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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
July 30 2010 22:49 GMT
#61
On July 31 2010 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 23:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On July 30 2010 17:48 Mindcrime wrote:
sided with crew members both times.

I played the other side of those choices, and wtf those feel so wrong. Nova lies to get you to betray Tosh and then kills him wtf. fuck that

and poor doctor lady


Actually if you side with Nova she isn't lying.

The cinematics make it so that no matter which side you choose, it's the "right" side.


No it doesn't. If you side with Nova it does not tell you that she lied. But neither does it tell you that she was telling the truth and it does not mean that she did not lie.

As for the Doctor's mission, if you side with the protoss it's pretty clear that you did the "wrong" thing. Lots of people die, the doctor gets infested while trying to find a cure for her people and then she begs for death.

So, uh, no.


Yeah it's just like Mindcrime says. I redid those missions basically because of feeling guilty for abandoning my crew =/
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
July 30 2010 23:01 GMT
#62
On July 31 2010 07:49 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 30 2010 23:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On July 30 2010 17:48 Mindcrime wrote:
sided with crew members both times.

I played the other side of those choices, and wtf those feel so wrong. Nova lies to get you to betray Tosh and then kills him wtf. fuck that

and poor doctor lady


Actually if you side with Nova she isn't lying.

The cinematics make it so that no matter which side you choose, it's the "right" side.


No it doesn't. If you side with Nova it does not tell you that she lied. But neither does it tell you that she was telling the truth and it does not mean that she did not lie.

As for the Doctor's mission, if you side with the protoss it's pretty clear that you did the "wrong" thing. Lots of people die, the doctor gets infested while trying to find a cure for her people and then she begs for death.

So, uh, no.


Yeah it's just like Mindcrime says. I redid those missions basically because of feeling guilty for abandoning my crew =/

Uh, no. You aways make the "right" decision. If you side with the protoss you purge the colony of infested humans. How is that wrong?
TheTuna
Profile Joined August 2009
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 23:19:42
July 30 2010 23:18 GMT
#63
People need to realize that Nova is not lying if you choose to side with her.

The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what. So if you side with Hanson the colonists are fine and if you side with Selendis Hanson is infected along with the colonists. Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Nova is lying, if you side with Nova Tosh has been leading you on.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 30 2010 23:19 GMT
#64
On July 31 2010 08:01 sashkata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 07:49 Latham wrote:
On July 31 2010 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 30 2010 23:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On July 30 2010 17:48 Mindcrime wrote:
sided with crew members both times.

I played the other side of those choices, and wtf those feel so wrong. Nova lies to get you to betray Tosh and then kills him wtf. fuck that

and poor doctor lady


Actually if you side with Nova she isn't lying.

The cinematics make it so that no matter which side you choose, it's the "right" side.


No it doesn't. If you side with Nova it does not tell you that she lied. But neither does it tell you that she was telling the truth and it does not mean that she did not lie.

As for the Doctor's mission, if you side with the protoss it's pretty clear that you did the "wrong" thing. Lots of people die, the doctor gets infested while trying to find a cure for her people and then she begs for death.

So, uh, no.


Yeah it's just like Mindcrime says. I redid those missions basically because of feeling guilty for abandoning my crew =/

Uh, no. You aways make the "right" decision. If you side with the protoss you purge the colony of infested humans. How is that wrong?


Because you can choose to save them and cure them all?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 30 2010 23:21 GMT
#65
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
TheTuna
Profile Joined August 2009
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 23:24:03
July 30 2010 23:23 GMT
#66
On July 31 2010 08:21 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?


It's not nonsense, think about it.

You side with Hanson? No trace of infected colonists anywhere, no mention of infected colonists.
You side with Selendis? A significant portion of the colonists are infected.
Think about it.

Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Hanson tells you Nova was lying, if you side with Nova Tosh acts like a scumbag and there's no mention of Nova lying.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 23:25:55
July 30 2010 23:25 GMT
#67
Nova is just a total badass, why would you ever pick Tosh over her? And cmon, permanently invisible ghosts? Too good to pass up.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 23:49:29
July 30 2010 23:48 GMT
#68
On July 31 2010 08:23 TheTuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 08:21 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?


It's not nonsense, think about it.

You side with Hanson? No trace of infected colonists anywhere, no mention of infected colonists.
You side with Selendis? A significant portion of the colonists are infected.
Think about it.

Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Hanson tells you Nova was lying, if you side with Nova Tosh acts like a scumbag and there's no mention of Nova lying.


If you side with Hanson, she finds a cure.

If you side with Nova, Tosh is justifiably pissed off because you betrayed him, and there is no need to look into the veracity of Nova's statements given that Tosh is no longer on board.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
TheTuna
Profile Joined August 2009
United States286 Posts
July 30 2010 23:57 GMT
#69
On July 31 2010 08:48 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 08:23 TheTuna wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:21 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?


It's not nonsense, think about it.

You side with Hanson? No trace of infected colonists anywhere, no mention of infected colonists.
You side with Selendis? A significant portion of the colonists are infected.
Think about it.

Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Hanson tells you Nova was lying, if you side with Nova Tosh acts like a scumbag and there's no mention of Nova lying.


If you side with Hanson, she finds a cure.

If you side with Nova, Tosh is justifiably pissed off because you betrayed him, and there is no need to look into the veracity of Nova's statements given that Tosh is no longer on board.


You sure about the cure? I don't recall that. In any case, you don't see even a single infested colonist during the mission, which is VERY different from the scenario presented by the cleansing mission.

And if you side with Nova it's implied that Tosh was leading you on the whole time just to bust the Spectres out of jail.
Siretu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
151 Posts
July 31 2010 00:22 GMT
#70
I picked the protoss since it gave protoss research and I felt the protoss tech tree was more appealing.

I picked Nova, this was the hardest choice. Spectres looked like a more interesting unit but Nova was cute. Cute > Interesting though.

I picked taking out the air platform. I HATE when people use mutalisks and brood lords against me. I would've rage quit before the relic reached 50% charge.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 00:25:44
July 31 2010 00:24 GMT
#71
On July 31 2010 08:48 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 08:23 TheTuna wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:21 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?


It's not nonsense, think about it.

You side with Hanson? No trace of infected colonists anywhere, no mention of infected colonists.
You side with Selendis? A significant portion of the colonists are infected.
Think about it.

Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Hanson tells you Nova was lying, if you side with Nova Tosh acts like a scumbag and there's no mention of Nova lying.


If you side with Hanson, she finds a cure.

If you side with Nova, Tosh is justifiably pissed off because you betrayed him, and there is no need to look into the veracity of Nova's statements given that Tosh is no longer on board.

No she doesn't. (I would be EXTREMELY surprised if Blizz says she found a cure) Which is the weird part. The protoss detect infestation. The Doc says herself some of the people are infested and there is no mentioning of infested people or a cure from there on.

The whole decision should be based on "Do you believe the Doc can find a cure for infestation?" which by itself is doubtful, but trowing in the insanely short amount of time and it just become impossible.
alsowikk
Profile Joined July 2010
109 Posts
July 31 2010 00:25 GMT
#72
I saved the colonist since I'm a softie and I felt like not pissing off the protoss.I sided with Nova because Tosh and his gang were just glorified maniacs...and ghosts let me nuke stuff! Nydus worm since I HATE those things.

TheTuna
Profile Joined August 2009
United States286 Posts
July 31 2010 00:30 GMT
#73
On July 31 2010 08:48 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 08:23 TheTuna wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:21 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?


It's not nonsense, think about it.

You side with Hanson? No trace of infected colonists anywhere, no mention of infected colonists.
You side with Selendis? A significant portion of the colonists are infected.
Think about it.

Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Hanson tells you Nova was lying, if you side with Nova Tosh acts like a scumbag and there's no mention of Nova lying.


If you side with Hanson, she finds a cure.

If you side with Nova, Tosh is justifiably pissed off because you betrayed him, and there is no need to look into the veracity of Nova's statements given that Tosh is no longer on board.



Just rewatched the cinematic, and there's no mention of a cure.
Besides, the two missions are clearly not just different perspectives on the same incident. With the Protoss version the colony is being overrun by infested colonists, but in the Hanson version Raynor doesn't even seem to kill a single zerg-infested human. Clearly these are two separate story paths rather than two sides to the same coin.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 31 2010 00:30 GMT
#74
So for the Ariel and Tosh choices, which one is going to be canon? Or is Blizzard just going to never use those characters again?
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 00:33:01
July 31 2010 00:31 GMT
#75
On July 31 2010 08:48 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 08:23 TheTuna wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:21 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 31 2010 08:18 TheTuna wrote:
The game makes your choice out to be the right one no matter what.


Where did this nonsense originate?


It's not nonsense, think about it.

You side with Hanson? No trace of infected colonists anywhere, no mention of infected colonists.
You side with Selendis? A significant portion of the colonists are infected.
Think about it.

Same goes for Tosh/Nova; if you side with Tosh Hanson tells you Nova was lying, if you side with Nova Tosh acts like a scumbag and there's no mention of Nova lying.


If you side with Hanson, she finds a cure.

If you side with Nova, Tosh is justifiably pissed off because you betrayed him, and there is no need to look into the veracity of Nova's statements given that Tosh is no longer on board.


IF YOU SIDE WITH HANSON, SHE IS AS LIKELY TO HAVE HIDDEN HER INFECTION.

Side with TOSH and talk to him while hanson is onboard, he reveals enough about hanson that you can piece it together for yourself. She is definately the catalyst that drew the zerg to attack the colony in the first place.


On July 31 2010 09:30 Jyvblamo wrote:
So for the Ariel and Tosh choices, which one is going to be canon? Or is Blizzard just going to never use those characters again?


Given that tosh remains on board, i believe him to be cannon same with Selendis. dunno for shure though.
"Mudkip"
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
July 31 2010 00:34 GMT
#76
Tosh cuz Spectres are the coolest unit in the game :o. Just for fun i did 2 missions massing spectres and nuke facilities with viking support. On Hard.
Too Busy to Troll!
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
July 31 2010 00:49 GMT
#77
Actually I dont think any supporting characters will be mentioned again seeing as how the expansion will focus entirely on zerg. There of course will be confrontations with the other races, But I dont think it'll go father then the main characters in that retrospect.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
July 31 2010 00:58 GMT
#78
I knew I'd do the campaign many times (started with hard and want to do achs anyway) so I chose to be "the good guy" on first run. This meant I chose doc & Nova. And since broodlords are damn annoying to take care of (I dislike vikings) they had to go. As many have suggested, tanks are so OP that it doesn't hurt to have few extra nyduses laying around.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
July 31 2010 01:40 GMT
#79
i sided with nova... so what exactly did she lie about?
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
July 31 2010 01:44 GMT
#80
On July 31 2010 10:40 heishe wrote:
i sided with nova... so what exactly did she lie about?


that specters are crazy murderers?
"Mudkip"
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