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On August 12 2016 11:22 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2016 11:13 dmnum wrote:
How the fuck can Brazilian swimmers have such low resilience?
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Brazilian swimmers die in the last 15 meters. Is there any other explanation than bad training? "resources" doesn't work, because government invested a ton of money in swimming and judo these olympics. A lot of 4th and 5th place for them  Could be the team strategy to give all at the start and then try to keep the lead. The best swimmers sometime do the opposite and keep resource for the last 30-20 meters to do a last push.
might be the cheers getting to them and 200m+ swimming at this level is brutal, the swimmers literally finish with blue lips.
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On August 12 2016 11:19 Dante08 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2016 11:13 Nakajin wrote:
Pffffff, the more I see Phelps the less I belive he is clean. Could be wrong but that dosen't seems possible. Pretty sure he gets tested all the time. Gotta believe it until proven otherwise!
I use to belive in him, but seeing him comming back pass 30 after a 2 year break and having nowhere near these result just a couple of month ago kind of made me lose fate. Hope he is clean of course.
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On August 12 2016 11:22 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2016 11:13 dmnum wrote:
How the fuck can Brazilian swimmers have such low resilience?
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Brazilian swimmers die in the last 15 meters. Is there any other explanation than bad training? "resources" doesn't work, because government invested a ton of money in swimming and judo these olympics. A lot of 4th and 5th place for them Could be the team strategy to give all at the start and then try to keep the lead. The best swimmers sometime do the opposite and keep resource for the last 30-20 meters to do a last push.
Yeah, but the Brazilian commentator (some swimmer who competed in the Olympics) said that people told Thiago many times that he should save some energy because he always dies at the last 15 meters. It makes me think that Brazilian swimmers/coaches are simply dumb because you cannot fail so many times and keep making the same mistakes.
Edit: it's fucking infuriating because these guys have always complained about low investment and for the last 4 years or so they government has put 50m in swimming per year. I wonder what they're going to blame this time.
I don't mean to sound like a hater - I understand competing at this level is incredibly hard but c'mon, at some point a country with 200 million people has to start getting more than 20 medals per Olympics.
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Lol tie, by the way if it can make you feel better Australia seems to have the same problem then Brazil.
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On August 12 2016 11:34 Nakajin wrote:
Lol tie, by the way if it can make you feel better Australia seems to have the same problem then Brazil.
Yeah but they're still 5th place in medals. Brazil's best prediction was for a 10th place and we might not even get close to that. BTW I don't wish everyone was worse, I wish we were better
edit: at least Sarah Sjostrom got a medal, that makes up for it a bit.
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On August 12 2016 11:41 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2016 11:34 Nakajin wrote:
Lol tie, by the way if it can make you feel better Australia seems to have the same problem then Brazil. Yeah but they're still 5th place in medals. Brazil's best prediction was for a 10th place and we might not even get close to that. BTW I don't wish everyone was worse, I wish we were better edit: at least Sarah Sjostrom got a medal, that makes up for it a bit.
It's hard to break into these sports. Even if your government has started investing a lot of money, other countries have been doing so for a long time. Many have traditionally strong sports, meaning the current generation is coached by the champions of the last generation.
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On August 12 2016 11:51 bardtown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2016 11:41 dmnum wrote:On August 12 2016 11:34 Nakajin wrote:
Lol tie, by the way if it can make you feel better Australia seems to have the same problem then Brazil. Yeah but they're still 5th place in medals. Brazil's best prediction was for a 10th place and we might not even get close to that. BTW I don't wish everyone was worse, I wish we were better edit: at least Sarah Sjostrom got a medal, that makes up for it a bit. It's hard to break into these sports. Even if your government has started investing a lot of money, other countries have been doing so for a long time. Many have traditionally strong sports, meaning the current generation is coached by the champions of the last generation.
Yeah, but I mean...Thiago Pereira was fourth place for the last two olympics. Cielo is a gold medalist. Sarah Menezes is a gold medalist. Kitadai is a bronze medalist...the list goes on. Breaking into these sports is hard, but it's not like we were absolute trash at them. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect at least one of these dudes to do better at home. Yet we have only been disappointed so far(except from Rafaela Silva and Felipe Wu).
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wow i'm very surprised with campbell's failure in the 100m. She swam 52"06 just a month ago. I wonder if her tapering was done poorly. It doens't make sense because she swam 52"71 very easily during preliminaries and semi-finals. No clue what happened.
I understand why Pereira failed. He probably thought his semi-final time wouldn't be enough to get a medal and decided to risk all in, but he couldn't hold his speed. He couldn't know beforehand that the times of his opponents would be so bad. I'm very surprised someone got a medal swimming 1'57"05. For the record, Laszo Cseh got a bronze medal in 2012 with a 1'56"20 time.
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Might be, I only competed until I was 10 and that was only on the local level, so I'm not too knowledgeable about it. I'll try to be less emo.
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On August 12 2016 12:17 dmnum wrote:
Might be, I only competed until I was 10 and that was only on the local level, so I'm not too knowledgeable about it. I'll try to be less emo.
You scrub, keep your opinion to yourself. I know what I am talking about, I did swimming until I was 12.
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The main reason i believe Phelps is clean, besides the fact that he's tested all the time, is even visually you can see he is a freakish human simply perfect for swimming. Crazy wingspan, long torso, double jointed, etc.
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On August 12 2016 13:09 DannyJ wrote:
even visually you can see he is a freakish human simply perfect for swimming. Crazy wingspan, long torso, double jointed, etc.
Katie Ledecky is the opposite, and she's killing it!
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On a somewhat related to swimming note, how come there are so many medals awarded for swimming, anyway? For most other disciplines, getting more than 1 medal is borderline impossible, whereas in swimming you see multiple people get 3+ medals pretty much every 4 years.
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I think it's just because there's both different distances and different ways to swim.
If there were more legitimate ways to run then running would probably have just as many, if not more.
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On August 12 2016 15:36 Draconicfire wrote:
I think it's just because there's both different distances and different ways to swim.
If there were more legitimate ways to run then running would probably have just as many, if not more.
Yes. We need backward and sideways running at the Olympics.
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How bout that Oleksiak though amiright?
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Using amount of testing as an argument for athletes being clean rests upon the notion that 1) tests are reliable and 2) that dopers have shit doctors to hide their doping. Lance Armstrong was allegedly the most tested cyclist and see how long it took them to bust him.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong. I want to believe as much as everyone else. That particular argument is just really bad.
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Woot turned out to be a good day for Japan after all after the judo fails!
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Wow Fiji's first medal at the Olympics ever with a casual 43:7 in the Rugby finals? Cool stuff.
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