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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 12 2022 12:09 GMT
#2201
On June 12 2022 21:06 LennX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 20:53 Penev wrote:

I think they changed the engine in Monaco but yeah they just blew up their 2nd one after just a 3rd of the season.. Hopefully they recover for the championships sake. Honda indeed eventually made a great engine and than immediately pulled out of the sport lol

Edit: Changed PU to engine, PUs consist of several parts ofc



Yea my bad for mixing PU and ICE up

And a 4th Ferrari powered car goes byebye =/

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 21:05 Penev wrote:
I would be very nervous if I had a Ferrari engine right now (and still going)


_

"Valteri we have a problem"

D:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
June 12 2022 12:14 GMT
#2202
On June 12 2022 20:59 Excludos wrote:
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On June 12 2022 20:45 Vinekh wrote:
Honestly, Leclerc should get the hell out of Ferrari. Terrible team that is wasting his time.


Lol, so sensational. Where is he going to go, exactly..? Ferrari is the only team except RB that is even in the contention for the WDC. A couple of bad races and it's not "he needs to fight for a comeback", it's "give up and look elsewhere". Give me a break

I bet Mercedes will catch up by the start of next season.
And probably even Binoto doesn't believe that Ferrari is still in contention.

4/6 of Ferrari cars are out of the race. Italian cars protecting their reputation.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-12 12:17:15
June 12 2022 12:15 GMT
#2203
Poor Yuki, a 6th position..

tape to the rescue lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
June 12 2022 12:16 GMT
#2204
On June 12 2022 21:15 Penev wrote:
Poor Yuki, a 6th position..


How can a wing break like that?

1st time seeing it happened
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 12 2022 12:21 GMT
#2205
It's rather annoying how Hamilton focused this Crofty guy is btw.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
June 12 2022 12:22 GMT
#2206
RBR not allowing their drivers to use DRS now.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
June 12 2022 12:26 GMT
#2207
On June 12 2022 21:14 Vinekh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 20:59 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:45 Vinekh wrote:
Honestly, Leclerc should get the hell out of Ferrari. Terrible team that is wasting his time.


Lol, so sensational. Where is he going to go, exactly..? Ferrari is the only team except RB that is even in the contention for the WDC. A couple of bad races and it's not "he needs to fight for a comeback", it's "give up and look elsewhere". Give me a break

I bet Mercedes will catch up by the start of next season.
And probably even Binoto doesn't believe that Ferrari is still in contention.

4/6 of Ferrari cars are out of the race. Italian cars protecting their reputation.


That's just a speculation at best. It would be insanity to change from a team that is actively fighting for the WDC for one that isn't
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
June 12 2022 12:27 GMT
#2208
On June 12 2022 21:22 LennX wrote:
RBR not allowing their drivers to use DRS now.


Safety precaution after what happened with Tsunoda. It's not like the RBs needs it anyways
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 12 2022 12:33 GMT
#2209
Good to see Ricciardo back in the fight
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 12 2022 12:41 GMT
#2210
Well, not very exciting this one, hopefully Ferrari gets their shit together
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-12 12:55:37
June 12 2022 12:43 GMT
#2211
Now British press, let's start focusing on Russell a bit more

E: Most national anthems are ok to listen to but I have to say the Austrian one really doesn't ad to the atmosphere to put it mildly
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
June 12 2022 13:15 GMT
#2212
On June 12 2022 21:26 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 21:14 Vinekh wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:59 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:45 Vinekh wrote:
Honestly, Leclerc should get the hell out of Ferrari. Terrible team that is wasting his time.


Lol, so sensational. Where is he going to go, exactly..? Ferrari is the only team except RB that is even in the contention for the WDC. A couple of bad races and it's not "he needs to fight for a comeback", it's "give up and look elsewhere". Give me a break

I bet Mercedes will catch up by the start of next season.
And probably even Binoto doesn't believe that Ferrari is still in contention.

4/6 of Ferrari cars are out of the race. Italian cars protecting their reputation.


That's just a speculation at best. It would be insanity to change from a team that is actively fighting for the WDC for one that isn't

Don't know what championship you are dreaming about. The only success Ferrari had was when the Red Bulls had issues in the first two races. Since then RB fixed their stuff and Ferrari is getting worse with each race.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
June 12 2022 14:01 GMT
#2213
Seeing Hamilton struggling to get out of his car in the race afterwards was painful. I wonder if something will be done by the end of the summer break with regards to the bouncing
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 12 2022 14:10 GMT
#2214
On June 12 2022 23:01 LennX wrote:
Seeing Hamilton struggling to get out of his car in the race afterwards was painful. I wonder if something will be done by the end of the summer break with regards to the bouncing

Yeah even Ricciardo (who's in a car that bounces relatively little) was complaining. It has to be said though that Mercedes' is lower to the ground than most; They could lift their car a bit more but that would not help performance obviously.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
June 12 2022 15:13 GMT
#2215
I wonder how long until Leclerc starts developing the same malaise Vettel and Alonso got near the ends of their stints at Ferrari? No matter how fast their cars are, Ferrari just isn't a championship-calibre team anymore. The same reliability and strategy problems that ruined 2017 and 2018 for Vettel are still present in the team but this year they just happen to have a very fast car to mask some of them. Charles is doing everything right but then is being let down constantly by the team. To put into perspective how badly Ferrari is messing this season up, Russell has now overtaken Sainz in the driver's championship and is within spitting distance of Leclerc, all in a slower car simply because he's finishing races and his team isn't making boneheaded strategy calls.

I feel bad for Tsunoda, who was on for a genuinely great race before his wing broke. McLaren's strategy was complete nonsense. Had they not told Ricciardo to hold position at the start of the race when it was obvious he was faster than Lando he probably would have ended up in front of Alonso at the end of the race. Instead they forced him to stay behind and we watched all of the competition close up on the McLarens then Lando ended up miles off their goal of overcutting Alonso anyway. McLaren seem to be particularly aggressive about strictly following team orders yet whenever they do them it almost never works out for them.

The difference in Vettel and Stroll this race was pretty stark. Vettel was racing Hamilton on merit at times and pulling off passes while Stroll was stuck behind Albon's Williams for most of the race. Stroll just seems completely checked out this season. Zhou meanwhile had his third DNF in four races and Magnussen had his second DNF in a row.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
June 12 2022 17:10 GMT
#2216
On June 12 2022 22:15 Vinekh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 21:26 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 21:14 Vinekh wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:59 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:45 Vinekh wrote:
Honestly, Leclerc should get the hell out of Ferrari. Terrible team that is wasting his time.


Lol, so sensational. Where is he going to go, exactly..? Ferrari is the only team except RB that is even in the contention for the WDC. A couple of bad races and it's not "he needs to fight for a comeback", it's "give up and look elsewhere". Give me a break

I bet Mercedes will catch up by the start of next season.
And probably even Binoto doesn't believe that Ferrari is still in contention.

4/6 of Ferrari cars are out of the race. Italian cars protecting their reputation.


That's just a speculation at best. It would be insanity to change from a team that is actively fighting for the WDC for one that isn't

Don't know what championship you are dreaming about. The only success Ferrari had was when the Red Bulls had issues in the first two races. Since then RB fixed their stuff and Ferrari is getting worse with each race.


This is a bad attempt at trolling, right..?

Where were you when RB had trouble with their cars in the beginning? I didn't see any "Max should find a new team" comments from you back then.
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
June 12 2022 17:44 GMT
#2217
On June 13 2022 02:10 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 22:15 Vinekh wrote:
On June 12 2022 21:26 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 21:14 Vinekh wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:59 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:45 Vinekh wrote:
Honestly, Leclerc should get the hell out of Ferrari. Terrible team that is wasting his time.


Lol, so sensational. Where is he going to go, exactly..? Ferrari is the only team except RB that is even in the contention for the WDC. A couple of bad races and it's not "he needs to fight for a comeback", it's "give up and look elsewhere". Give me a break

I bet Mercedes will catch up by the start of next season.
And probably even Binoto doesn't believe that Ferrari is still in contention.

4/6 of Ferrari cars are out of the race. Italian cars protecting their reputation.


That's just a speculation at best. It would be insanity to change from a team that is actively fighting for the WDC for one that isn't

Don't know what championship you are dreaming about. The only success Ferrari had was when the Red Bulls had issues in the first two races. Since then RB fixed their stuff and Ferrari is getting worse with each race.


This is a bad attempt at trolling, right..?

Where were you when RB had trouble with their cars in the beginning? I didn't see any "Max should find a new team" comments from you back then.

I don't think that two malfunctions related to completely new car in the first two races are worth even discussing. Shit happens.
Ferrari, however, is a terrible team for the past 15 years. Vettel wasted his time there, so did Alonso and Masa. Clearly Leclerc has great talent which is wasted in that team. The team is legendary with it's terrible pit decisions and reliability. So I think that it is best for him to seek a new team as soon as possible. Obviously that will not happen this season, the ship already sailed away.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
June 12 2022 18:02 GMT
#2218
Lol Russell on the podium is like that dude who gets invited last minute to a party; props to him for consistently beating his team mate;

Meanwhile at Red Bull:

Perez: yeah I’ m racing for the championship
Red Bull mama: no fighting
Verstappen: yeah is this pace good for p1?
Red Bull papa: slow down son, you’ ll damage the car

Leclerc: hey i’ m the best, always on top, should be easy to clamp p1 today
Sainz: i’ m trying to not make mistakes and get closer to my first ever victory
Ferrari engine: hold my beer

McLaren:
He pass, you pass, he pass, you stay behind
Norris:
Riccardo: I suddenly have more pace! I should be ahead!

Tsunoda: tf was that pit stop?
Alpha tauri: thanks to the latest scotch technology we shall fix your rear wing!

Azerbaijan: i’ m the hip of the party, you will always have fun here
Vettel: teehee
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-12 19:07:55
June 12 2022 18:59 GMT
#2219
On June 13 2022 02:10 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 22:15 Vinekh wrote:
On June 12 2022 21:26 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 21:14 Vinekh wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:59 Excludos wrote:
On June 12 2022 20:45 Vinekh wrote:
Honestly, Leclerc should get the hell out of Ferrari. Terrible team that is wasting his time.


Lol, so sensational. Where is he going to go, exactly..? Ferrari is the only team except RB that is even in the contention for the WDC. A couple of bad races and it's not "he needs to fight for a comeback", it's "give up and look elsewhere". Give me a break

I bet Mercedes will catch up by the start of next season.
And probably even Binoto doesn't believe that Ferrari is still in contention.

4/6 of Ferrari cars are out of the race. Italian cars protecting their reputation.


That's just a speculation at best. It would be insanity to change from a team that is actively fighting for the WDC for one that isn't

Don't know what championship you are dreaming about. The only success Ferrari had was when the Red Bulls had issues in the first two races. Since then RB fixed their stuff and Ferrari is getting worse with each race.


This is a bad attempt at trolling, right..?

Where were you when RB had trouble with their cars in the beginning? I didn't see any "Max should find a new team" comments from you back then.

I don't see anything wrong with what they said. Red Bull has a track record of identifying and fixing problems when they pop up be it in strategy or in reliability. Them having mechanical issues the first couple races of a new season with an all new power unit is not a weird thing. What would have been weird is if they didn't fix it, which didn't happen. They identified the problems and fixed them. Last year they showed an ability to adapt strategy after Mercedes forced them into weird positions in a few races.

Ferrari is the opposite of this. They have a long history of messing up and failing to fixing mechanical and strategic issues. The types of mistakes they've been making this year are identical to the ones they made in 2017 and 2018 when they last had a properly competitive car, which suggests that they never actually fixed all of the team issues they used to have. If Ferrari wants to win a championship, they can't keep messing up strategy and allowing mechanical problems to persist for multiple races in a row.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 12 2022 20:28 GMT
#2220
Still begs the question; Where should he go? I'm sure Leclerc would rather be in a Red Bull right now but there aren't any vacant seats over there anytime soon. Mercedes would be the next best option but he'd need Hamilton to retire first and even than it's not exactly a certainty. All other teams are clearly a step down so yeah..
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