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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 21 2021 21:31 GMT
#1041
If anyone hasn't seen it, the inside scoop on the Hamilton strategy call in Spain. Goes to show how tight that call was and how hard they worked for it


https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBgt9HobIF/
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
May 22 2021 14:06 GMT
#1042
Man, I hate this idea that you can crash yourself to victory. Not only in qualifying, but if you crash enough to warrant a red flag in the last 75% of the race, you could win the race with a crash (Hasn't happened in F1 to my knowledge, but multiple times in F2).

I don't think Leclerc did this on purpose of course. Potentially, that crash could cause gearbox damage which would net him a 5 grid position penalty anyways. Neither do I have an answer to how situations like these should be solved. But it is frustrating to watch as a viewer
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
May 22 2021 15:38 GMT
#1043
FIA can put a rule saying the qualifying time stops immediately after a crash with a 2 minutes period added. This may stop most of the "intentional" crashes in Monaco. Clearly removing Monaco as a F1 race is not gaining any traction for now
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 22 2021 18:12 GMT
#1044
Still hurts most of the drivers especially if they're pushing for most of a lap before aborting. They cannot go anywhere near the same pace on used softs.

2 extra minutes does nothing if the tires are inherently half a second slower.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
May 22 2021 18:23 GMT
#1045
On May 23 2021 03:12 Lmui wrote:
Still hurts most of the drivers especially if they're pushing for most of a lap before aborting. They cannot go anywhere near the same pace on used softs.

2 extra minutes does nothing if the tires are inherently half a second slower.


Would probably work on Monaco, where the laps are short and corners are slow. Even today, we saw most drivers take multiple laps consequently before going in, with Max being on his third lap (having aborted his first, and used the second to recharge his batteries) when he had to abort what would have been his fastest at the end there.

On other tracks, no, I agree. It wouldn't really work unless you gave every driver an extra set of tires or something. It's just an inherent flaw with this type of qualifying. Shootout laps for the top 10 would fix this specific problem, but then introduce others (like track rubber, temperature, and weather being different between the drivers).

The only real idea I'd have to fix this is to disqualify people who crash, or give them a few grid slot penalties. That way you can't crash yourself to victory at least.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
May 23 2021 12:57 GMT
#1046
oh jikes. Leclerc damages bigger than expected. He's not even starting the race
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
May 23 2021 13:44 GMT
#1047
Well.. this is the strangest DNF I've ever seen in F1
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4068 Posts
May 23 2021 14:43 GMT
#1048
Am I the only one who thinks Horner is a moron for not making a free pitstop for Perez to prevent Hamilton getting that extra point for the fastest lap? So annoying. Wolf would 100% use his Bottas boy to do exactly that.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
May 23 2021 14:46 GMT
#1049
Sainz and Norris shares a podium

At least Ferrari got a 2nd with their plan SEA but very understanding tho. Taking the risk for Leclerc was worth it but it didnt worked out
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
May 23 2021 14:49 GMT
#1050
Carlos jumping into Norris' interview brought a tear to my eye. Bromance going strong!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
May 23 2021 14:51 GMT
#1051
On May 23 2021 23:43 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Horner is a moron for not making a free pitstop for Perez to prevent Hamilton getting that extra point for the fastest lap? So annoying. Wolf would 100% use his Bottas boy to do exactly that.


I was thinking the same. But Perez was within striking distance of podium, so presumably they held out hopes Norris would make a mistake.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4068 Posts
May 23 2021 14:55 GMT
#1052
On May 23 2021 23:51 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 23:43 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Horner is a moron for not making a free pitstop for Perez to prevent Hamilton getting that extra point for the fastest lap? So annoying. Wolf would 100% use his Bottas boy to do exactly that.


I was thinking the same. But Perez was within striking distance of podium, so presumably they held out hopes Norris would make a mistake.


he was in DRS zone 10 laps before finish but then already at around lap 73 he was out of the DRS zone and hoping for Lando’s mistake without applying pressure was pretty dumb.
Drone is a way of living
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-23 15:07:05
May 23 2021 15:06 GMT
#1053
On May 23 2021 23:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 23:51 Excludos wrote:
On May 23 2021 23:43 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Horner is a moron for not making a free pitstop for Perez to prevent Hamilton getting that extra point for the fastest lap? So annoying. Wolf would 100% use his Bottas boy to do exactly that.


I was thinking the same. But Perez was within striking distance of podium, so presumably they held out hopes Norris would make a mistake.


he was in DRS zone 10 laps before finish but then already at around lap 73 he was out of the DRS zone and hoping for Lando’s mistake without applying pressure was pretty dumb.


Yeah, could be other reasons as well. Maybe Perez didn't have another set of new softs, or RB wasn't willing to risk not ending up ahead of Mercedes in the standings for a race, as that will most definitively attract sponsors and PR, even if it's only temporary.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4068 Posts
May 23 2021 15:10 GMT
#1054
On May 24 2021 00:06 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 23:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On May 23 2021 23:51 Excludos wrote:
On May 23 2021 23:43 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Horner is a moron for not making a free pitstop for Perez to prevent Hamilton getting that extra point for the fastest lap? So annoying. Wolf would 100% use his Bottas boy to do exactly that.


I was thinking the same. But Perez was within striking distance of podium, so presumably they held out hopes Norris would make a mistake.


he was in DRS zone 10 laps before finish but then already at around lap 73 he was out of the DRS zone and hoping for Lando’s mistake without applying pressure was pretty dumb.


Yeah, could be other reasons as well. Maybe Perez didn't have another set of new softs, or RB wasn't willing to risk not ending up ahead of Mercedes in the standings for a race, as that will most definitively attract sponsors and PR, even if it's only temporary.


Yeah i think so too. Doesn't help but think Max is always 1 vs 3 - Hamilton, Bottas and Wolf, while Horner and the whole RB gang are a lot useless in the pure sport side of things... Nvm, moving on. Happy for all 3 on the podium and ofc quite sad about Charles ...
Drone is a way of living
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
May 24 2021 15:23 GMT
#1055
Another lynchpin of Ecclestone era is gone

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12315935/max-mosley-former-fia-president-dies-aged-81
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
May 24 2021 15:36 GMT
#1056
On May 25 2021 00:23 LennX wrote:
Another lynchpin of Ecclestone era is gone

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12315935/max-mosley-former-fia-president-dies-aged-81

Cue the 'I did Nazi that comming' comments
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-05 13:47:57
June 05 2021 13:24 GMT
#1057
Lol, twice in a row now qualy is ruined due to red flags in the last few minutes of the race

4 red flags total today. Must be a record or something?
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-06 03:34:47
June 05 2021 16:05 GMT
#1058
I missed this session of Turn 15 eating up cars. Damn....

Bottas got shafted by Mercedes. I will assume from this that his contract renewal talks are going badly

Edit:

Norris current penalty points. 8/12

2020 Stryian GP, 2 points, Neglecting yellow flag in FP1 (Will expire next month)

2020 Turkish GP, 3 points, Neglecting double yellow flag in Q1

2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix, 3 points, Failing to pit on a red flag in Q1
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-06 14:22:05
June 06 2021 14:00 GMT
#1059
Strolls and Max's failures were strange. Gutted for both of them, both of them were on for great results.

Seems like it could be a tire stress issue, with the rear right giving way on the straight just after the super fast flat out corner.

Vettel could actually get P1 here. Fresh softs on a restart.

EDIT: Holy fuck that finish to the race. Well done Baku.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4068 Posts
June 06 2021 15:38 GMT
#1060
Before the SS I was so frustrated, thinking Louis will snatch the victory on the back of second chance of the good start. Which actually happened... And then Baku delivered. Holy smokes what a finish to the race.

Vettel and Perez equally impressed me. I really hope Canada will be at least as entertaining as this one.
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