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On July 30 2010 03:49 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 15:57 Adder wrote:On July 29 2010 15:43 Karliath wrote:
Um I'm not that good of a player, trying to do my best to scrape through the missions so here goes:
With "Smash and Grab," how should I defend properly so that I can focus on offense afterwards? Right now, I can't build up a large enough army (in time for z to reach the artifact) to both defend and attack. I edited my first post with an answer to this. After reading your first post concerning "Smash and Grab." I don't have any goliaths O_O. All I have are marines, marauders, medics, and scvs. Literally. I saw a video on youtube that shows people with more bunker space and a turret on top of the bunker, as well as a structure I can't realize, but how come I don't have any of this yet?
Yeah he got the mission wrong, he thinks you're talking about Welcome to the Jungle.
For Smash and Grab, the only real difference between Hard and Brutal is that Brutal gives Protoss HTs and the Zerg waves come with more mutas. If you're trying to do it within the achievement time limit, I can't help you, because that was hard enough for me on hard - but if you're content to sit and macro for a long, long time, you can just build a massive ball of mmm. When you push out, leave some at your base (maybe with bunkers) for the zerg waves, and just be careful about not eating full storms on the bridge.
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What were 2 or 3 of the easiest Brutal levels, first missions aside?
I'm gonna play most of the game on Hard (now that brutal has proven to be too hard for me), but I'd like to complete at least 5 missions on brutal.
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I need help with media blitz, what do you guys take out with odin? Also what's the best way to open? I always lose about 500 hp on the initial marines
What do you follow up with?
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On July 30 2010 09:06 Karliath wrote:
What were 2 or 3 of the easiest Brutal levels, first missions aside?
I'm gonna play most of the game on Hard (now that brutal has proven to be too hard for me), but I'd like to complete at least 5 missions on brutal.
Strangely enough, most of the later missions were easy on brutal (except the last one of course). The other two on Char were a walk in the park.
On July 30 2010 09:14 silverwind wrote:
I need help with media blitz, what do you guys take out with odin? Also what's the best way to open? I always lose about 500 hp on the initial marines
What do you follow up with?
You're supposed to lose a lot of hp on the initial marines (I lost like half), just be careful later and you'll take out most of a base anyway. It doesn't really matter which, but I took out the one to the right. It's good to have him alive though so don't get too low on hp. After you've killed off a base just take another expansion and chill for a little while. I only made thors and scvs at that map and it worked really well.
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On July 30 2010 09:06 Karliath wrote:
What were 2 or 3 of the easiest Brutal levels, first missions aside?
I'm gonna play most of the game on Hard (now that brutal has proven to be too hard for me), but I'd like to complete at least 5 missions on brutal.
Outbreak, the Nova mission, Welcome to the Jungle if you aren't going for achievements (once you know the unit mix its stupid easy), Smash and Grab, and The Devil's Playground imo
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On July 30 2010 09:18 kzn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 09:06 Karliath wrote:
What were 2 or 3 of the easiest Brutal levels, first missions aside?
I'm gonna play most of the game on Hard (now that brutal has proven to be too hard for me), but I'd like to complete at least 5 missions on brutal. Outbreak, the Nova mission, Welcome to the Jungle if you aren't going for achievements (once you know the unit mix its stupid easy), Smash and Grab, and The Devil's Playground imo
Could you give a few tips for Smash and Grab please? I'm having trouble with that mission right now (speaks for why I want to drop the difficulty level).
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Sorry, I have a question that perhaps does not fit as well. Let's say I play a level on brutal, simply to beat it. If I go back to the archives and do it on an easier level, will I able to use the technology I collect in the campaign?
So, for Smash and Grab, can I beat it once, then go through it again on an easy difficulty just to get the protoss technology?
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On July 30 2010 09:34 Karliath wrote:
Sorry, I have a question that perhaps does not fit as well. Let's say I play a level on brutal, simply to beat it. If I go back to the archives and do it on an easier level, will I able to use the technology I collect in the campaign?
So, for Smash and Grab, can I beat it once, then go through it again on an easy difficulty just to get the protoss technology?
When you "beat" a brutal mission, if you want the achievements you need to actually complete all the objectives for that mission, which is NOT the same as completing all the achievements for the mission.
For example, you could beat Smash & Grab by rushing straight to the statue on a lower difficulty to get the time limit achievement, then complete it on brutal with slower play and getting all the relics in order to get the brutal completion achievement.
I hope that makes sense. I'll flesh it out more later when I get some time.
FYI: I updated the initial post. Fixed Smash & Grab's advice to Welcome to the Jungle (it was the wrong name) and changed my strat for it too. Straight MMM is easier than goliaths.
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i had trouble with the great train robbery, i ended up winning by going strong marauders and a few diamondbacks for the fast ones. pretty much just beasting down the trains while they were in range. i killed both the roving marauder backs
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On July 30 2010 08:14 Hax_to_the_Max wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 07:38 NonFactor wrote:
I have a question that might be a bit off topic, but beats making a new thread.
I wanted the Kerrigan portrait so naturally I started doing the campaign on Brutal. But B.net decided to be graceful and DC me a few times during certain missions and now I have some random missions that I haven't cleared on Brutal. Is there a way to go and do em again and get the Achievement? Or do I need to start all over again? Is it possible to ask help from Blizzard because I afterall DID beat these maps on Brutal?
I'm currently on the last mission and not sure if I wanna go through the trouble and finish it, because if I need to start all over again, I don't see the point. I'm currently pretty pissed off because yesterday I also crashed during loading and lost my most recent saves meaning I had to re-do like 4 missions on Brutal, which isn't exactly fun, and now this....
On the last mission I agree that bunkers are way to go tbh. I've tried PF / OC, but they seem to fall, Barracks functions too. PF is what many people think about first but their repairs will drain your gas really fast. After you have finished the game, you can click "Continue" and therefrom you can choose every mission there is, + Show Spoiler + you can even choose to do Tosh's mission if you choose Nova's instead except for Piercing the Veil, wich requiers you to destroy an Science Facility in Media Blitz.
Alright, thanks.
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On July 30 2010 10:06 Adder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 09:34 Karliath wrote:
Sorry, I have a question that perhaps does not fit as well. Let's say I play a level on brutal, simply to beat it. If I go back to the archives and do it on an easier level, will I able to use the technology I collect in the campaign?
So, for Smash and Grab, can I beat it once, then go through it again on an easy difficulty just to get the protoss technology? When you "beat" a brutal mission, if you want the achievements you need to actually complete all the objectives for that mission, which is NOT the same as completing all the achievements for the mission. For example, you could beat Smash & Grab by rushing straight to the statue on a lower difficulty to get the time limit achievement, then complete it on brutal with slower play and getting all the relics in order to get the brutal completion achievement. I hope that makes sense. I'll flesh it out more later when I get some time. FYI: I updated the initial post. Fixed Smash & Grab's advice to Welcome to the Jungle (it was the wrong name) and changed my strat for it too. Straight MMM is easier than goliaths.
I understand this, thank you.
I am not, at the moment, concerned with objectives and achievements though.
Say, for example, there are 4 pieces of technology to be collected, which completes an objective, leading to the obtainment of an achievement. My question is, however, if each of those pieces of technology are used for upgrades aboard the Hyperion, or if they are just "useless" parts of the mission. Because if they are useful for the whole campaign, I will certainly go back on an easier difficulty to get them, which I assume I can do.
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Loki is on the east side of the map, roughly below the middle. It's at the 4th base you destroy (don't really need to go out of your way to kill it). It's a battlecruiser that will lift up when you near it. Don't trigger it until you have some serious AA. It has 500 hp and 4 armor, and fires its yamato cannon freely in addition to some sort of ground barrage. Loki has 2k hp not 500.
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I made the huge mistake of choosing to remove the nydus worm and face broodlords on All-in. To make things worse, I have no credits and my Vikings aren't upgraded for AoE damage.
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On July 30 2010 11:16 Karliath wrote:
I am not, at the moment, concerned with objectives and achievements though.
Say, for example, there are 4 pieces of technology to be collected, which completes an objective, leading to the obtainment of an achievement. My question is, however, if each of those pieces of technology are used for upgrades aboard the Hyperion, or if they are just "useless" parts of the mission. Because if they are useful for the whole campaign, I will certainly go back on an easier difficulty to get them, which I assume I can do.
I think you can go back later and it will increment your hyperion stores.
loki has 2000 hp, not 500
It might vary based on difficulty. I didn't kill Loki when I went in on Brutal, I went back and redid it on either hard or normal. I would not suggest killing Loki on Brutal.
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Man I am having sooo much trouble with brutal missions but playing on hard just feels too easy. Idk i think Ill just try every mission on brutal atleast once then maybe do it on hard if I have too much trouble.
Does anyone else think there is a pretty big jump between difficulties?
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Just curious but do you have to do the bonus objectives to get credit? I'm going back after beating the game on hard, and I'm beating missions but not beating optional objectives.. do these have to be done to get credit for the mission on Brutal?
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On July 30 2010 13:00 ScvReady wrote:
Man I am having sooo much trouble with brutal missions but playing on hard just feels too easy. Idk i think Ill just try every mission on brutal atleast once then maybe do it on hard if I have too much trouble.
Does anyone else think there is a pretty big jump between difficulties?
I'm pretty sure the actually speed of the game (fast vs. faster) is different, which is a big part of why brutal missions are harder. You have to think and act much faster.
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Dude MAW of the void, how the hell do you beat that one? I maxed out my one expo you get, and lost because of the freaking mothership teleporting back behind enemy lines to regen its shield, no mins left for me to repair.
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On July 30 2010 14:30 PhallicAgressor wrote:
Dude MAW of the void, how the hell do you beat that one? I maxed out my one expo you get, and lost because of the freaking mothership teleporting back behind enemy lines to regen its shield, no mins left for me to repair.
Don't kill the mothership. Yamato the vault as soon as you get in range and just focus fire it down.
If you need to kill all the generators, use your BCs to yamato the cannons along the side, then retreat, and use DTs to kill the last generator (it has no detection it).
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