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On June 17 2015 12:21 Jerubaal wrote: I really am not sure how we can compare Lebron to Jordan. I think it's not unreasonable to say that Lebron has had larger impacts on his teams, but Jordan also played with really, really good teams. Jordan also played in an era where it was possible for a perimeter player to be unstoppable offensively like that. It's quite simple with regards to finals appearances. Jordan was in the stronger conference most of his years, Lebron had been in the worse conference every year of his career. When comparing, Lebron is essentially 2-1 in finals he would have made from the west. Some people give Lebron props for making the finals, others hold the losses against him. Or you could pretend Jordan was in the west and went 0-2 against Detroit in those finals, then he would be 6-2.
It's just the shitty modern east that confuses people.
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Cavs look deflated, I think its over.
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Being down 15 with less than 5 to play wasn't an indication?
EDIT: Thought that was a foul on Dellavedova if anything.
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On June 17 2015 12:33 ElMeanYo wrote: Cavs look deflated, I think its over. Bold prediction
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damn didn't even realize big d*ck dray had a triple double this game lol
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cavs looking totally gassed now
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On the bright side, Cleveland still has Johnny Football this season.
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Del gets Klay out of the game, not that it matters
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On June 17 2015 12:27 AgentW wrote: Series was encapsulated there by a three from GS and then LeBron driving to the rim, passing to an open corner 3, only to have the guy miss.
Series is encapsulated there by Cavs still doing their stupid trapping defense on Curry. Okay it worked well the first few gamew but GSW has adjusted. It's just a plethora of open jump shots because whenever they want curry can take 2 defenders to half court and turn it into a 4v3 then just find the open guy...
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On June 17 2015 12:32 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:30 Scarecrow wrote:On June 17 2015 12:29 blobrus wrote: officials working hard for the cavs they're just bad both ways, warriors have got a ton of calls their way this series Absolutely, just look at how they've officiated when LeBron has the ball. Allowed tons of contact from both sides. Bang. Not really considering that 6th Klay foul has been there to call on Lebron hundreds of times this series.
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On June 17 2015 12:37 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:27 AgentW wrote: Series was encapsulated there by a three from GS and then LeBron driving to the rim, passing to an open corner 3, only to have the guy miss. Series is encapsulated there by Cavs still doing their stupid trapping defense on Curry. Okay it worked well the first few gamew but GSW has adjusted. It's just a plethora of open jump shots because whenever they want curry can take 2 defenders to half court and turn it into a 4v3 then just find the open guy... Well they didn't hedge hard and get burned as badly on the PnR in Game 5 because Mozgov didn't play. Thompson did fine with it. Came down to GS shotmaking.
On June 17 2015 12:37 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:32 AgentW wrote:On June 17 2015 12:30 Scarecrow wrote:On June 17 2015 12:29 blobrus wrote: officials working hard for the cavs they're just bad both ways, warriors have got a ton of calls their way this series Absolutely, just look at how they've officiated when LeBron has the ball. Allowed tons of contact from both sides. Bang. Not really considering that 6th Klay foul has been there to call on Lebron hundreds of times this series. Again, I thought it was a no call or a foul on Dellavedova if anything.
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On June 17 2015 12:37 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:27 AgentW wrote: Series was encapsulated there by a three from GS and then LeBron driving to the rim, passing to an open corner 3, only to have the guy miss. Series is encapsulated there by Cavs still doing their stupid trapping defense on Curry. Okay it worked well the first few gamew but GSW has adjusted. It's just a plethora of open jump shots because whenever they want curry can take 2 defenders to half court and turn it into a 4v3 then just find the open guy... I mean it's not like they weren't getting those shots the first two games, it's just that Dray/Iggy/Klay weren't making them.
neither was steph for that matter, but he's hot enough this game that if you have the big man drop back or some shit it's just Steph 3s all day.
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Cavs should be HAMMERING Iggy.
EDIT: Huge for the Cavs to have Barnes on LeBron.
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On June 17 2015 12:38 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:37 BlackJack wrote:On June 17 2015 12:27 AgentW wrote: Series was encapsulated there by a three from GS and then LeBron driving to the rim, passing to an open corner 3, only to have the guy miss. Series is encapsulated there by Cavs still doing their stupid trapping defense on Curry. Okay it worked well the first few gamew but GSW has adjusted. It's just a plethora of open jump shots because whenever they want curry can take 2 defenders to half court and turn it into a 4v3 then just find the open guy... Well they didn't hedge hard and get burned as badly on the PnR in Game 5 because Mozgov didn't play. Thompson did fine with it. Came down to GS shotmaking. Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:37 cLutZ wrote:On June 17 2015 12:32 AgentW wrote:On June 17 2015 12:30 Scarecrow wrote:On June 17 2015 12:29 blobrus wrote: officials working hard for the cavs they're just bad both ways, warriors have got a ton of calls their way this series Absolutely, just look at how they've officiated when LeBron has the ball. Allowed tons of contact from both sides. Bang. Not really considering that 6th Klay foul has been there to call on Lebron hundreds of times this series. Again, I thought it was a no call or a foul on Dellavedova if anything.
Probably, but the point is that if you are consistently establishing post position illegally all foul calls in your favor are already gifts
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if you wanna talk about encapsulating series the jr smith postup travel and Delly bobble-turnover are pretty good plays for that
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LeBron with a mix of exhaustion and exasperation looking at Curry blow by there.
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On June 17 2015 12:44 AgentW wrote: LeBron with a mix of exhaustion and exasperation looking at Curry blow by there. mostly exhaustion, I mean I thought he coulda tried to get in and contest or something
those missed 3s have gotta hurt for the cavs
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Ah, the kingdom continues to await Cleveland. I hope Lebron ends that drought eventually.
As a Sixers fan, best part of these Finals will be watching Iggy hoist that trophy up.
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Any odds of Lebron staying with the Cavs next year?
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