics again for 100k

if you replay a mission with relics, you will reset the counter to whatever the number of relics you got in that mission(less than 10, obviously)
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