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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
December 02 2020 07:44 GMT
#821
That's the best opportunity Russell has to show his stuff. Unfortunate that it's on such a high speed circuit where his pace is determined by 4 braking zones, but better than nothing. I hope he gets the drive in Abu Dhabi as well, Marina is a much better place to show his pace.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
December 02 2020 09:15 GMT
#822


thought he'd take up a seat with alfa romeo but since giovinazzi ain't budging this will have to do
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
December 02 2020 11:56 GMT
#823
On December 02 2020 16:44 Lmui wrote:
That's the best opportunity Russell has to show his stuff. Unfortunate that it's on such a high speed circuit where his pace is determined by 4 braking zones, but better than nothing. I hope he gets the drive in Abu Dhabi as well, Marina is a much better place to show his pace.


How so? if anything its better for him , he will be able to qualify high and race at the front , it can't be easy to switch teams on such a short notice , the car handles differently (obvious) , but the steering wheel is also a challenge to get on top of , so such a circuit (when there should be minimal manual settings activity needed) is the best one to be competitive right away.

If he beats Bottas , mama Mia , Ham stock will plummet , Ham is crossing fingers HARD for Bot to dominate Russel.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
December 02 2020 15:25 GMT
#824
On December 02 2020 20:56 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 16:44 Lmui wrote:
That's the best opportunity Russell has to show his stuff. Unfortunate that it's on such a high speed circuit where his pace is determined by 4 braking zones, but better than nothing. I hope he gets the drive in Abu Dhabi as well, Marina is a much better place to show his pace.


How so? if anything its better for him , he will be able to qualify high and race at the front , it can't be easy to switch teams on such a short notice , the car handles differently (obvious) , but the steering wheel is also a challenge to get on top of , so such a circuit (when there should be minimal manual settings activity needed) is the best one to be competitive right away.

If he beats Bottas , mama Mia , Ham stock will plummet , Ham is crossing fingers HARD for Bot to dominate Russel.



Yup with only "4 corners" this week, it will serve as a nice getting used to for Russell while Abu Dhabi will be an interesting benchmark for the future.


For Mick Haas news, Kimi will be racing sons of 2 of his opponents next season. That longevity. Alonso will too race both elder and younger MSC
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-02 20:49:33
December 02 2020 19:56 GMT
#825
It's not the best show of Russell's 1 lap pace or ability to be "close" to Bottas. Qualifying wouldn't tell us much because of how tight the margins are between identical setups. The race might, but it's also pretty traffic dependent. Definitely a good warm up for Russell for Abu Dhabi, but not anywhere near as representative as other circuits, even the normal Bahrain GP layout.

It's kinda grey right now whether it's a one-race deal or two, so I don't know if he'd get a chance to drive the Merc in Abu Dhabi.

Edit:
As a side note, I argue Hamilton has nothing to prove here. He has absolutely dominated Bottas in the time they were together. If Russell beats Bottas, that means Russell is great, not that Hamilton is bad.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8267 Posts
December 02 2020 22:28 GMT
#826
I doubt Hamilton cares. Bottas will tho. If Russell beats him first or second time in that car, it proves to everyone that he's just as shit as I perceive him to be.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4105 Posts
December 04 2020 16:54 GMT
#827
lol Russel did not waste any time there
Drone is a way of living
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8267 Posts
December 04 2020 18:08 GMT
#828
hahahaha. That's too funny. I'm not going to pretend that practice times really mean all that much in the grand scheme of things, but holy hell. This guy couldn't even let his gloriousness rest one day
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
December 04 2020 19:10 GMT
#829
This track seems like complete ass to me.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-04 20:03:10
December 04 2020 19:45 GMT
#830
On December 05 2020 04:10 TheEmulator wrote:
This track seems like complete ass to me.

I'll wait til the race to pass judgement as the racing might actually be interesting, but as far as quali goes, sector 2 is a nightmare. Absolutely impossible to pass somebody without being impeded. I'm actually super surprised they won't relax impeding rules, because literally everybody will be guilty of impeding someone if they are in sector 2 on a cooldown or outlap.

As for Bottas, he actually put in a fastest lap in FP2 by a few tenths, but promptly had it deleted for track limits.

That being said, he didn't get anywhere close to Russell on any of his other flying laps, so I think Russell has a shot at qualifying, despite Bottas' faster ultimate pace. Russell has been super consistent, so he's just gotta nail it while Bottas is slightly off and he has qualifying.

I'd be surprised if Russell finishes lower than P2 without incidents though. Merc is just super fast in general.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
December 04 2020 19:51 GMT
#831
Yea the commentators said F2 quals were a nightmare. It might prove to be interesting at least
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
December 04 2020 23:45 GMT
#832
Russell in Mercedes just looks and feels right.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-05 18:02:00
December 05 2020 17:11 GMT
#833
We are gonna see sub 53sec for Q1...

I will board the Russell hype train if he gets a Merc drive next week and gets a decent result


Edit: Russell PEEE TOOOOOOOOOO by 0.026
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-05 19:12:48
December 05 2020 19:07 GMT
#834
the track is way too simple. pretty cool to have top 3 withing 0.05 second, and i don’t remember when was the last time i saw a driver running out of new tires and abandons qualifying because of that. Fun quali!
Oh and Albon and Vettel are consistently subpar ... I don’t see Alex keeping his seat next year knowing the ruthless approach of RB management to their pilots
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
December 05 2020 19:23 GMT
#835
On December 06 2020 04:07 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
the track is way too simple. pretty cool to have top 3 withing 0.05 second, and i don’t remember when was the last time i saw a driver running out of new tires and abandons qualifying because of that. Fun quali!
Oh and Albon and Vettel are consistently subpar ... I don’t see Alex keeping his seat next year knowing the ruthless approach of RB management to their pilots

Redbull keep putting out statements that they are giving him a chance to grow and other bullshit that I 100% do not believe
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
December 05 2020 20:29 GMT
#836
Albon's pretty done, that was a pretty pathetic showing.

GR matching Bottas is a pretty sweet result, and Leclerc pulled some magic there. That was way higher than the Ferrari deserved, I have no idea how he got it that high.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-06 00:11:18
December 06 2020 00:09 GMT
#837
I like Albon but I don't have anything nice to say about this qualifying. He just wasn't there at all. I want him to do well but this type of stuff just keeps happening. He's clearly a talented driver but it feels more and more like he's at the wrong team. I would love to see him head to head against Gasly at Alpha Tauri but it doesn't sound like that's in the cards. It's Red Bull or bust.

Reading what Leclerc said about that lap was interesting. He said he watched Gasly's onboard and saw a way of taking a corner differently so he did it and that's how he hooked up that ridiculous lap.

Russell performed about where I expected. It would have been cool to see him get pole but matching a guy who is able to beat Hamilton in qualifying is quite respectable. Doubly so given the circumstances. He was parachuted into an unfamiliar car that is not built to fit him (he's using a 3 year old seat and has to wear shoes too small for him to fit into Hamilton's car) and is against someone who has been at Mercedes for 3 years and he still almost beat him.

edit: for the track itself, I've found it really dull. Hopefully it makes a good track for the race but both practice and qualifying on it has been pretty boring. It needs more corners and speed changes. I feel like unless Verstappen gets ahead into turn 1, Mercedes is just gonna Sunday cruise off into the distance.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8267 Posts
December 06 2020 00:43 GMT
#838
I feel like the people who keeps saying this track is dull has not seen a lot of Indy 500. It's fine to have a semi-oval track once in a while. It's not meant to have a million corners; that's what we had last week on that same exact venue. Judging from F2 and how short high speed tracks generally tend to go, we should see a lot of overtaking tomorrow..

Of course, I could be wrong and it ends up be the most boring race ever. I guess we'll see
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 06 2020 01:52 GMT
#839
I've watched and been to lots of oval races. I understand them and the appeal of them. This track just feels like a crappy compromise between normal F1 and and oval circuit and lacks the things that make either type of track good. As I said, I'm hopeful it'll be good for the race tomorrow but I don't think it was great for qualifying. It feels like one of those tracks that would be amazing for lower series but isn't great for F1 because it's too easy for the cars.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-06 17:18:22
December 06 2020 17:15 GMT
#840
Its light out and away we go.

Russell leads

And &%E$^#$%@#%$#@#%@%#@#@$%@$%@%#$#^^#^$#^#%@#@^$$%#^

Bottas had a bad start, let Russell pass, blocks Perez, Verstappen, Leclerc.
Kimi spins. Perez locks up. Leclerc crashes into him.
Verstappen took evasive action to dodge them and into the barriers.
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