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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 27 2021 16:49 GMT
#2381
On April 27 2021 23:57 gTank wrote:
I dont believe this, I think Bayern buys out talent from the Bundesliga teams on purpose to make them stop being good.

I don't think Bayern gives a shit about the "strength" of clubs like Stuttgart, they care more about their own squad.

Upa is the first player they buy from a competitor since 2016 (Hummels).
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
April 27 2021 17:18 GMT
#2382
On April 28 2021 00:18 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 23:57 gTank wrote:
On April 27 2021 22:57 TerransHill wrote:
On April 27 2021 22:39 RKC wrote:
Dortmund has been Bayern's closest rival in last decade or so.

Gotze and Lewandoski jumping ship really epitomizes the 'rot'.

And now Dortmund is slowly slipping down. Leipzeig's skyrocketing ascension is fueled by money. No close rival at sight. Well done, FC Hollywood!

Edit: By 'close rival, I mean purely from recent footballing results at the highest level. Not neighbourly or traditional rivals (Liv v Everton, Liv/Arse v MU).


As if Bayern cares about bringing down their national "competiton". They care about having a good team and good international results. More national competition would acutally be benefictial to them.

BVB just bought the coach of Gladbach, in fact BVB is the club that buys the most players from the Bundesliga. So do they just buy them to stay #2 in the Bundesliga and shut down their rivals?

If Bayern wouldn't have bought Götze & Lewandowsi, ManU/Real or whoever would have bought them and Bayern would have bought other good players - the result from BVB perspective would have been the same.

And as a "close" rival, I would consider only clubs that are competing for a longer time, not only a couple of years.




I dont believe this, I think Bayern buys out talent from the Bundesliga teams on purpose to make them stop being good.


Dortmund tends to buy 'raw diamonds'. They nurture youth players (e.g. Sancho, Bellingham, etc).

Are you seriously comparing the 'poaching' between Dortmund and Bayern? There's a big difference between poaching up-and-comers, and proven star players of domestic rivals. Götze & Lewandowsi going to MU or RM is less bad because there's just Dortmund losing out. Bayern doing the poaching means +1 for Bayern and -1 for Dortmund - a double whammy.

I'm a fan of Ajax as well. And admittedly, they're dominant in the Dutch league. They may do their fair share of 'poaching', but they operate more like Dortmund (but with more success historically).

Edit: Responding to TerransHill actually. Just wanted to add from where gTank left off.


What is there not to compare? Thorgan Hazard was a proven starplayer for Gladbach for example, I would not call him an "up-and-comer", and even then, what does that even matter?.
Doesn't matter how you put it, Dortmund is doing the same thing to other clubs. I don't blame them for it and I don't think there's a direct intend to weaken the opposition behind it. But it's ridiculous to cry about Bayern doing it to them at the same time.

There is a clear career path in the Bundesliga regarding salaries and prestige. Everyone is buying from lower clubs, and Dortmund established itself as the club beneath Bayern.

And your double whammy is way to hyped up. Sure it feels bitter at first, but imagine Lewandowski goes to Real Madrid and Bayern gets Benzema. Dortmund would still remain behind Bayern. So why would Bayern not get Lewandowski if he is the better fit and wants to play for them?
Respect my authoritah!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 27 2021 18:38 GMT
#2383
Ok big game time! Come on Chels lets win the game in Spain!
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 27 2021 18:45 GMT
#2384
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
April 27 2021 19:11 GMT
#2385
Lol, not impossible that he scores, but damn that was a huge chance to squander.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
April 27 2021 19:16 GMT
#2386
And Chelsea takes the lead - after a very convincing first 15 minutes.

Gotta say it's not often I cheer for chelsea boyz but today is one such day.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 27 2021 19:21 GMT
#2387
Cpt fucking America!

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7437 Posts
April 27 2021 19:24 GMT
#2388
I hate Chelsea less than RM and they have a nice German squad in there now (Werner, Havertz, Tuchel, Rüdiger) so I'm rooting for Chelsea, too
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7437 Posts
April 27 2021 19:29 GMT
#2389
Had to check twice after seeing the rain where they are playing.... ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 19:45:33
April 27 2021 19:32 GMT
#2390
Damn, that finish by Benzema

edit: This Real Madrid training ground has top notch drainage
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 27 2021 19:46 GMT
#2391
Shouldn't have let Benzema get all that time and space and not winning the first header is criminal let alone the second one haha.

Puligod goal was damn good though :D

Yeah you get less rain in Stoke!
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 27 2021 20:38 GMT
#2392
This is legit the first time I have ever seen this tactic of a player laying down behind a free kick wall
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 27 2021 20:56 GMT
#2393
Good result 1-1 i guess, thought we should have taken more from that game though and looked a bit sketchy defending set pieces! Oh well back to England we take them and hopefully we can finish the job
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 27 2021 21:01 GMT
#2394
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 27 2021 21:02 GMT
#2395
Meanwhile in Florida...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
April 27 2021 21:07 GMT
#2396
I haven't watched much RM this season but this was a disappointing performance by them. Benzema looked very good - but that's kinda it, too.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27471 Posts
April 28 2021 03:55 GMT
#2397
On April 28 2021 05:38 zeo wrote:
This is legit the first time I have ever seen this tactic of a player laying down behind a free kick wall

It’s common enough to have nicknames in various places, but yeah I rarely see it.

In English idiom it’s the ‘draught excluder’ (the thing you stick under a door to stop annoying cold air currents, and in Italy it’s called the ‘crocodile’ but I’m not sure why haha

Wonder what it’s called elsewhere
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-28 04:52:18
April 28 2021 04:51 GMT
#2398
On April 28 2021 12:55 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2021 05:38 zeo wrote:
This is legit the first time I have ever seen this tactic of a player laying down behind a free kick wall

It’s common enough to have nicknames in various places, but yeah I rarely see it.

In English idiom it’s the ‘draught excluder’ (the thing you stick under a door to stop annoying cold air currents, and in Italy it’s called the ‘crocodile’ but I’m not sure why haha

Wonder what it’s called elsewhere

Maybe I haven't been watching football as much as I used to but it seems like a tactic used by lower league sides. But it is a great way to use shorter players... Or is it better to have the tall ones lay down? Hmm.

Im sure Ill be getting the Baader-Meinhof effect on this one and will be seeing it everywhere from now on just to rub it in.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7437 Posts
April 28 2021 08:41 GMT
#2399
With how good some players are with taking free kicks, I feel the wall is no hindrance for the shooter but makes it harder for the goalkeeper to see/follow the ball
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8940 Posts
April 28 2021 08:52 GMT
#2400
if that was the case then free kickers should have ridiculous goals or shots on target at least. a good percentage is still blocked or goes high/wide so the wall is still doing its job well
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