Just watched highlights, i'm fucking fuming. Anyone who doesn't hate Costa need to get their head checked, what a fucking disgrace. Hope he gets injured badly soon.

ZapRoffo

United States5544 Posts

September 20 2015 22:24 GMT

#2344

On September 21 2015 03:42 Pandemona wrote:
Carlos Tevez getting into the Argentina leagues well...

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Ouch tackle!

That broke the guy's leg, you can see it gruesomely bend.

Eliezar

United States481 Posts

September 21 2015 01:57 GMT

#2345

On September 21 2015 03:42 Pandemona wrote:
Carlos Tevez getting into the Argentina leagues well...

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Ouch tackle!

Ouch is an understatement

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

September 21 2015 06:26 GMT

#2346

Favre is a great manager, but he couldn't integrate the new signings into his system and compensate for the lost personnel. Stindl is a good player, but I am not so sure if Drmic has what it takes. And admittedly, Kramer is a special player, that is hard to replace. Frustratingly, Leverkusen don't even need him that much.

Maybe a new manager with a new approach can turn around this season for Gladbach (obviously the Champions Leagues is too much for them anyway). Their players aren't THAT bad.

I really enjoyed Gladbach being part of the top flight in the Bundesliga, I'd hate it, if that would end now, given their rich history. Maybe not many people outside of Germany remember it, but they were actually one of the European top teams in the 70s.

Salteador Neo

Andorra5591 Posts

September 21 2015 07:20 GMT

#2347

Real Madrid with the usual antics: Wrong offside call on the opponents' legit goal and score their goal in offside. Yet another 3 points gifted.

Dingodile

4135 Posts

September 21 2015 08:30 GMT

#2348

Favre goes the same way as Klopp and disclaim on 5m€ dismissal wage. Klopp disclaimed 18m€.

BvB asked him before Tuchel :D

Dante08

Singapore4128 Posts

September 22 2015 10:57 GMT

#2349

So apparently Moyes was 6th on Fergie's choice of succession, 1st being Pep. I wonder if the list was before or after United finished 7th xD

evilfatsh1t

Australia8731 Posts

September 22 2015 11:24 GMT

#2350

source? if moyes was 6th why the hell was he appointed. surely someone else was available at the time. i dont remember who was available anymore but there had to have been someone

XPA

Germany242 Posts

September 22 2015 11:33 GMT

#2351

On September 22 2015 20:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
source? if moyes was 6th why the hell was he appointed. surely someone else was available at the time. i dont remember who was available anymore but there had to have been someone

German media says it´s writtin in his book.
Other candidates listed here are Mourinho (was surely going to Chelsea), Ancelotti (at Real), Guardiola (signed at Bayern) and Klopp (not leaving Dortmund).

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 22 2015 12:41 GMT

#2352

Yeah in his new book its stupid.

He demanded he was paid more than the players, no player at Yanited was paid more than Alex Ferguson, meaning he was on as a manager £250,000 a week xD

evilfatsh1t

Australia8731 Posts

September 22 2015 12:43 GMT

#2353

could have made sir alex the highest paid person in the whole footballing world for all i care. every bit of it would be money well spent

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 22 2015 12:45 GMT

#2354

You say that which i agree, best manager in the world for me. However he doesn't put the ball in the net or save it does he? He picks the team and prepares them it is still down to the players isnt it xD

sharkie

Austria18483 Posts

September 22 2015 13:14 GMT

#2355

On September 22 2015 21:45 Pandemona wrote:
You say that which i agree, best manager in the world for me. However he doesn't put the ball in the net or save it does he? He picks the team and prepares them it is still down to the players isnt it xD

same team - different manager: one wins record amount of titles, the others win nothing

SAF definitely deserved to get paid more than a single player

Dingodile

4135 Posts

September 22 2015 13:25 GMT

#2356

Well Ralf Rangnick had this condition too, that he earned more than any player during his Hoffenheim time.

Rebs

Pakistan10726 Posts

September 22 2015 13:28 GMT

#2357

It doesnt matter who does what, its about value to the team. And clearly its turned out, he was by far the most valuable asset to that club. For better or for worse.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 22 2015 13:31 GMT

#2358

He was the best manager in the world, i agree but no manager is worth more than a player. I dont think players are worth £250,000 a week but if they are on that money its because they are extremely valuable. If Messi goes into "x" team he scores goals and wins them matches yes? If Fergie goes into "x" team does he win them games to the same extent? I don't think so.
He proved this when he first joined Yanited and it took him a while to get his philosophy across, it does to all managers imo. It takes time to implement your footprint onto the team.

Messi doesn't need that, he just needs the ball at his feet per se.

Rebs

Pakistan10726 Posts

September 22 2015 13:36 GMT

#2359

On September 22 2015 22:31 Pandemona wrote:
He was the best manager in the world, i agree but no manager is worth more than a player. I dont think players are worth £250,000 a week but if they are on that money its because they are extremely valuable. If Messi goes into "x" team he scores goals and wins them matches yes? If Fergie goes into "x" team does he win them games? I don't think so.

I think your having a hard time understanding the point. It doesnt matter what Fergie would do in any other team, he didnt get paid that much by "any other team" he was paid that by much to United because he made United what it was. Plenty of players came and went during United's success the only consistent factor was Fergie. So he was clearly Uniteds most valuable asset.

No one is saying that if SAF went to Chelsea he should be the highest paid person there, because to Chelsea he wouldnt have the same value.

Your parameters as usual are all over the place. Sure managers in general are not worth more than players, because as you said they dont score goals or actually even play, they dont put their body's on the line .. etc etc etc.

I dont think you will find anyone here who doesnt appreciate that sort of logic. Thats footie 101. But I will repeat it again. Its not about who does what. Its about value to the club.

RvB

Netherlands6243 Posts

September 22 2015 15:05 GMT

#2360

Fergie is a huge asset but more than players like Giggs and Scholes? I don't think so. Sure he's had huge success but he's had some crazy good teams to work with as well (and some lesser ones which he gave over to Moyes).

Plenty of players came and went during United's success the only consistent factor was Fergie. So he was clearly Uniteds most valuable asset.

Staying so long at a club and being succesful is really impressive but of course he'll stay longer than players since except for a few players their careers simply aren't that long. If Messi could've played till he was 80 I'm sure he'd stay at Barca as well.