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I'm very happy for Magnussen. | ||
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"That's no racing incident mate", yeah, no shit. It was your fault xD Looks good for a first Russell win! edit: hahahahahaha. Max got the penalty for being pushed out of the track. You can't make this shit up | ||
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On November 14 2022 04:12 Penev wrote: Should be a first win for Russell now, if there's no safety car Well, at least he deserves it. He's long overdue On November 14 2022 04:12 Penev wrote: Should be a first win for Russell now, if there's no safety car Well..shit | ||
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On November 14 2022 04:13 Excludos wrote: Well, at least he deserves it. He's long overdue Well..shit I jinxed it | ||
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Max is one salty mother fucker 😂 | ||
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On November 14 2022 04:53 Aristodemus wrote: First of many! Max is one salty mother fucker 😂 That was dumb from Verstappen, unnecessary team drama | ||
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But grats to Russell! That was a long time coming! | ||
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Incredible comeback from Alonso and Leclerc. From last and second to last to 4th and 5th. | ||
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Russell and Hamilton drove well. I can't fault either of them. I thought they might be in trouble with the safety car but their pace was enough that it was a non-issue. Same with Sainz, he drove great today. Leclerc's recovery was impressive though his frustration with Ferrari is becoming very obvious and him asking them to swap him and Sainz was weird. Was not expecting Verstappen to go full mask off villain like that on his teammate, especially since he's already sealed the championship. Perez was an instrumental part of Max's first championship and has sacrificed his own race to help Max several times this year and this is the thanks he gets? It was telling that Horner immediately hopped on the radio to apologize to Perez. I feel bad for Red Bull's PR people because it's gonna be a bad week for them on social media. Gasly got hit was a penalty for speeding in the pit lane. He really needs to try to go a race without getting a penalty. He was lucky to avoid penalty points for this one but still. At this point he's getting a penalty almost every race. | ||
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Telemetry data I found from the Monaco qualy seems to support this, Perez floors it already before the apex. Still a wild theory though. 1) Why would Perez crash on purpose if he's 'only' in 3rd place in Monaco? 2) Why would he admit this to Horner and Marko? 3) Why would they tell Max half a year later? Idk what to believe and I don't think we'll ever find out, but Max definitely lost a lot of fans this weekend. | ||
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On November 14 2022 18:37 Laurens wrote: The current theory, leaked by Max' own camp, is that Perez crashed on purpose in the Monaco qualy, at some point told this to Horner and Marko, and Verstappen was told about this in Mexico and is now super mad. Telemetry data I found from the Monaco qualy seems to support this, Perez floors it already before the apex. Still a wild theory though. 1) Why would Perez crash on purpose if he's 'only' in 3rd place in Monaco? 2) Why would he admit this to Horner and Marko? 3) Why would they tell Max half a year later? Idk what to believe and I don't think we'll ever find out, but Max definitely lost a lot of fans this weekend. If this is true (And big "if". Atm it's pure speculation after all), then Max has every right to be proper mad. But the things you list puts some serious question marks about this story that makes it borderline look like a conspiracy theory. I think big grains of salt is in order for now | ||
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On November 15 2022 06:15 Aristodemus wrote: I highly doubt that Perez crashed intentionally. I was doubtful as well, but then I found this link with telemetry. I can pull the data later myself to confirm(can get throttle data from FastF1), but as far as I can tell he definitely floored it in the middle of Portier. Perez, and everybody else on the grid are far too good to do it accidentally. The problem with doing it at Portier is that it's such a slow corner due to the preceding corner that even if you oversped by 5kph (hard to go much more because the sequence out of hairpin is so slow), you should be able to just delay throttle and still make it around, you'll just be slow going into the tunnel. Any entry mistake at this speed should easily be correctable at the F1 skill level. Max would undoubtedly have looked at telemetry from the crash and seen the throttle application. It's just not something you do unintentionally. Swimming pool would've been the corner to "accidentally" clip something, but it comes with serious consequences, can potentially be a pitlane start, and you can't just shunt the corner, you have to clip the corner somewhere between -0.1" and maybe -1" at 200kph. Any more and it looks obvious that you've hit it intentionally(literally every driver comes within -0.1" to 3" of the barrier during qualifying depending on skill), any less and it makes for good TV, but probably doesn't end the car. Link below with the telemetry. https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/yugl3l/tomás_slafer_eng_tl_the_image_checo_does_floor/ | ||
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