EPT2015 - 2016 Football Thread - Page 247
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malcram
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 24 2016 02:26 smr wrote: What a goal by Alli. With 3rd and 5th place both drawing their games it's a perfect opportunity for Dortmund to lose. Traore will destroy Park and Pisczcek isn't the guy who controlled Ronaldo a few years back anymore. Can see both of them being replaced by half-time. You were saying?  | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
That worked out perfectly. I thought when I'm able to curse Chelseas opponents week in, week out the same should work for my own team : D | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
That sounds like a comfortable win against a tough opponent. | ||
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Azza
China650 Posts
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Greg_J
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/mHiuF/dc4009752a.png) Top of league and have 42% average possession over the season and lowest was 33% in a game they won  | ||
GTR
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8943 Posts
the only reason he hasnt already been sacked is because he has name value. if this was moyes someone would have burned him already | ||
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
On January 24 2016 11:41 Pandemona wrote: Leicester, kings of /counter. Can't knock the style it just they NEVER keep the ball, i mean Real Madrid and Mourinho teams as a whole use this tactic but they don't do it EVERY GAME. Vs top teams not god a problem, but Leicester do not have good possession stats at all for a team top of the league. Highest possession was in 2-2 draw vs Southampton at 57%. Top of league and have 42% average possession over the season and lowest was 33% in a game they won I read somewhere that they also have to lowest pass completion in the league, but the highest number of "win the ball in opponents half" | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On January 24 2016 11:41 Pandemona wrote: Leicester, kings of /counter. Can't knock the style it just they NEVER keep the ball, i mean Real Madrid and Mourinho teams as a whole use this tactic but they don't do it EVERY GAME. Vs top teams not god a problem, but Leicester do not have good possession stats at all for a team top of the league. Highest possession was in 2-2 draw vs Southampton at 57%. Top of league and have 42% average possession over the season and lowest was 33% in a game they won Football is changing, I think so much work and science went into figuring out how to play without the ball against possession teams that now teams that don't have the ball play better. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On January 24 2016 19:48 zeo wrote: Football is changing, I think so much work and science went into figuring out how to play without the ball against possession teams that now teams that don't have the ball play better. A lot has to do with underestimating the opponent aswell. Dortmund was able to win two German championshps because everybody allowed us to counterattack. Players might now that Leicester is damn strong at the moment but they won't be afraid because those aren't big names. Parking the bus in the most extreme way can do wonders as long as you do not allow the likes of Mahrez to dribble through 5 of your players. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 24 2016 20:00 smr wrote: A lot has to do with underestimating the opponent aswell. Dortmund was able to win two German championshps because everybody allowed us to counterattack. Players might now that Leicester is damn strong at the moment but they won't be afraid because those aren't big names. Parking the bus in the most extreme way can do wonders as long as you do not allow the likes of Mahrez to dribble through 5 of your players. Pretty much this, once teams start figuring you out and making it a priority, having a target on your back so to speak, the game gets hard for real. That is something I expect Leicester to suffer from at some point in the season. But I kinda hope they win, it would be a nice story and a hilarious indictment of the quality of the top teams + Show Spoiler + (as if they arent bad enough already) With respect to football changing.. Italians had been winning shit for decades by just kicking the shit out of the opponent and using a couple of skilled attackers to go score by themselves. While its true that the last decade or so alot of work has gone into playing well without the ball, its not so much about skill and hard ability as it is understanding/reading the game and being monstrously fit. Ofcourse there is a team element to it that is hard but gets easier as you play deeper. The deeper you defend the easier it gets. As for teams that dont have the ball being better. Thats pretty much bullshit. You need the ball to score. If you have more of it, the more chance you have to make said possession relevant. Just because a team here or there bucks the trend doesn't change that. It just suggest that its a relevant way to play like it has been since forever. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18774 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:25 Rebs wrote: Pretty much this, once teams start figuring you out and making it a priority, having a target on your back so to speak, the game gets hard for real. That is something I expect Leicester to suffer from at some point in the season. But I kinda hope they win, it would be a nice story and a hilarious indictment of the quality of the top teams + Show Spoiler + (as if they arent bad enough already) With respect to football changing.. Italians had been winning shit for decades by just kicking the shit out of the opponent and using a couple of skilled attackers to go score by themselves. While its true that the last decade or so alot of work has gone into playing well without the ball, its not so much about skill and hard ability as it is understanding/reading the game and being monstrously fit. Ofcourse there is a team element to it that is hard but gets easier as you play deeper. The deeper you defend the easier it gets. As for teams that dont have the ball being better. Thats pretty much bullshit. You need the ball to score. If you have more of it, the more chance you have to make said possession relevant. Just because a team here or there bucks the trend doesn't change that. It just suggest that its a relevant way to play like it has been since forever. Possession based Barca was way less dangerous than current Barca is. Same with Bayern, possession based Bayern (with better players) is less dangerous than pre-Guardiola Bayern. There is a limit to everything, Guardiola is focusing way too much on possession. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:19 sharkie wrote: Possession based Barca was way less dangerous than current Barca is. Same with Bayern, possession based Bayern (with better players) is less dangerous than pre-Guardiola Bayern. There is a limit to everything, Guardiola is focusing way too much on possession. What's your definition of dangerous? If you mean "more likely to score goals", maybe... But "more likely to win", not really x) The thing is, if you play a possession based football, you're not leaving much ball time for the opposite team to attack you with many players, so you're more likely to face 2 lines of 4... When you play like a counter-attacking style, you let the other team use the ball more, and they'll give you more space when it's your turn to attack. But if the team you're facing parks the bus ANYWAY, I'd argue that a possession based football (Barça) will have higher win rate than the counter-attacking one (Mou's Madrid) because the first knows how to beat an organized defense whereas the other relies on space and speed (which you can't have in that situation) to make the difference. There's no better style, everyone has a different taste for football. I prefer Guardiola's Barça to Enrique's because for me possession means thinking and exploiting the right opportunities, which I find smart and exciting (because not many teams can do it). But other people might find it boring  | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 24 2016 14:35 GTR wrote: holy fuck at this rate lvg is becoming moyes-level bad Moyes is already better that LVG with more points and had an older squad. | ||
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malcram
2752 Posts
not much contact really.. lol. costa just left his leg there to get the red out. | ||
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Greg_J
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