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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
August 06 2024 23:14 GMT
#21
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are there any other first team squads with 7 senior gk's on the books?
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 07 2024 19:38 GMT
#22
They look a little light in their RB position, better buy a few more.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 08 2024 19:21 GMT
#23
We bought another keeper today to be fair, maybe one of those can play right back.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1930 Posts
August 09 2024 04:08 GMT
#24
You can soon start 11 keepers. I also like that the midfield is organized as a 4-4-2 as if they were a team on their own already.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 09 2024 20:32 GMT
#25
We signed a keeper and a winger today in Pedro Neto and Miners from Genk xD
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 09 2024 23:19 GMT
#26
Boehly is just playing Football Manager with Show Me the Money activated. wtf is this lmao
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-10 00:32:15
August 10 2024 00:31 GMT
#27
On August 10 2024 05:32 Pandemona wrote:
We signed a keeper and a winger today in Pedro Neto and Miners from Genk xD

What the fuck is your club doing lmao?

The mind really boggles at this turnover. How is anyone meant to actually build something with this market strategy?
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 10 2024 02:30 GMT
#28
Dani Olmo to Barcelona, the Guardian reports 60m euro.

Considering they lost him for nothing but how he's probably worth more, they can't be too upset paying that
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1930 Posts
August 11 2024 06:42 GMT
#29
If I understood correctly, he's been pretty injury prone the last few seasons at least. Looking at Barca's current roster, he's probably going to be starting vast majority of games without much cover. Could be brilliant or underwhelming depending on how he stays healthy.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
August 12 2024 05:21 GMT
#30
Ooh new thread!

Haha we are all predicting kompany to fail?^^
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
August 12 2024 06:36 GMT
#31
I’m genuinely not being contrarian but I don’t think it’s quite as crazy as some do.

Not all coaches are the right fit for every type of job. Maybe his ideas will actually mesh well with this group of players, plus he does have a certain bit of bonus kudos with his reputation as a player.

Not really a prediction per se but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a complete disaster, or a big success!

My only prediction for the season so far is that Chelsea are likely to struggle to do much. Maybe stretch to get the last Europa or a Conference place.

Not a dig at Maresca, I don’t see how any coach is meant to succeed with this mental transfer policy. There’s just so much turnover, so many players to keep happy with such a bloated squad I don’t know what they’re thinking.

It really fucked Potter over IMO, Poch took quite a while to shape things, and when it looked like he was finally getting to grips and there was promise going into a new season, they hit the reset button again.

I don’t like/hate Chelsea, Pande what are your thoughts on this? I’d find it bloody maddening! Conor Gallagher isn’t a world beater, but he’s a decent Prem player. Get 30 odd million for him to conform to financial rules and then go back to splurging on 50 wingers?

It feels like Boehly and his group are using the club to show off how smart they are in running a club differently to the orthodoxy, all the while showing there’s a reason why some of that orthodoxy exists.

Also as a neutral in such matters, I must say the early business between the folks who had to balance the books Was pretty blatantly dodgy and left a pretty sour taste for me.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 12 2024 15:44 GMT
#32
It just didn't make sense to sack Poch when things were finally clicking and then they now have to start against from square one with all these new players to boot. I expect them to be another mid-table team this season (technically they were upper-table last season with their good form to end the season, but they were 10th most of it).
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
August 12 2024 18:28 GMT
#33
On August 13 2024 00:44 FlaShFTW wrote:
It just didn't make sense to sack Poch when things were finally clicking and then they now have to start against from square one with all these new players to boot. I expect them to be another mid-table team this season (technically they were upper-table last season with their good form to end the season, but they were 10th most of it).

It really didn’t, now I’m also biased in I like and rate Poch, but he was eventually getting a tune. Potter there was less of a start slow, finish strong curve but from memory I do feel that having to integrate a ton of signings at once killed his momentum too. There was already a jump in expectations in moving to a big club where every result is big and gets scrutinised, but he also had to deal with managing a ton of player turnover too, which didn’t really need to happen but was a bridge too far (pun intended)

Also with Thiago Silva gone, they have almost no experienced old hand winners who’ve been there, got the t-shirt.

Liverpool legend turned pundit Alan Hansen has been forever mocked for his ‘you can’t win anything with kids’ remark’ (perhaps unfairly, worth a read), but that was a handful of young players sprinkled into a squad of seasoned ones. Also some of which came to be absolutely top players.

Is anyone in this cohort going to be better than any of Paul Scholes, David Beckham (in 2024 one is now as overrated as the other is underrated) and Ryan Giggs?

Just about the absolute youngest top team in football history I can think of is Ajax’s, but there’s some pretty key differences:
1. They didn’t have a gigantic squad to manage
2. Though young, many of their players had had years of experience playing a lot of first-team football.
3. Louis van Gaal had been moulding that team since 1991
4. Ajax’s young players were (mostly) Ajax’s young players. They came through their system, played together through the ranks and there was a cohesion built in terms of both interpersonal relations and a particular style of football. Chelsea have a bunch of players of a similar profile but they’re bought in.
5. They had Frank Rjikaard, one of the absolute GOATs of Dutch football there with all his experience of winning everything there is to win and being that bedrock for all these younger players.

It’s probably one of football’s bigger shames, as a neutral who decries how dominant a handful of leagues now are that that Ajax side didn’t manage to stay together. The Bosman rule was definitely fairer for players but that was an unfortunate side effect.

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 12 2024 18:41 GMT
#34
On August 12 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
I’m genuinely not being contrarian but I don’t think it’s quite as crazy as some do.

Not all coaches are the right fit for every type of job. Maybe his ideas will actually mesh well with this group of players, plus he does have a certain bit of bonus kudos with his reputation as a player.

Not really a prediction per se but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a complete disaster, or a big success!

My only prediction for the season so far is that Chelsea are likely to struggle to do much. Maybe stretch to get the last Europa or a Conference place.

Not a dig at Maresca, I don’t see how any coach is meant to succeed with this mental transfer policy. There’s just so much turnover, so many players to keep happy with such a bloated squad I don’t know what they’re thinking.

It really fucked Potter over IMO, Poch took quite a while to shape things, and when it looked like he was finally getting to grips and there was promise going into a new season, they hit the reset button again.

I don’t like/hate Chelsea, Pande what are your thoughts on this? I’d find it bloody maddening! Conor Gallagher isn’t a world beater, but he’s a decent Prem player. Get 30 odd million for him to conform to financial rules and then go back to splurging on 50 wingers?

It feels like Boehly and his group are using the club to show off how smart they are in running a club differently to the orthodoxy, all the while showing there’s a reason why some of that orthodoxy exists.

Also as a neutral in such matters, I must say the early business between the folks who had to balance the books Was pretty blatantly dodgy and left a pretty sour taste for me.

Yeah the transfer strategy is the biggest what the hell, in football and not even us fans understand where we are going.

Right now we are going to end the window with Felix, Pedro Neto and Oshimen in, when our defence is (or has been so far) utter shambolic and nothing has been done to fix this.

Up until signing Neto our balance was a profit for this transfer window btw, but with Felix and Oshimen to come in i feel like we will of course be back in our 150 million range, but we have a lot to sell still and many of those will be full profit so i can't bark at them on that front this summer at least.

I am confused on the Connor situation, they offered him a 2 + 1 year deal and like x100 his wages to be on the 180k range with the big hitters (not sterling or lukaku they dont count, Reece James is the ball park here) and he rejected it and obviously the club will not want him to go for free next summer so sell him i get all this. I don't get how it got to this stage though and i am a bit confused, both sides are saying they wanted to stay and it ends with him leaving so that is sad. Every squad in world football challenging for a title needs a Connor Gallagher in there squad, but now the academy product has been replaced by Ugowuchu who has loooked good in pre season which is a shame, oh well

The biggest isse i have right now though is the treatment of Chalobah, that guy last season was our 2nd best CB behind Silva and he hardly played because Poch is a clown and now is literally being forced out, another guy who is a great individual, no fuss and is Chelsea since he was like 10 and is being forced out by the guys above him, madness.

We have too many players that are stealing a living with us at the moment like Disasi as our directors are terrible at scouting defenders, Disasi and Badiashile have been very very poor and combined they cost £70 million lol!!

I am 50-50 about the season, much like Chelsea on the field, you are either going to see us score a lot of goals and win, or we will lose 3-0 and struggle to break a team down and get countered, so unless Enzo is a fast worker i can't see us competing, then can we pip spurs or yanited into 4th, maybe, but again going to be on them rather than us being better i would feel.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-13 00:42:53
August 13 2024 00:41 GMT
#35


Translation: We're sorry. Our graphics designers are on vacation.

(i believe the image refers to alvarez's nickname being spiderman)
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
August 13 2024 07:01 GMT
#36
On August 13 2024 03:41 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
I’m genuinely not being contrarian but I don’t think it’s quite as crazy as some do.

Not all coaches are the right fit for every type of job. Maybe his ideas will actually mesh well with this group of players, plus he does have a certain bit of bonus kudos with his reputation as a player.

Not really a prediction per se but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a complete disaster, or a big success!

My only prediction for the season so far is that Chelsea are likely to struggle to do much. Maybe stretch to get the last Europa or a Conference place.

Not a dig at Maresca, I don’t see how any coach is meant to succeed with this mental transfer policy. There’s just so much turnover, so many players to keep happy with such a bloated squad I don’t know what they’re thinking.

It really fucked Potter over IMO, Poch took quite a while to shape things, and when it looked like he was finally getting to grips and there was promise going into a new season, they hit the reset button again.

I don’t like/hate Chelsea, Pande what are your thoughts on this? I’d find it bloody maddening! Conor Gallagher isn’t a world beater, but he’s a decent Prem player. Get 30 odd million for him to conform to financial rules and then go back to splurging on 50 wingers?

It feels like Boehly and his group are using the club to show off how smart they are in running a club differently to the orthodoxy, all the while showing there’s a reason why some of that orthodoxy exists.

Also as a neutral in such matters, I must say the early business between the folks who had to balance the books Was pretty blatantly dodgy and left a pretty sour taste for me.

Yeah the transfer strategy is the biggest what the hell, in football and not even us fans understand where we are going.

Right now we are going to end the window with Felix, Pedro Neto and Oshimen in, when our defence is (or has been so far) utter shambolic and nothing has been done to fix this.

Up until signing Neto our balance was a profit for this transfer window btw, but with Felix and Oshimen to come in i feel like we will of course be back in our 150 million range, but we have a lot to sell still and many of those will be full profit so i can't bark at them on that front this summer at least.

I am confused on the Connor situation, they offered him a 2 + 1 year deal and like x100 his wages to be on the 180k range with the big hitters (not sterling or lukaku they dont count, Reece James is the ball park here) and he rejected it and obviously the club will not want him to go for free next summer so sell him i get all this. I don't get how it got to this stage though and i am a bit confused, both sides are saying they wanted to stay and it ends with him leaving so that is sad. Every squad in world football challenging for a title needs a Connor Gallagher in there squad, but now the academy product has been replaced by Ugowuchu who has loooked good in pre season which is a shame, oh well

The biggest isse i have right now though is the treatment of Chalobah, that guy last season was our 2nd best CB behind Silva and he hardly played because Poch is a clown and now is literally being forced out, another guy who is a great individual, no fuss and is Chelsea since he was like 10 and is being forced out by the guys above him, madness.

We have too many players that are stealing a living with us at the moment like Disasi as our directors are terrible at scouting defenders, Disasi and Badiashile have been very very poor and combined they cost £70 million lol!!

I am 50-50 about the season, much like Chelsea on the field, you are either going to see us score a lot of goals and win, or we will lose 3-0 and struggle to break a team down and get countered, so unless Enzo is a fast worker i can't see us competing, then can we pip spurs or yanited into 4th, maybe, but again going to be on them rather than us being better i would feel.


Yeah lol about Gallagher.. what the hell is going on there? I just read he is going back to London after beeing called back by Chelsea? Yeah he is going to be really motivated to play for them rofl
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
August 13 2024 11:38 GMT
#37
On August 05 2024 16:07 mahrgell wrote:
Look at that goal:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1ekaz2y/lanus_32_tigre_walter_bou_90_great_bicycle_kick/

That's just perfection, and it being a game winning goal in the minute 90 makes it even better.


That is the should-be puskas winner and I don't care what happens the rest of the season.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 13 2024 15:57 GMT
#38
Welp, Zubimendi not coming to Liverpool anymore. The market for DMs is so incredibly bare. You either need to get super lucky with the timing these days, or need to develop one yourselves and hope to keep them around too. Slot's looking to play Gravenberch at the 6 which is suspect. He's great in tight space but he needs to work on his defensive output and hustle. Either that or we try to develop Morton as best we can, who has shown a lot of potential in the role too. Please just no Macca being chained to a 6 role, he needs to move forward.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
August 13 2024 18:44 GMT
#39
I am not convinced by slot at all...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-13 20:59:45
August 13 2024 20:56 GMT
#40
On August 13 2024 16:01 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2024 03:41 Pandemona wrote:
On August 12 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
I’m genuinely not being contrarian but I don’t think it’s quite as crazy as some do.

Not all coaches are the right fit for every type of job. Maybe his ideas will actually mesh well with this group of players, plus he does have a certain bit of bonus kudos with his reputation as a player.

Not really a prediction per se but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a complete disaster, or a big success!

My only prediction for the season so far is that Chelsea are likely to struggle to do much. Maybe stretch to get the last Europa or a Conference place.

Not a dig at Maresca, I don’t see how any coach is meant to succeed with this mental transfer policy. There’s just so much turnover, so many players to keep happy with such a bloated squad I don’t know what they’re thinking.

It really fucked Potter over IMO, Poch took quite a while to shape things, and when it looked like he was finally getting to grips and there was promise going into a new season, they hit the reset button again.

I don’t like/hate Chelsea, Pande what are your thoughts on this? I’d find it bloody maddening! Conor Gallagher isn’t a world beater, but he’s a decent Prem player. Get 30 odd million for him to conform to financial rules and then go back to splurging on 50 wingers?

It feels like Boehly and his group are using the club to show off how smart they are in running a club differently to the orthodoxy, all the while showing there’s a reason why some of that orthodoxy exists.

Also as a neutral in such matters, I must say the early business between the folks who had to balance the books Was pretty blatantly dodgy and left a pretty sour taste for me.

Yeah the transfer strategy is the biggest what the hell, in football and not even us fans understand where we are going.

Right now we are going to end the window with Felix, Pedro Neto and Oshimen in, when our defence is (or has been so far) utter shambolic and nothing has been done to fix this.

Up until signing Neto our balance was a profit for this transfer window btw, but with Felix and Oshimen to come in i feel like we will of course be back in our 150 million range, but we have a lot to sell still and many of those will be full profit so i can't bark at them on that front this summer at least.

I am confused on the Connor situation, they offered him a 2 + 1 year deal and like x100 his wages to be on the 180k range with the big hitters (not sterling or lukaku they dont count, Reece James is the ball park here) and he rejected it and obviously the club will not want him to go for free next summer so sell him i get all this. I don't get how it got to this stage though and i am a bit confused, both sides are saying they wanted to stay and it ends with him leaving so that is sad. Every squad in world football challenging for a title needs a Connor Gallagher in there squad, but now the academy product has been replaced by Ugowuchu who has loooked good in pre season which is a shame, oh well

The biggest isse i have right now though is the treatment of Chalobah, that guy last season was our 2nd best CB behind Silva and he hardly played because Poch is a clown and now is literally being forced out, another guy who is a great individual, no fuss and is Chelsea since he was like 10 and is being forced out by the guys above him, madness.

We have too many players that are stealing a living with us at the moment like Disasi as our directors are terrible at scouting defenders, Disasi and Badiashile have been very very poor and combined they cost £70 million lol!!

I am 50-50 about the season, much like Chelsea on the field, you are either going to see us score a lot of goals and win, or we will lose 3-0 and struggle to break a team down and get countered, so unless Enzo is a fast worker i can't see us competing, then can we pip spurs or yanited into 4th, maybe, but again going to be on them rather than us being better i would feel.


Yeah lol about Gallagher.. what the hell is going on there? I just read he is going back to London after beeing called back by Chelsea? Yeah he is going to be really motivated to play for them rofl

Atleti wanted to sell us there young striker, we didn't come to terms with him, rumour is medical fail and some are saying no medical fail, was contract terms/rights so he walked away from us i believe.

Atletico get mad at this and then we say, well we can take Felix from u, but at this price and Atletico get mad again.

We then say well Connor coming back to us then as you not buying him.

Connor is coming back to train with reserves, not fault to the lad but he isn't "wanted" by the hierarchy so nothing else for him to do, same with Lukaku and Chalobah, i hate it (On Trev and Chalobah cases) but this is just standard business protocol, let alone football world.

On August 14 2024 03:44 sharkie wrote:
I am not convinced by slot at all...


I actually think he might do well, but he needs a transfer window, aka next season. Van Dijk is 33 and Salah is 32, Trent also not signed a new deal yet. He needs to make his mark on the team which will come next summer, i think his football is more rounded and suited to the league than Klopp's. The way Klopp worked was "all or nothing" fast pace which can cause issues which have found Liverpool out for multiple title challenges, but also has seen them produce fantastic results but not consistently. Won the league > lost 7-0 to Villa, came close to winning league > struggled for top 4. It was never consistent. That isn't to say i bet any Liverpool fan would change anything, but, Slot plays with more control, less gung ho and more precision, it might and probably wont work this season as the stars are ageing, however it might work when he can bring some of his players in.

It is not a high bar, but Slot is by far the best coach in Holland!
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