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On February 19 2026 04:51 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 00:48 haitike wrote:
Both things can be true. I think Vini is an asshole and I can't stand him. But what Prestianni did was way worse and we must condemn it. Pretty much how I feel. Vini is a diva, a diver, and an arrogant asshole and I rejoice every time shit goes wrong for him on the pitch. But that doesn't mean he deserves racial and physical abuse from opposing players and fans throwing shit at him on the field. It's pretty disgusting what he had to deal with in this game.
I was at the stadium, and to be completly fair I only knew what was happening after the game when I looked at my phone and understood what originated the problem.
For me and for everyone in the stadium it was just Vini provoking everyone and everything and getting what he deserved. When the game stopped for 10 minutes i thought it was because people were throwing things at Vini (Completly justifiable given how he acted), for the racism there's no justification.
Everything must be looked into, and if it is proven there must be harsh penaltys for the player. For me it's a contract termination with just cause.
The problem here is, what if it isn't true? What if it is a misunderstanding. Mbappé is clearly lying to verify what Vinicius is telling. He exagerated a lot on his affirmations.
This is not an easy thematic at all... And I think we are getting to a point where everything is Racism. And when everything is Racism, it looses the power of the people that are fighting actively against that.
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Mbappé is clearly lying? What?
Mbappe is a lot of things but he doesn't cause on-field drama... So if he did then it's real
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United States10315 Posts
On February 20 2026 21:54 bObaZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 04:51 FlaShFTW wrote:On February 19 2026 00:48 haitike wrote:
Both things can be true. I think Vini is an asshole and I can't stand him. But what Prestianni did was way worse and we must condemn it. Pretty much how I feel. Vini is a diva, a diver, and an arrogant asshole and I rejoice every time shit goes wrong for him on the pitch. But that doesn't mean he deserves racial and physical abuse from opposing players and fans throwing shit at him on the field. It's pretty disgusting what he had to deal with in this game. I was at the stadium, and to be completly fair I only knew what was happening after the game when I looked at my phone and understood what originated the problem. For me and for everyone in the stadium it was just Vini provoking everyone and everything and getting what he deserved. When the game stopped for 10 minutes i thought it was because people were throwing things at Vini (Completly justifiable given how he acted), for the racism there's no justification. Everything must be looked into, and if it is proven there must be harsh penaltys for the player. For me it's a contract termination with just cause. The problem here is, what if it isn't true? What if it is a misunderstanding. Mbappé is clearly lying to verify what Vinicius is telling. He exagerated a lot on his affirmations. This is not an easy thematic at all... And I think we are getting to a point where everything is Racism. And when everything is Racism, it looses the power of the people that are fighting actively against that.
Hold up, even if Vini was provoking people, does that mean he deserves to get things thrown at him? I understand jeering and people telling him off from the stands, but how did we get to justifying assault?
How do we know that Mbappe is lying? Is that really the thoughts we go to directly in these moments? Why are the fans also making monkey gestures to him then if it's not racism? Even if the player himself did not say something racist, it's ok for the fans to do it? I'm really not sure what you're trying to get at.
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Norway28743 Posts
yeah the take that throwing things at him is completely justified is a pretty crazy take from my perspective.
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Northern Ireland26265 Posts
On February 20 2026 21:54 bObaZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 04:51 FlaShFTW wrote:On February 19 2026 00:48 haitike wrote:
Both things can be true. I think Vini is an asshole and I can't stand him. But what Prestianni did was way worse and we must condemn it. Pretty much how I feel. Vini is a diva, a diver, and an arrogant asshole and I rejoice every time shit goes wrong for him on the pitch. But that doesn't mean he deserves racial and physical abuse from opposing players and fans throwing shit at him on the field. It's pretty disgusting what he had to deal with in this game. I was at the stadium, and to be completly fair I only knew what was happening after the game when I looked at my phone and understood what originated the problem. For me and for everyone in the stadium it was just Vini provoking everyone and everything and getting what he deserved. When the game stopped for 10 minutes i thought it was because people were throwing things at Vini (Completly justifiable given how he acted), for the racism there's no justification. Everything must be looked into, and if it is proven there must be harsh penaltys for the player. For me it's a contract termination with just cause. The problem here is, what if it isn't true? What if it is a misunderstanding. Mbappé is clearly lying to verify what Vinicius is telling. He exagerated a lot on his affirmations. This is not an easy thematic at all... And I think we are getting to a point where everything is Racism. And when everything is Racism, it looses the power of the people that are fighting actively against that.
I mean if Prestianni said something racist, it’s hardly exaggeration or over-sensitivity.
Perhaps he did not, or it was a misunderstanding, it’s certainly possible.
On the flipside I don’t think much of the response from the Benfica camp, especially from Mourinho was reasonable. It’s one thing to defend your player when there isn’t conclusive evidence, but I think completely dismissing the possibility while implying that Vini brings it on himself is pretty repugnant.
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I think I've asked about this before in some shape or form, but do you have any interesting notions on teams outside the obvious big ones in Serie A and La Liga? I have pretty good access to both leagues and I'd love to understand a bit more about the teams that are not the big three of La Liga.
I guess Serie A as a whole is quite messy currently with a lot of potential teams battling for UCL and even the league title. La Liga seems to have a lot of regional rivalries, traditions and all that going on.
Any recommendations on which teams to follow, which derbies and rivalries to keep an eye and so on? In Italy Como seems to be flying quite high currently, any what's going on in there?
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On February 21 2026 05:35 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yeah the take that throwing things at him is completely justified is a pretty crazy take from my perspective.
I'm uterly upset about this all situation due to the way that Benfica handled it and I clearly overreacted here. But there's a reason why players get booked when they provoke the fans of the opposing team, because things can get messy really easy.
Regarding Mbappé he is clearly lying because at the end of the game he heard Prestianni calling Vinicius "Mono" 5 times.
This has already been thoroughly scrutinized and all of the videos have been reviewed and everything that Prestianni said in the game was mapped, except for the 1 second that he has the shirt in front of his mouth.
He clearly said something very wrong, perhaps he called Vinicius "mono", and if he did, he needs to be severly penalized, but mbappé is lying... I think he can get away with this because it's the biggest club in the world vs Benfica, and he said it to support what Vinicius is saying.
Any decision that comes out of this will be very controversial because of lack of proof. And Prestianni was already judged by the world, lead by Henry and Micah Richards, and found guilty, even without getting to the bottom of this.
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